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Originally posted by zomg_its_ryan:
Seriously, what do you expect him to say about his quarterback?
CONCLUSION
Comparing their stats side-by-side, it looks clear that Brady has the upper hand. But by taking a deeper look at how they compared to their peers in their own eras, Montana fares better. Brady can't compare to Montana's perfect 4-0 Super Bowl record and 11-0 touchdown-to-interception ratio. If Super Bowls are your ultimate measuring stick, Montana is your guy.
If raw numbers are all that matters, there's a solid argument for Brady. But if you take into account how much quarterback play has changed by comparing against their peers, Montana seems to come out ahead.
Originally posted by zomg_its_ryan:ya but hes lost two and had two of his wins won by his kicker. all 4 superbowls joe won and it wasnt by a damn kicker from half a field away. 11 TDs to ZERO INTs in the superbowl , his passer rating in superbowls is 127.8. joe cool, the greatest QB of all time. 4-0 is better than 3-2, they dont play to be runner up, they play to be the best and joe was the best every time.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
robert kraft can suck a duck. 4-0 in Superbowls. whats bradys record?
3-2
He's been to 1 more super bowl than Montana....
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
When was the last time Brady won a Super Bowl without his kicker???
Montana blew teams out that had QB's like Marino and Elway, not depend on a kicker to win it for him.
Who's the owner of the Patriots again??
Thats all they had, those teams werent as good as the Giants teams that beat the Pats both times. Kicker argument is not a very good one and is played out. Dont forget if it wasnt for a dropped int in the endzone Montana would have a L on side for a super bowl, he was lucky he got another chance
Originally posted by Kolohe:also saying that thats all those teams had was f**kin retarded. elway had both a 1000 yard rusher and a 1000 receiver on his team and a very good defense. two of marino's WRs had 1300 yards, he had a few probowlers on his o-line, also had a good 3 headed back system that was very productive. that was the year marino set the TD record and put up video game numbers and the niners were supposed to get smashed on. Montana is Montana, and he was on fire. thats why we won both of those games but we also had great surrounding players on offense and defense. you dont go to the superbowl when you dont have good players. saying a team only had one person that matters is just not smart.
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
When was the last time Brady won a Super Bowl without his kicker???
Montana blew teams out that had QB's like Marino and Elway, not depend on a kicker to win it for him.
Who's the owner of the Patriots again??
Thats all they had, those teams werent as good as the Giants teams that beat the Pats both times. Kicker argument is not a very good one and is played out. Dont forget if it wasnt for a dropped int in the endzone Montana would have a L on side for a super bowl, he was lucky he got another chance
Dude you gotta be kidding me with that first sentence!!! LOL we were the better team last year than the Giants. And the kicker argument is a very good one, it showed that he couldn't close out a drive on his behalf and relied on his kicker to close the deal. You say if it wasn't for a dropped INT in the endzone Montana would've had a L on his side. Well If Brady's kicker missed two last minute FG's Brady would be 1-4 in Super Bowls.
Originally posted by RonMexico:put brady on montanas teams and he wins 5+ superbowls
