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*Projected* Niners Depth Chart (Updated 9/5/09)

Originally posted by BrianGO:
The only thing is, unfortunately, I don't see Sheets making the team. Because even if he leads the NFL preseason in rushing, obviously that is not good enough.
And I don't think he is a better blocker than Clayton.
His best chance might be as a return man; but that would be very tough for him to beat out Rossum.

You are looking at this in the old mentality. Nolan and Martz are now gone so the philosophy doesn't hold water now. If Clayton's skills were superior to Sheets I would imagine they would of passed on him. Having a true scat back adds a new dimension to the offense that we haven't had. I foresee Clayton being cut and Sheets making the final 53 as the #3 RB. If he proves to be a valuable return man then we can part ways with Rossum at the end of the year and use his roster spot for a more versatile player. I see Gore getting a moderate level of touches in the preseason but the majority going to Coffee and Sheets. Maybe Gore 25% Coffee 35% Sheets 30% and MRob and Norris splitting 10%. I expect Gore to get some good reps in but I know Sing will want to keep him fresh.

The bottom line is Nolan's boys wont be safe from getting cut or demoted this year. The best player for the position will play and I trust Sing's judgment when it comes to making the decisions.
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Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Isn't it funny that you make this assumption, when you haven't even addressed the Running Backs?

Do you really think that we'll keep so many on the roster? I don't.

Mark my words, there will be at least ONE gone before Battle's name reaches the cut list.

~Ceadder

I se 3 RB's: Gore, Coffee and Sheets, with 2 FB's: Norris and Robinson. Just watch what Rathman will do with Robinson at the FB position. Note that the club did not draft a FB or sign one yet in FA. Robinson will get a significant % of the snaps at FB. At least, that's my thinking.

Totally agree on all points, jb.

I hope you are right, but Keasey is under contract for one more season, correct?

I think it'll come down to Sheets and Keasey earning that last roster spot. Keasey and Robinson give the 49ers a more physical ST unit, compared to Sheets and Robinson.
Originally posted by 9erred:
Bear Pascoe and the new ILB can both LS. If this works out in camp and pre season, I say cut Jenning, he makes a million a year to LS.

That roster spot can be used for extra DL, keep Jean Pierre on the roster, and Balmer can rfotate in at NT.

Excellent point. While I am a fan of Jennings at LS and Rossum as our return man, I feel that a team cannot afford to have so many specialists, especially when it comes at the expense of offensive or defensive depth. If they could get guys that actually serve as depth on offense and defense to take over these special teams areas, the team would be better off.

If it were up to me, I'd give Sheets and several other players a long look at return man to see if they could take over for Rossum. Brandon Jones has some limited return experience and actually returned quite well when given the opportunity if I recall correctly. Plus it would help him earn some of that money he's being given if he gets buried on the WR depth chart. Jason Hill has good size and speed and might have return man ability if give the chance. Arnaz Battle is also a solid return man and could still contribute to this team as the last WR on the roster and as a returner.
Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Just curious jimbagg....what makes you so high on Bender?
Gore - Coffee - Sheets at RB

Norris - Robinson at FB

Robinson at Wildcat QB

Rossum or Sheets at KR.


Clayton, Zeigler, Battle in the unemployment line.
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Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
I'm shocked that nobody is scolding you for keeping Smith in the QB depth chart.

I don't think that Hill takes QB1 but it's early yet and Alex may still be nursing himself along.

But there have been many here that have gone out on the proverbial limb and stated that Alex will be gone if we get a QB in the draft.

Which we did.

Even so, Davis may not even make the 53 man roster. It would be good to keep him around but I don't see him staying on the PR, if that's how things shake out in Camp.

~Ceadder

If Davis shows he's ready to compete at the NFL level and earns a roster spot, I wouldn't doubt it all if Smith gets the ax. What you would likely have is Hill as the clear-cut starter and Huard as the clear-cut veteran backup who could come in and manage the game properly should something happen to Hill. He would also be key in mentoring both Hill and Davis.

However, if Davis is not close to being ready to take an NFL snap, he'll be hidden somehow, and the QB depth would be Hill, Smith and Huard.

What they likely won't do is go Hill, Smith and Davis....not nearly enough veteran savvy between those three.

I agree completely.

Damon Huard is not going anywhere.

You got to have a veteran QB on the roster.
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Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Guys, do you really think the Niners can hide RJF, Taylor, and/or Davis on the practice squad? These guys are talented players and risking running any of through waivers is nuts. If you want them, you gotta find a way to get them on the final 53 man roster. IMHO, that is.

Agree 100%

Especially Nate Davis.

No way he goes to the practice squad.
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Sheets is going to make the roster because he fills a need.

