Which QB Would You Want to Lead This Team?

Hill should be the starter and if for some reason he fails we can always put Alex in there.

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Normally, I'd say I'm in utter disbelief that Alex Smith is winning this poll after not playing for a year and a half and playing terrible in the time he saw on the field prior. Then again it's the webzone, home of blind faith to a first pick bust. The proof is in the pudding (pudding being the numbers, td/int, w/l, etc.) and all signs point towards Hill. I guess Smith fans heard all they needed when it was reported that his passes in non-padded, no contact PRACTICES have "zip" and "tight spirals". Because lord knows all it takes to succeed in he NFL are passes with zip and tight spirals

Amen brother. It just baffles me how many on this board just cant accept that Smith is a bust. Forget us fellow zoners; the entire FOOTBALL PLANET has labeled him a bust..........yet somehow, people find ways to defend him. I guess when you lose enough, it becomes acceptable to root for losing ways........

How far we've fallen as a franchise............

Oh interesting. So you know better than Singletary? The coach is giving him a chance. That seems fair to me.

ZFR80: "Forget us fellow zoners; the entire FOOTBALL PLANET has labeled him a bust..........yet somehow, people find ways to defend him."

OK, this is just not true. I, for one, have seen articles by Barrows, Miacco and even the caustic Lowell Cohen on the many reasons why Smith should NOT be considered a bust yet. John Clayton has written at ESPN that Smith shouldn't be considered a bust yet. You need to get out and read more. The "haters" around here have given you a completely unrealistic perception of how sports people around the league feel about this guy, how he's been handled and his potential.

Originally posted by BrodieFan:
ZFR80: "Forget us fellow zoners; the entire FOOTBALL PLANET has labeled him a bust..........yet somehow, people find ways to defend him."

OK, this is just not true. I, for one, have seen articles by Barrows, Miacco and even the caustic Lowell Cohen on the many reasons why Smith should NOT be considered a bust yet. John Clayton has written at ESPN that Smith shouldn't be considered a bust yet. You need to get out and read more. The "haters" around here have given you a completely unrealistic perception of how sports people around the league feel about this guy, how he's been handled and his potential.

WELL SAID!

Don't mind ZRF, the only time he posts is to bash on Alex Smith.

From Maiocco -

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What I remember most about Smith's first three games of '07 - and last three healthy games - was how little help he received from his teammates. In games against the Cardinals and Rams, wideout Darrell Jackson dropped beautifully thrown deep passes. Against the Steelers, Taylor Jacobs ran the wrong route, resulting in a Bryant McFadden 50-yard interception return for a touchdown in the fourth quarter. The 49ers' supporting cast now is much better than it has been at any point since Smith came to the team in 2005.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/06/progress-report-with-six-weeks-until-49ers-open-camp.html

Originally posted by oldman9er:
From Maiocco -

Quote:
What I remember most about Smith's first three games of '07 - and last three healthy games - was how little help he received from his teammates. In games against the Cardinals and Rams, wideout Darrell Jackson dropped beautifully thrown deep passes. Against the Steelers, Taylor Jacobs ran the wrong route, resulting in a Bryant McFadden 50-yard interception return for a touchdown in the fourth quarter. The 49ers' supporting cast now is much better than it has been at any point since Smith came to the team in 2005.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/06/progress-report-with-six-weeks-until-49ers-open-camp.html

Good article. Very encouraging. And, what Maiocco calls "facts" others around here call "excuses."

Originally posted by oldman9er:
From Maiocco -

Quote:
What I remember most about Smith's first three games of '07 - and last three healthy games - was how little help he received from his teammates. In games against the Cardinals and Rams, wideout Darrell Jackson dropped beautifully thrown deep passes. Against the Steelers, Taylor Jacobs ran the wrong route, resulting in a Bryant McFadden 50-yard interception return for a touchdown in the fourth quarter. The 49ers' supporting cast now is much better than it has been at any point since Smith came to the team in 2005.

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/06/progress-report-with-six-weeks-until-49ers-open-camp.html

here's a little something i put together:

The 2006 Alex Smith would be better in 2009

Several weeks ago the 49ers selected a quarterback in the draft for the first time since 2005. Does this mean anything to Alex Smith and Shaun Hill? Absolutely not. As new Head Leader Mike Singletary takes over 49erland, he has received support from executives Scott McCloughan and Paraag Marathe who have added talent to the roster each year while clearing cap room.

