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  • lazy
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Originally posted by Joecool:
11/12 Interview: Fairly accurate with Kaep. Other stuff isn't anything new.
http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/razormrt/111212gregcosell.mp3


  1. Kaep: If he starts, it will be interesting to see how Jim manages him because he's limited with his pass game understanding and he's not discipline in the pocket, he was a little lost as a drop back passer, he did not read his progressions at all. This is all expected due to his experience.
Kaep is limited? does he shop here too?





Gawd I stopped listening to Cossell after he labeled the Lions contenders(all because of Staffords arm)...and us pretenders.
Originally posted by lazy:
Originally posted by Joecool:
11/12 Interview: Fairly accurate with Kaep. Other stuff isn't anything new.
http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/razormrt/111212gregcosell.mp3


  1. Kaep: If he starts, it will be interesting to see how Jim manages him because he's limited with his pass game understanding and he's not discipline in the pocket, he was a little lost as a drop back passer, he did not read his progressions at all. This is all expected due to his experience.
Kaep is limited? does he shop here too?





Gawd I stopped listening to Cossell after he labeled the Lions contenders(all because of Staffords arm)...and us pretenders.

Really? He said he is limited with his understanding, not his ability.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by lazy:
Originally posted by Joecool:
11/12 Interview: Fairly accurate with Kaep. Other stuff isn't anything new.
http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/razormrt/111212gregcosell.mp3


  1. Kaep: If he starts, it will be interesting to see how Jim manages him because he's limited with his pass game understanding and he's not discipline in the pocket, he was a little lost as a drop back passer, he did not read his progressions at all. This is all expected due to his experience.
Kaep is limited? does he shop here too?





Gawd I stopped listening to Cossell after he labeled the Lions contenders(all because of Staffords arm)...and us pretenders.

Really? He said he is limited with his understanding, not his ability.

No one doubts his physical ability. That was a given before he was drafted. The issue was, and still is, can he learn to play the pro game. Cossell mentioned two keys to keep in mind in evaluating his future:

First, pocket discipline. It is one thing to be able to run on designed plays, however, that is not the same as having pocket discipline and awareness. Peyton Manning has great pocket awareness and discipline (especially this season when he is being very careful to get rid of the ball before he takes a hit). CK has yet to demonstrate that kind of awareness. He may learn it but it clearly isn't there now.

Second, understanding the offense. While he did appear to adjust a couple of calls and blocking assignments, he did not appear to have good recognition of the post-snap situation. His uncertainty in going through his progressions was apparent. So while that is something that we would expect him to learn in time, it is not there yet, whether he will get it or not is still an open question.

The other part of this is the fact that the OL clearly does not appear to spend as much time working on pass protection as run blocking. These guys are studs at run blocking but the shape and consistency of the pass pocket is often sub-par, consequently Kaepernick's learning curve in pocket discipline will be dependent on the OL developing the feel for how to create a consistent pocket.
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless

Actually would like to see what CK could do with a full week of practice and a game plan tailored for his skill set. Also that new dude Kapshouldstart sounds pretty smart I hope he sticks around.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless

Actually would like to see what CK could do with a full week of practice and a game plan tailored for his skill set. Also that new dude Kapshouldstart sounds pretty smart I hope he sticks around.

While that would be interesting, I don't want to see an "experiment" unless it is a last option. Most unbiased observers, even Cossell for god's sake, would agree.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless

Actually would like to see what CK could do with a full week of practice and a game plan tailored for his skill set. Also that new dude Kapshouldstart sounds pretty smart I hope he sticks around.

While that would be interesting, I don't want to see an "experiment" unless it is a last option. Most unbiased observers, even Cossell for god's sake, would agree.

Im not sure what he would say.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless

Actually would like to see what CK could do with a full week of practice and a game plan tailored for his skill set. Also that new dude Kapshouldstart sounds pretty smart I hope he sticks around.

While that would be interesting, I don't want to see an "experiment" unless it is a last option. Most unbiased observers, even Cossell for god's sake, would agree.

Im not sure what he would say.

Lol... did you hear what he said about Kaep? If you can't come to the conclusion that he thinks Smith should start (even though he bashes Smith), then you are wearing the rose colored ones main.... You sound like that foo Kapshouldstart.
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What Cosell really wants to say is that he doesn't believe Smith/Kaepernick or Roman's offense for that matter is good enough to win a championship. That's what's holding back an otherwise solid roster.

But he's too chicken **** to put his balls on the table and say that.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by susweel:
so cossell does hate on other Qbs.

Lol... He hates ALL niner QBs.

Honestly, Kaep did miss a lot of open guys. That is not a knock on his ability. We can't expect a kid to come in for his first extended period of time, without preparing during the week to start, and master the progressions of the office. That will take some time, which is why Alex starting is a no brainer for most... except this new dude name "KapShouldStart".... that dude sounds clueless

Actually would like to see what CK could do with a full week of practice and a game plan tailored for his skill set. Also that new dude Kapshouldstart sounds pretty smart I hope he sticks around.

While that would be interesting, I don't want to see an "experiment" unless it is a last option. Most unbiased observers, even Cossell for god's sake, would agree.

Im not sure what he would say.

Lol... did you hear what he said about Kaep? If you can't come to the conclusion that he thinks Smith should start (even though he bashes Smith), then you are wearing the rose colored ones main.... You sound like that foo Kapshouldstart.

He only thinks Smith should start because he is only thinking of the 49ers winning one game. Wonder what he would say if someone asked him which QB should they keep in the long term?
We have a QB who actually proved Cossell wrong. Will be interesting to hear what he says.
Originally posted by Joecool:
We have a QB who actually proved Cossell wrong. Will be interesting to hear what he says.


Cosell was spooging all over himself this afternoon regarding CK7 on 95.7. He made it pretty firmly clear that he believes Kaepernick gives us the best shot to win the Super Bowl this year.
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by Joecool:
We have a QB who actually proved Cossell wrong. Will be interesting to hear what he says.


Cosell was spooging all over himself this afternoon regarding CK7 on 95.7. He made it pretty firmly clear that he believes Kaepernick gives us the best shot to win the Super Bowl this year.

But, but, he's a guy who never admit he's wrong...
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by Joecool:
We have a QB who actually proved Cossell wrong. Will be interesting to hear what he says.


Cosell was spooging all over himself this afternoon regarding CK7 on 95.7. He made it pretty firmly clear that he believes Kaepernick gives us the best shot to win the Super Bowl this year.

But, but, he's a guy who never admit he's wrong...

Doesn't make Kaep any less awesome