We've needed a speed back for a long time.
Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

Offense: 27 players

QB: Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Damon Huard

RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Thomas Clayton

FB: Morran Norris,

WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Dominque Ziegler

WR: Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Jason Hill

TE: Vernon Davis, Delaine Walker, Bear Pasco

LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone

LG: David Baas, Adam Snyder

C: Erick Heitman, Cody Wallace

RG: Chilo Rachel, Tonny Wragge

RT: Marvel Smith, Barry Sims

Defense: 24 players
3-4 Rotational

RE: Justin Smith, Demetric Evans

NT: Aubrayo Frankiln, Issac Soapaga

LE: Ray Mcdonald, Kentwan Balmer

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Paul Egbuh

MLB: Takeo Spikes, Scott Mckillup

MLB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks

ROLB: Parrys Haralson, Brandon Long (NEED UPGRADE, Maybe Taylor)

CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer?, Reggie Smith

FS: Dashon Goldson, Marcus Hudson

SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams

CB: Nate Clemetns, Tarrel Brown, Jahi Word-Daniels

Special Teams: 3 players

K: Joe Nedney

P: Andy Lee

KR: Allen Rossum

LS: Bear Pascoe (saves roster spot)

Sorry Brian Jennings good luck

Practice Squad: 8 players

QB Nate Davis
RB Kory Sheets
FB Zack Keasey
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jackob Bender
DT Rick Jean-Francois
S Curtis Taylor

Is this what you want or do you actually see this playing out?
1.Thomas Clayton in favor of M-Rob isnt going to happen.
2. Nate Davis would not make it to the PS, he would be claimed in a minute.
3. Zac Keasey isnt PS eligible
4. You cant just replace one of if not the best LS in the NFL for a guy who never did it in college.
5 I dont believe an undrafted Barry Sims clone (has problems with speed rushers) and character issues isnt going to the PS.
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And I don't think he is a better blocker than Clayton.


Jed York is a better blocker than Clayton, who is a TERRIBLE blocker.
Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

Offense: 27 players

QB: Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Damon Huard

RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Kory Sheets

FB: Morran Norris, MRob moves to FB to keep his spot

WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan

WR: Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Jason Hill

TE: Vernon Davis, Delaine Walker, Bear Pasco

LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone

LG: David Baas, Adam Snyder

C: Erick Heitman, Cody Wallace

RG: Chilo Rachel, Tonny Wragge

RT: Marvel Smith, Barry Sims

Defense: 24 players
3-4 Rotational

RE: Justin Smith, Demetric Evans

NT: Aubrayo Frankiln, Issac Soapaga, Ricky Jean steal

LE: Ray Mcdonald, Kentwan Balmer

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Marques Harris provides some extra pass rush

MLB: Takeo Spikes, Scott Mckillup

MLB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks

ROLB: Parrys Haralson, Brandon Long ??

CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer?, Reggie Smith

FS: Dashon Goldson, Marcus Hudson

SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams

CB: Nate Clemetns, Tarrel Brown

Special Teams: 3 players

K: Joe Nedney

P: Andy Lee

KR: Allen Rossum

LS: Jennings


Practice Squad: 8 players

QB Nate Davis
FB Zack Keasey
WR Zeigler
LB Mark Washington
OT Jackob Bender
S Curtis Taylor
Cb Word
sheets will maybe beat out clayton
Alex Smith

get real
Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

Offense: 26 players

QB: Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Nate Davis

RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Michael Robinson

FB: Morran Norris,

WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan

WR: Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Jason Hill

TE: Vernon Davis, Delaine Walker, Bear Pasco

LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone

LG: David Baas, Adam Snyder

C: Erick Heitman, Cody Wallace

RG: Chilo Rachel, Tonny Wragge

RT: Marvel Smith, Barry Sims

Defense: 25 players
3-4 Rotational

RE: Justin Smith, Demetric Evans

NT: Aubrayo Frankiln, Issac Soapaga, Rick Jean-Francois

LE: Ray Mcdonald, Kentwan Balmer

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Paul Egbuh

MLB: Takeo Spikes, Scott Mckillup

MLB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks

ROLB: Parrys Haralson, Brandon Long (NEED UPGRADE, Maybe Taylor)

CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer?, Reggie Smith

FS: Dashon Goldson, Marcus Hudson

SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams

CB: Nate Clemetns, Tarrel Brown, Jahi Word-Daniels

Special Teams: 3 players

K: Joe Nedney

P: Andy Lee

KR: Allen Rossum

LS: Bear Pascoe (saves roster spot)


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Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

Offense: 27 players

QB: Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Damon Huard

RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Thomas Clayton

FB: Morran Norris,

WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Dominque Ziegler

WR: Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Jason Hill

TE: Vernon Davis, Delaine Walker, Bear Pasco

LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone

LG: David Baas, Adam Snyder

C: Erick Heitman, Cody Wallace

RG: Chilo Rachel, Tonny Wragge

RT: Marvel Smith, Barry Sims

Defense: 24 players
3-4 Rotational

RE: Justin Smith, Demetric Evans

NT: Aubrayo Frankiln, Issac Soapaga

LE: Ray Mcdonald, Kentwan Balmer

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Paul Egbuh

MLB: Takeo Spikes, Scott Mckillup

MLB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks

ROLB: Parrys Haralson, Brandon Long (NEED UPGRADE, Maybe Taylor)

CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer?, Reggie Smith

FS: Dashon Goldson, Marcus Hudson

SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams

CB: Nate Clemetns, Tarrel Brown, Jahi Word-Daniels

Special Teams: 3 players

K: Joe Nedney

P: Andy Lee

KR: Allen Rossum

LS: Bear Pascoe (saves roster spot)

Sorry Brian Jennings good luck

Practice Squad: 8 players

QB Nate Davis
RB Kory Sheets
FB Zack Keasey
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jackob Bender
DT Rick Jean-Francois
S Curtis Taylor


MY THOUGHTS:
1 No way in hell Alex starts over Shaun
2 Sheets beats T. Clayton
3 Jean-Francois makes 53
4 I predict we sign a couple remaining veteran FA's....likely Sims and one of the FA rookie OLB's, or corners don't make the list.