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Eric Heitmann is a Good Football Player

Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I think he tried to end Hill career like he did smith. What is he doing double teaming? He can't recognize whos coming. He's garbage
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I think he tried to end Hill career like he did smith. What is he doing double teaming? He can't recognize whos coming. He's garbage



[ Edited by 09etihW on Nov 27, 2008 at 12:33:05 ]
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I was referring to the other 3rd and goal when he actually got blown up. But, thanks for showing this pic on the other one to show that he screwed up that one (communication) too.
Boy there are some people on here getting butt hurt because we criticize "The Stud", the Captain of the OL.

I don't get it.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Boy there are some people on here getting butt hurt because we criticize "The Stud", the Captain of the OL.

I don't get it.

Amen to that brother! Ain't this the whole point of conversation.
Everyone has their opinion no reason to take it personal.
You ain't making the paycheck out.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Boy there are some people on here getting butt hurt because we criticize "The Stud", the Captain of the OL.

I don't get it.

Doesn't that pic beg the question why the center, the stud, the captain of the OL, is releasing the NT to do an up the middle rush. . . . on a run up the middle.

That was not the counter trey where that is designed

A T releases a DE to rush the QB outside the rush or on a screen
Originally posted by Watchutalkinbout:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Boy there are some people on here getting butt hurt because we criticize "The Stud", the Captain of the OL.

I don't get it.


I love that pic, but it is SO WRONG LOL
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I was referring to the other 3rd and goal when he actually got blown up. But, thanks for showing this pic on the other one to show that he screwed up that one (communication) too.

Oh, you mean this one where the ball was snapped at the 1 and Heitmann is now 2 yards down field? This is what you call "blown up?"

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Doesn't that pic beg the question why the center, the stud, the captain of the OL, is releasing the NT to do an up the middle rush. . . . on a run up the middle.

That was not the counter trey where that is designed

A T releases a DE to rush the QB outside the rush or on a screen

The answer (seemingly obvious) is that the ROOKIE RG was supposed to block down on the NT.
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I was referring to the other 3rd and goal when he actually got blown up. But, thanks for showing this pic on the other one to show that he screwed up that one (communication) too.

Oh, you mean this one where the ball was snapped at the 1 and Heitmann is now 2 yards down field? This is what you call "blown up?"


If the ball was snapped at the 1 and he was 2 yards down field, mister nitpicker, wouldn't that put him 1 yard in the end zone. I "nitipicker" is a person that "picks nits" i.e. would comb lice out of a child's hair, because the lice larvae is a nit.

He's blocking his own man to the exclusion of the Cowboy player.

And where is the QB?
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by moopoo:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
A breakdown from MM:

"If I had to rank their performances based on this game, from best to worst, I'd go: Heitmann, Staley, Baas, Rachal and Snyder."

http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/11/closer-look-at-o-line-play-against-dallas.html

On that 3rd and goal, Heitmann got blown up. Ask Alex about that. LA is equally to blame on the Bernard play.

Heitmann is a smart guy. He is technically sound. However, when he gets blown up it is obvious and at bad time.

I don't know why there are 6 pages defending the guy. He's no Randy Cross or Jesse Sapolu or Newberry.

Look, I'm not a Heitmann fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Heitmann did NOT get "blown up" on that third down play. He blocked left to double team the DE with Bass. Rachal went right and Ratliff went up the middle untouched. That is obvious miscommunication.

Of which it is crucial that the center must make sure that he gets the message out to the line about the assigned blocking scheme for the play. The guy is over rated. He has been the starter here long enough to at the least have the proper technique downpat, amongst other things he fails at.

So you're assuming that Heitmann (a six year starter) failed to communicate, and the ROOKIE right guard is exempt from blame?


So, you are assuming that the Center did a great job on the play , and did everything text perfect ? He is the Captain, and should make sure everyone is on the same page. Sapolu,Cross, andNewberry, guys like those are far superior to what Heitman offers us. We have above averagePAY, for a slightly below average center.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the ROOKIE made a mistake! Making the right call is easy, but it's the other guys job to understand it and execute it. Rachal is a ROOKIE starting his first game in a pressure situation, so he probably made a mistake.

So, have you abandoned you're orignal theory that Heitmann "got blown up?" LOL.

I was referring to the other 3rd and goal when he actually got blown up. But, thanks for showing this pic on the other one to show that he screwed up that one (communication) too.

Oh, you mean this one where the ball was snapped at the 1 and Heitmann is now 2 yards down field? This is what you call "blown up?"


If the ball was snapped at the 1 and he was 2 yards down field, mister nitpicker, wouldn't that put him 1 yard in the end zone. I "nitipicker" is a person that "picks nits" i.e. would comb lice out of a child's hair, because the lice larvae is a nit.

He's blocking his own man to the exclusion of the Cowboy player.

And where is the QB?

Let me try and cut through your BS. Heitmann snapped the ball at the 1 yard line, in the photo his right foot is on the 3 yard line, thus putting him 2 yards downfield.
He his blocking Ratliff while Gore is running into him from behind. Is that clear?
eric heitman is an average center........
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
eric heitman is an average center........

But according to some in this thread, if our center doesn't dominate his man on EVERY single play, he's horrible, possibly the worst center in the league. LOL.