*Projected* Niners Depth Chart (Updated 9/5/09)

Originally posted by OO9ers:
I see Nate Davis in the practice squad

I don't, he'll get picked up by another team because he's really talented.

Originally posted by OO9ers:
I see Nate Davis in the practice squad

Someone will for sure pick him up if we do that. Too risky.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Looks good AB. Perhaps Jay Moore beats out Brandon Long while Mark Roman sticks versus Jimmy Williams or Curtis Taylor.

Agree on both fronts.

Although I have a question, Moore has been on IR for two years, is he still PS eligible?

I'm shocked that nobody is scolding you for keeping Smith in the QB depth chart.

I don't think that Hill takes QB1 but it's early yet and Alex may still be nursing himself along.

But there have been many here that have gone out on the proverbial limb and stated that Alex will be gone if we get a QB in the draft.

Which we did.

Even so, Davis may not even make the 53 man roster. It would be good to keep him around but I don't see him staying on the PR, if that's how things shake out in Camp.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Isn't it funny that you make this assumption, when you haven't even addressed the Running Backs?

Do you really think that we'll keep so many on the roster? I don't.

Mark my words, there will be at least ONE gone before Battle's name reaches the cut list.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:
I'm shocked that nobody is scolding you for keeping Smith in the QB depth chart.

I don't think that Hill takes QB1 but it's early yet and Alex may still be nursing himself along.

But there have been many here that have gone out on the proverbial limb and stated that Alex will be gone if we get a QB in the draft.

Which we did.

Even so, Davis may not even make the 53 man roster. It would be good to keep him around but I don't see him staying on the PR, if that's how things shake out in Camp.

~Ceadder

If Davis shows he's ready to compete at the NFL level and earns a roster spot, I wouldn't doubt it all if Smith gets the ax. What you would likely have is Hill as the clear-cut starter and Huard as the clear-cut veteran backup who could come in and manage the game properly should something happen to Hill. He would also be key in mentoring both Hill and Davis.

However, if Davis is not close to being ready to take an NFL snap, he'll be hidden somehow, and the QB depth would be Hill, Smith and Huard.

What they likely won't do is go Hill, Smith and Davis....not nearly enough veteran savvy between those three.

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Isn't it funny that you make this assumption, when you haven't even addressed the Running Backs?

Do you really think that we'll keep so many on the roster? I don't.

Mark my words, there will be at least ONE gone before Battle's name reaches the cut list.

~Ceadder

I see 3 RB's: Gore, Coffee and Sheets, with 2 FB's: Norris and Robinson. Just watch what Rathman will do with Robinson at the FB position. Note that the club did not draft a FB or sign a young one yet in FA. Robinson will get a significant % of the snaps at FB. At least, that's my thinking.

I respect Battle greatly, but his skills have diminished due to his arthritic knee and the competition is there to push him off the roster. Out of respect, I expect the club to let Battle "retire", rather than cut him. But I don't see room for him on the Final 53 this year.

Originally posted by jimbagg:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Isn't it funny that you make this assumption, when you haven't even addressed the Running Backs?

Do you really think that we'll keep so many on the roster? I don't.

Mark my words, there will be at least ONE gone before Battle's name reaches the cut list.

~Ceadder

I se 3 RB's: Gore, Coffee and Sheets, with 2 FB's: Norris and Robinson. Just watch what Rathman will do with Robinson at the FB position. Note that the club did not draft a FB or sign one yet in FA. Robinson will get a significant % of the snaps at FB. At least, that's my thinking.

Totally agree on all points, jb.

Bear Pascoe and the new ILB can both LS. If this works out in camp and pre season, I say cut Jenning, he makes a million a year to LS.

That roster spot can be used for extra DL, keep Jean Pierre on the roster, and Balmer can rfotate in at NT.

Guys, do you really think the Niners can hide RJF, Sheets, Boone, and/or Davis on the practice squad? These guys are talented players and risking running any of through waivers is nuts. If you want them, you gotta find a way to get them on the final 53 man roster. IMHO, that is.

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Updated 53-Man projection:
QB(3): 13 Shaun Hill, 11 Alex Smith, 7 Nate Davis

RB(4): 21 Frank Gore, 29 Glen Coffee, 24 Michael Robinson, --- Kory Sheets

FB(1): 44 Moran Norris

WR(6): 88 Isaac Bruce, 84 Josh Morgan, 81 Brandon Jones, 15 Michael Crabtree, 89 Jason Hill, 83 Arnaz Battle

TE(3): 85 Vernon Davis, 46 Delanie Walker, 48 Bear Pascoe

C(2): 66 Eric Heitmann, 59 Cody Wallace

OG(3): 64 David Baas, 62 Chilo Rachal, 69 Tony Wragge

OT(3): 74 Joe Staley, 71 Marvel Smith, --- Alex Boone

OT/OG(1): 68 Adam Snyder

DE(4): 94 Justin Smith, 93 Demetric Evans, 96 Kentwan Balmer, 91 Ray McDonald

DT(2): 92 Aubryao Franklin, 90 Isaac Sopoaga

OLB(4): 98 Parys Haralson, 99 Manny Lawson, --- Marques Harris, --- Brandon Long

ILB(4): 52 Patrick Willis, 51 Takeo Spikes, 53 Jeff Ulbrich, 54 Scott McKillop

CB(5): 22 Nate Clements, 27 Walt Harris, 36 Shawntae Spencer, 25 Tarell Brown, 31 Reggie Smith