The 49ers ended the 2008 season at 7-9 and walked away sharing something in common with the Super Bowl Champions, they won their final game. Yet this was the same case in 2006 when then second year quarterback Alex Smith became the first player in 49er history to take every offensive snap. Every 49er faithful knows what happened from then, Smith injured his shoulder 4 games into the next season and has never stepped on the field for a regular season game since.

Many changes has been made around Smith since then, but would he have to produce any more than he did in 2006 to be successful in the future? I don't believe so.

Thinking all the way back to 2006, the personnel on the team was down right awful. Vernon Davis became the teams first pick of the off season draft, but has become a premier blocking tight-end in the league rather than a Antonio Gates on steroids like play-maker. In fact, in 2006 Eric Johnson had more receptions (34) than Davis (20). Also the Wide Receiver position had Antonio Bryant, Brian Gilmore, and Arnaz Battle as the top 3 on the depth chart, along with fan favorite Taylor Jacobs who played in 8 games.

While Frank Gore had his best season as a Pro, leading the team in receptions and setting a franchise rushing mark, Smith had little talent around him. Singletary today has brought to the Niners a sense of physical football, a possible three running back rotation, and arguably the top two young wide receivers with limitless potential in Crabtree and Morgan. If Smith found a way to let the ground game carry the team, putting the ball in the hands of the wide-outs would increase his completion percentage from 58% and his QB rating from 74.8 which he ended 2006 with.


Smith also was taught by Norv Turner in 2006. Teaching was not a word I saw frequently during the Nolan years. In fact, during my trips to training camp in Santa Clara the last two summers I remember seeing Nolan with short 1980's NBA length shorts on, yelling at the team the drills to run, but never stopping for a teaching or correction moment. With Singletary teaching is a mainstay. Fans forget that it was difficult for Smith to continue to adjust from the shot gun format in college under Urban Meyer, to the west coast passes that Mike McCarthy called, to the 5 to 7 step digit system that Turner ran. Smith was pleased to learn, new offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye will continue to run a modified digit system offense, and lucky for Smith, Singletary hired Mike Johnson to continue to teach and groom the quarterbacks on the roster.

Some Niner fans were perplexed when Alex Smith agreed to a restructured deal this March. As a student of the game I too could not understand why he did not want a fresh start in new scenery. Why not go home to San Diego, reunite with Turner, and wait patiently for a chance to succeed as a back up? I guess he realized with the talent, coaching, and system put in place in San Francisco in 2009, all he needs to do is wait patiently, and if Shaun Hill does not have continued success, then to play the same way Smith did in 2006, will make this year's 49er team a success.

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

I think we are way beyond the spoiled thing, and are crtical of losing several years in a row.

Believe me, I remember the bad QB play for the past few years. It's been excruciating. But, I really don't think fans get over having two Hall-of-Famers in a row and I think the fact that people still bring up Montana and Young is proof of that.

The bar has been set very high. I suppose you are right that we still have that measuring stick with the 49ers.

Originally posted by Method:
Don't mind ZRF, the only time he posts is to bash on Alex Smith.

-9fA

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

I think we are way beyond the spoiled thing, and are crtical of losing several years in a row.

Believe me, I remember the bad QB play for the past few years. It's been excruciating. But, I really don't think fans get over having two Hall-of-Famers in a row and I think the fact that people still bring up Montana and Young is proof of that.

The bar has been set very high. I suppose you are right that we still have that measuring stick with the 49ers.

It does make things more frustrating for fans, but we're actually lucky to have that tough measuring stick - the alternative would be much worse. I think fans need to keep perspective and not expect a QB will live up to that as much as hope for it. I think we will see another great Niner QB. It's only a matter of time.

We could have Tavarias Jackson running the show.......yikes

Originally posted by KknighthawkK_9er:
We could have Tavarias Jackson running the show.......yikes

Or Jamarcus Russell

Originally posted by PTulini:

Originally posted by KknighthawkK_9er:
We could have Tavarias Jackson running the show.......yikes

Or Jamarcus Russell

Or M. Vick; V. Young or dare I say it........ D. Anderson

I always say whoevere wins us games. I am rooting for smith and its kind of crazy how a greater percentage of the zone is rooting for him to. We all want him to succeed because he was supposed to be our savior. I dont think Hill will let Smith over take him but we'll see.