Originally posted by Bejaard49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Bejaard49er:
The lack of respect being shown to older 49er fans especially long term season ticket holders who bought season tickets before 1981 is appalling . Just because I don’t scream my F**king head off on every defensive play some how I am not a Niner fan? Where the hell were you when we were only getting 35-40,000 fans a game until half way through the 1981 season when everyone became a 49er fan?
My family hasn’t gotten rid of our season tickets just because the product on the field since 2003 has been pure sh*t (even worse then the 70’s), however lot people have and attendance is down. Yes games “officially sell out” but the reality is that instead of 62-65,000+ fans it is more around 55,000 fans or less maybe this is why noise is down? I was at a game a few years back that had only 40-45,000 fans attend.
During the glory years Candlestick rocked with noise especially when playing the Cowboys, Rams. Ditka’s Bears, Parcells Giants and the playoffs. We taunted Ditka on Monday night to the point he threw gum at a fan (who of course pressed charges) and yelled so loud Jim Everett, QB of the Rams came unglued during the NFC Championship game. My dad told me stories about Kezar and a riot they had on the field (turned over a police van) after a Bear game. Those fans that started that riot are still coming to games to this day. Are you that rabid of a fan well some of our old timers are?
You don’t think us depend wearing, white wine sipping, f*cked up old farts can yell? Oh we can yell, we know the importance and have seen how the yelling has helped (examples above), however this team for the most part has not been worthy of our yelling because it has not made a difference. It has not had an emotional impact, stopped a drive, created a penalty or turnover. Sorry goes both ways if I am going to yell until my throat is red and I am spitting blood (which I did through out the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s) then you as a team sure as hell better perform.
Earlier someone complained about fans leaving early. When my 85 year old dad attends games we do leave early because we have had too many incidents where he has almost been knocked down, so before you condemn someone about leaving early you may want to consider why. If your 85 and still able to attend 49er games applaud the guy instead of putting him down. Plus that 85 year old man was sent off to war when he was 18 and lived in a fox hole so that our youth of today could attend college games, get drunk off there a** then go back to there dorm or apartment and f*ck there girlfriends.
Youth is a wonderful thing enjoy it while you have it because some day your going to have a drunk 20+ kid tell you that you’re a stupid fu*ked up old man (been said to me twice at 49er games while protecting my father) and at that moment you will be glad that old man of 48 who is ex-military, 6’2, 225 with 5% body fat has the wisdom to control his temper and not beat the sh*t out of you.
so instead of getting into the game and rooting for your team you come on an internet forum and put on a tough guy act? Why not save that energy for the game. You can start by getting out of the chair and stop complaining about these so called young fans who are enthusiastic about their team like you USED to be to sit down because they might spill your wine and make you drop your cheese.
Sir, if you have read the entire thread there was several posts that are personal attacks and offensive with respect to older individuals specifically the post by BigBug415 to BrodieFan. To Mr. BigBug415 credit he did publically apologize. When someone calls a 52 year old grandpa yes I will assume the person saying that is young. I guess those of us who are older are suppose to accept these attacks? My next question is would you? Why are you personally attacking me and making the assumptions that you are?
You are assuming I don’t root for my team. In reality by the end of a game I tend to have a very sore throat and knees (two ACL’s and titanium rod with 6 pins can’t stand like I use to) from getting up out of my chair sitting down, standing back up, going to the bathroom to deal with the beer unless I have had cheese.
I will assume you are talking about my patience and sound judgment when referring to how becoming older has helped me manage when a 20+ year old drunk verbally abuses me and could cause bodily harm to my 85 year old father if I let him pass me on the escalator? If that is a tough guy act so be it.
Go ahead and yell, scream on every play just show respect to those around you. They paid for a ticket to some have brought children and don’t want there child hearing f**k every 30 seconds its all about finding a compromise. Within our section we have around 10 rows that have been together for a long time at the beginning of the season people move around so the guys who want to stand and yell every play can. The guy behind me lets everyone know he is a yeller and will probably spill one beer (generally he buys me one beer since he knows he will spill one on me) he communicated I can deal with that. He gets us going sometimes when we are down and frustrated. It can all works if you want it to.
I don’t know how old you are but youth is a wonderful thing and should be enjoyed. When your young you recover from your hangovers faster, can party longer, generally (trying not to assume) do not have the emotional burdens and scars us old people have, your body is not physically messed up as much, and have a youthful exuberance and zest for life. It is a great time in one’s life enjoy it.
Bejaard49er, way to go! I deeply respect and applaud these posts.
Respect is at the center of most attacks by other people especially in the Zone. People in general especially the younger generations do not hold respect in high regard anymore. Instead, I see the poster child to this problem being "entitlement". I see more and more of this including my wife's second grade class. It is not just the adults, but their children sadly enough.
Respect can soothe so many rough edges, but people just don't do it. The "BOO" thing is another very volitale subject. Some believe they have a right to do it against their very own team and coaches. However, I don't believe it is right. You can simply be positive to your team like "Shake it off!" "You can do better!" or even "Pull the head out!" Some don't and yells boos to express their dissatisfaction. But to come in and yell obscenities in front of kids and family who want to enjoy the game, is rude pure and simple. We all have a right to enjoy the game!
Heck, I remember scaring a poor kid by scream cheering, who was at his first 49er game, this preseason because Michele and I were happy to have our new box seats. I deeply apologized to him directly. I explained I have deep lungs and voice does travel quite a bit on me especially when we make plays on D. I went out and bought the kid a hot dog and shared some insight to the game because the parents didn't call security...lol.
Seriously though, the onus was on me because I caused a new, fellow fledgling fan to possibly be scared to come back. Heck no! I would never allow that to happen. We need as many new recruits as possible!
Thanks again for your post and I agree wholeheartedly!!!!