Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
I think Battle has been better than you give him credit for though (the NFL consensus is that Battle has been one of, if not, the best blocking WRs in the game). He has done all the little things and done them quite well....also has been a clutch player with a great attitude.
And I think you give him more credit than he deserves, which is nothing new around this forum. He is NOT one of the best blocking WRs in the league and he most definitely is NOT the best blocking WR in the league. He's a good blocker, but you're going way overboard. He's the best blocking WR on THIS team. That's it. Anyone who thinks Battle is one of the best at anything needs to take a look around the league.
He plays with a lot of heart and many people like to say he's a "gamer," whatever that means, but don't fool yourself into thinking Battle is more valuable than he really is. He doesn't create seperation, he's not explosive (having a handful of explosive plays over the course of six seasons is not enough), he doesn't have great speed and he simply is not a playmaker. Everyone says he's "clutch," people need to get real. How many clutch plays has he really made? The only year he came up big on 3rd downs was 06 when Antonio Bryant was here commanding double teams, but people like to act like he's always come up big on 3rd downs, which is a load of crap and everyone knows it. Battle needs that #1 receiver to take attention away from him in order to make plays. Everyone also tries to say he has great hands, but in 07 he was competing with Darrell Jackson for the most drops on the team.
Battle is a mediocre player that plays with a lot of heart, but heart does not give you the skills required to be good at WR. He gets a lot of love on this forum, but lets get real for a moment, shall we? If Arnaz Battle was on a different team (one that you happened to know about, but was not your team) you wouldn't be giving him the type of credit you are. We all know this. He simply hasn't done anything to deserve the praise he receives. He's a 49er, so 49er fans will try as hard as they can to find a reason to praise him.
The fact of the matter is if he was really any good, he wouldn't be competing for the 5TH WR slot.
You seem to be missing my main point which is.....Battle is now past his prime and therefore can't be counted upon to stay healthy.....and I still think you are being too hard on him.
You are correct in saying that Battle's skills have never been first rate...I agree. He did have an off year in '07 so that is also a point you made that is correct. He played QB in college and therefore had to learn the position in the pros. He also lacks speed and quickness. However, overall, he has had very dependable hands and is extremely tough. Incidentally, my definition of a "gamer" is someone that plays hurt, doesn't complain, makes clutch plays, and plays all out even if his team is down by 40 points. Arnaz qualifies on all counts.
I've heard national
commentators say that Battle has been one of the best blocking WRs in the game. I've been living up here in Seattle the past several years and have heard Seahawk
coaches talk about his blocking and the little things that he does that show up on film that they wish their young receivers did.
I don't base my points on what zoners say and often disagree with the points being made in the Zone. I'm disagreeing with you right now! I've actually been one of the more outspoken critics of this team over the years....when I believe the criticism was justified...
Final point....I think if Arnaz Battle gets cut in TC, he will get a lot of interest around the league because he is such an intelligent team player....unless of course, it is really obvious that he simply can't play any more....which very well may be the case.