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Arguments for Alex Smith and Shaun Hill to Start

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by maximill15:
I could understand a Nate davis over hill and smith argument, as idiotic as it sounds because he possess all the tools, except experience, but smith over hill is sorry! He had ONE good game in seattle and thats it!

How can you say such a thing??? It was a good quarter in one game.

you are right!! im sorry

Smith has had a few games with a rating over 100, so obviously you are just talking out of your ass. Statements like this, which you think are cute, just show you for what you are. You have to bring more to the table than inaccurate rhetoric if you want grown men to take you seriously.


I'm sorry but there are just as many people calling for smith who are talking out of the a**es. And everyonce and a while I get caught up with the crowd. I am such a loser
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by maximill15:
I could understand a Nate davis over hill and smith argument, as idiotic as it sounds because he possess all the tools, except experience, but smith over hill is sorry! He had ONE good game in seattle and thats it!

How can you say such a thing??? It was a good quarter in one game.

you are right!! im sorry

Smith has had a few games with a rating over 100, so obviously you are just talking out of your ass. Statements like this, which you think are cute, just show you for what you are. You have to bring more to the table than inaccurate rhetoric if you want grown men to take you seriously.


I'm sorry but there are just as many people calling for smith who are talking out of the a**es. And everyonce and a while I get caught up with the crowd. I am such a loser

yeah didn't you know its cool to want someone with sub 70 passer rating to take you to the promise land!
Lets trade Hill & Smith for J. Russell.. He looks like a keeper! Just Joking.

Actually, I think any QB is going to suck in this offense. Until the OLine problems are handled we are doomed on offense.
http://www.viddler.com/explore/J77vids/videos/5/

Heres a link of Smith his sophmore season under Norv Turner. Keep in mind the players he has around him this year. Derrell "Bricks for hands" Jackson was his #1 receiver, Arnaz Battle is his number 2 receiver. Mike Nolan got rid of Eric Johnson, the TE who caught 82 passes two years before and started Vernon Davis who was the root cause of at least two or three interceptions and even more fumbles. At right tackle we had Kwame Harris and Jim Hostler was still the quarterbacks coach . Even with the lack of talent he still managed to win 7 games and teams couldn't stick 8 in the box for Gore because of Smiths mobility. I know all you stat whores will try and say that he's an inaccurate passer but as I said before he consistently puts the ball at the face of his receivers and it's their job to put two hands up and catch it. Because of our lack of receiver talent in the past we had a lot of dropped passes/passes that were tipped and intercepted because they were incapable of catching with their hands. Now that we have better talent it would be nice to see how he's improved on our team rather than a rivals.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
What is really funny is how people are making excuses for Hills poor performance that they called alexcuses when applied to Smith. If you are going to criticize one for something, it should also apply to the other, right? I expected more from Hill, I was very happy with the way he played last year other than the St. Louis game @ St. Louis. Now he seems to have regressed, no pocket presence, poor accuracy, under throwing dump offs...etc. Then these people have the nerve to criticize anyone that has enough depth of thought to realize that the teams Smith played on weren't nearly as good as the one Hill has been sucking it up on. Then we get the certified "football geniuses" that want to use Flacco/Ryan/Sanchez as a measuring stick, like the 2005 Niners roster had anywhere near the talent as either the Ravens/Falcons or the Jets. It is this kind of ignorance that makes these peoples arguments not only invalid, but laughable.

THANK YOU!!!
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[ Edited by dirtysouthniner on Oct 14, 2009 at 14:34:16 ]
Question: Is Hill being “a little sore” similar to his arm needing some rest last training camp? Or am I reading too much into this situation and he really did need a break?

My response: There's no QB controversy in Singletary's mind. Shaun Hill is the starter. If there were any doubt, he would have found some play time for Smith in the blowout loss to the Falcons.

There were few complaints about Hill's play in the first four games
. If Singletary is ready to make changes based on the Falcons game, probably Shawntae Spencer and Patrick Willis would be the only players to remain as starters.

Yet we still can't let this subject go.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by valrod33:

Smith has a gun.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by valrod33:

Smith has a gun.

So does Russell.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by valrod33:

Smith has a gun.

So does Russell.

He could be better than Hill also.
Watching this video just makes me feel even more like we need Smith in at QB. The kid had all you Na Sayers on his Nuts in 06 and he had less talent around him then. I like that he has an arm and can scramble well. With this O-Line, we need a QB that rolls out left or right to give us a second or two more! THINK ABOUT IT. Make things happen.

The kid has a good arm and it's sitting on the bench going to waste! Hill cannot make half the throws Alex makes in that video nor can Hill make half those plays.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by valrod33:

Smith has a gun.

And wheels. Hills ugly wide leg squat stance probably puts him at 5'9" or lower in the pocket, combined with his side arm release = lots of tipped balls this season. It's no wonder why he always gets swallowed up by collapsing pockets.

[ Edited by Mospeed on Oct 14, 2009 at 14:51:02 ]
Nope, no Alex starter epiphanies for Coach Sing.

Again, Hill has made plays even when the duck come flying out. He's been able to engineer drives and make plays. Sure, not every time, but enough to place us in a situation to win.

WTF is wrong with that Alex supporters??? Our QB is Shaun Hill!

Get over it.

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Alex stayed to help Crabtree acclimate to the offense quickly. He's just a high character guy whose selflessness punctuates what it is to be a teammate. Seriously, cool!

I really had hoped Hill would stay, but I am sure that dude needs a break. Hey, some do and some don't. I just like the fact that Alex took initiative and stayed.

MD's great post says it succinctly. Good job

Based on the few media snippets it looks like this is still Hill's team so lets move on...um k?

Smith's athleticism and arm + Hill's craftiness and poise = halfway decent starting QB