Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by MrOrange:Originally posted by Marvin49:Originally posted by MrOrange:
Wow...you're very accepting.
A lot of those things you pay city taxes for though probably fall more under "public obligations" whereas a football stadium really doesn't. The NFL is a lucrative business, I feel that if the owners don't have enough to pay for a stadium than they should have to ask for private donations.
Well....if thats how you feel about it you have every right to vote "no" (assuming you live in SC).
If more people feel that way than the other then the stadium won't pass.
Its really quite simple. Its put up for public vote to see if the majority of the City wants it. Even if they have zero reason for their vote other than a shorter trip to 49ers game, its a democracy and the majority wins. EVERYONE has an equal right to a vote, regardless of their reasoning.
If those who vote no get to say "but wait, I voted no" and kill the project, then your essentially taking away the rights of those who voted "yes", and thats equally unfair.
I'm sure there are ALOT of people who didn't vote for Obama BECAUSE he was black (not saying all of them...I'm just making a point). That disgusts me, but it is still their RIGHT to vote the way they want.
Bottom line...its a democracy. Deal with it.
I live in Denver and we went through this about 10 years ago w/ mile high. Now I like the game of football and back then I was ok w/ it. It is more a principle thing now. The majority does win and the minority gets the shaft....such is democracy and yes....I feel its unfair whether I benefit from a decision or not.
....And please don't tell me to get out because it isn't better anywhere else....I'm just stating that democracy doesn't really work because everyone at some point will get the shaft....more likely than not on many occasions. I guess I'm just not as accepting as you guys are.
On a side note, I started a thread in the parking lot regarding this issue and they merged it into this one.
I feel you homie that's just life. Out here in DC the owner of the Skins and Wizards fully paid for there own stadiums. But most of the cities residents were strongly against using taxpayers money for the Nationals. Mainly b/c most of the folks going to the game don't even live in DC and it appeared to be getting built for rich folks out int eh burbs instead of the little man in the city. and that's exactly what it has turned into. Folks in DC could give a rat's ass about baseball but the powers that be forced it on the city. they promised all these jobs, malls, and condo's in the area. And of the day the Nationals staduim was a big waste of taxpayers money. We schools with no fire alarms and no books but the city can pop up with millions for a baseball team? All that promised development around the stadium will never happen and was just a pipe dream. so now we stuck with a lame team and overpriced stadium. So it's really hard for anybody to say how it effects Santa Clara unless you live ther eand know things like this. I was against the Nats staduim from day one.