Originally posted by Overkill:Originally posted by haggard:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by Overkill:Originally posted by krizay:
When you sign Free agents you don't base the contract on what other teams are paying players. You don't base it on what so & so got last year. If that was the case Clements and Jennings wouldn't be 9ers. They had to pay them what they are worth or what they think he's worth.
Does Scotty Mc think he's a a #10 pick?
Q: Talk about Crabtree, was there any way you imagined him falling to you? How quickly was that decision made?
“I thought a little bit about it, because of the fact that he did not work out at the combine. He had the foot surgery. I thought that would be the only reason that he would make it to us, in this year’s crop of players up there. But, I really didn’t think it would happen. That’s a long way for a guy like that to fall. ”
Q: Where was he on your board?
“He was high. I don’t want to get into specifics, but he was definitely one of the higher guys.”
Apparently Scotty thought Crabtree was higher than a 10th pick. So why not pay him higher than the #10 pick. Scotty thought he was the best WR in the draft (one can only assume.) So pay him as the best WR in the draft.
You guys we're cool with Clements getting paid more than he's worth. Even though his play up to that point NEVER suggested he be the highest paid defensive player ever. You guys were cool with Jennings getting his contract.
If you thought he was the best WR in the draft, one of the top players in the draft, don't be afraid to pay him as such. JUST LIKE FREE AGENCY.
Because the draft is slotted and you know what Free Agents can do in the pro's. With rookies, you just have some college tape and a vague hope he can perform in the NFL. Its no where near the same thing.
And I don't see DHB's agent rushing to give back the money he got for number 7 even though he was a reach that shouldn't have gone any where near that early. Crabtree's agent also represents the guy the Chiefs reached for at #3. I bet he's not making the value argument with them.
Re: the poll - I feel like saying "pay him" because its not my money, but I would definitely sit him if I was a GM.
the draft is not slotted. Which is why we are having this discussion. As for your Free agency comment. Did Clement show before we signed him he was the best defensive player in the league? No so why pay him to be? Did Jennings show he was fragile in Buffalo? Yes! So why pay him thinking he wouldn't be here?
LOL They are reaches in OUR OPINION. Their employers selected them because they thought they were the best at their respective positions. Thus they will/have paid them as such. So no need to make that value argument. Crab's employer thought he was a top player. thus, he should be paid as such.
Besides a QB, has any player received a contract substantially above their slot? Unlike the NBA draft, the NFL draft isn't by rule slotted, but it practice it has always been slotted. A WR asking to get paid up to 5 spots higher than he was drafted is new territory. Even with the QBs, I don't think anyone has made the kind of contract jump that Crabs is asking for.
Brady Quinn was projected higher than he went. His agent thought he deserved more money than where he was drafted. We know how that worked out.
Exactly. Where you are drafted is the most important factor in determining your contract. To argue otherwise is a waste of time.
I agree, paying him above his draft position sets a terrible precedent. We will never get another first round pick in camp on time without overpaying them. Even 2nd or 3rd rounders could start using the argument that they were "steals" and should get more money. He should about 37mil with about 18mil gua. , split Orakpo and DHB. It would be insane to overpay.