FS(2): 38 Dashon Goldson, 41 Jimmy Williams

SS(1): 32 Michael Lewis

FS/SS(1): 28 Curtis Taylor

PK(1): 6 Joe Nedney

P(1): 4 Andy Lee

LS(1): 86 Brian Jennings

KR/PR(1): 20 Allen Rossum

PS:

TE 49 J.J. Finley
OG --- Matt Huners
OT 61 Joe Toledo
DE – Pannel Egboh
DT 95 Ricky Jean-Francois
OLB 57 Mark Washington
CB --- Terrail Lambert
CB --- Jahi Word-Daniels

So that’s 53+8= 61 players for us in 2009(baring injuries)

So, we have 78, so here is the 17 cuts.

QB Huard, RB Clayton, FB Keasey, WR Spurlock, WR Price, WR Bradford, WR Collins, WR Zeigler, OT Sims, OT Bender, OLB Moore, OLB Brooks, ILB Roland, CB Hudson, CB Thomas, FS Roman, SS Baker

Nice post, AB and good thread overall.... Can't really disagree with any of your projections except Battle. I know he is a gamer but he has a bad knee and can't practice consistently any more. Would love to see Zeigler make the final roster too as he has great hands. Agree with all of your other cuts.

Also, some zoners are pretty high on Bender. I don't know too much about the guy. Any thoughts?

The only thing is, unfortunately, I don't see Sheets making the team. Because even if he leads the NFL preseason in rushing, obviously that is not good enough.
And I don't think he is a better blocker than Clayton.
His best chance might be as a return man; but that would be very tough for him to beat out Rossum.

Originally posted by BrianGO:
The only thing is, unfortunately, I don't see Sheets making the team. Because even if he leads the NFL preseason in rushing, obviously that is not good enough.
And I don't think he is a better blocker than Clayton.
His best chance might be as a return man; but that would be very tough for him to beat out Rossum.

I doubt if Sheets is on the field its going to be to block, I would guess that he would spend a season on the PS and then come up next year as the return specialist. Sheets is way more talented than Clayton. I dont know why alot of you guys are confused to why hes not playing he wasnt anything special in college

Originally posted by BrianGO:
The only thing is, unfortunately, I don't see Sheets making the team. Because even if he leads the NFL preseason in rushing, obviously that is not good enough.
And I don't think he is a better blocker than Clayton.
His best chance might be as a return man; but that would be very tough for him to beat out Rossum.

You are looking at this in the old mentality. Nolan and Martz are now gone so the philosophy doesn't hold water now. If Clayton's skills were superior to Sheets I would imagine they would of passed on him. Having a true scat back adds a new dimension to the offense that we haven't had. I foresee Clayton being cut and Sheets making the final 53 as the #3 RB. If he proves to be a valuable return man then we can part ways with Rossum at the end of the year and use his roster spot for a more versatile player. I see Gore getting a moderate level of touches in the preseason but the majority going to Coffee and Sheets. Maybe Gore 25% Coffee 35% Sheets 30% and MRob and Norris splitting 10%. I expect Gore to get some good reps in but I know Sing will want to keep him fresh.

The bottom line is Nolan's boys wont be safe from getting cut or demoted this year. The best player for the position will play and I trust Sing's judgment when it comes to making the decisions.

Originally posted by GoFD74:

Originally posted by jimbagg:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Very solid effort. Won't have the real answer until Game 1. I would only make a few tweaks, as I see things at this time:

3rd QB = more likely Huard, with Davis to PS for a year of learning.
4th OT = more likely Bender at LT, with Boone or Howard to PS.
6th WR = none, only 5 WR in the Raye offense, Battle could well "retire".
5th CB = Hudson stays by using Battle's roster spot
back-up OLB = M. Harris plus a veteran player not yet on the roster, Long to PS.
back-up SS = Reggie Smith beats out Jimmy Williams. Williams cut.
back-up FS - Lewis Baker beats out Curtis Taylor, Taylor to PS

Isn't it funny that you make this assumption, when you haven't even addressed the Running Backs?

Do you really think that we'll keep so many on the roster? I don't.

Mark my words, there will be at least ONE gone before Battle's name reaches the cut list.

~Ceadder

I se 3 RB's: Gore, Coffee and Sheets, with 2 FB's: Norris and Robinson. Just watch what Rathman will do with Robinson at the FB position. Note that the club did not draft a FB or sign one yet in FA. Robinson will get a significant % of the snaps at FB. At least, that's my thinking.

Totally agree on all points, jb.

I hope you are right, but Keasey is under contract for one more season, correct?

I think it'll come down to Sheets and Keasey earning that last roster spot. Keasey and Robinson give the 49ers a more physical ST unit, compared to Sheets and Robinson.