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Terrell Owens cannot be tolerated, even by the Indoor Football League

Originally posted by WINiner:
Umm exactly. The Cowboys and Jerry Jones were willing to keep a guy who got arrested for cocaine and prostitutes, and according to you (I have never read or heard about this scissors story) also stabbed a teammate with scissors yet they wanted TO gone.

You lack understanding of my point. They were willing to put up with allllll that, yet would not put up with TO. In other words, since you seem to lack understanding, TO is a team CANCER. He rips teams apart. Irvin while a s**tty human being was STILL not the team cancer TO was.

"Team cancer" is a meaningless term. Again, I ask you...what is it, exactly, that you think he was doing behind the scenes that was worse than Michael Irvin stabbing Everett McIver in the neck with scissors?

I'm talking specifics. How could one guy be so disruptive to a team that they cut him for it? What do you think he is doing that makes him this powerful anti-Christ behind the scenes?


And just cause some teams resigned him, including the team that drafted him and might I add they resigned him prior to him falling off the deep end, doesn't negate the fact that he's a CANCER. The Cowboys resigned him in an effort to placate him. Make him feel wanted to hopefully stop his antics.

You can capitalize the meaningless term all you'd like. That doesn't answer my question. The burden of proof is not on me, it's on you.

Your last two sentences are laughable. They signed him to "placate him?" He's so powerful that he tells the owner what to do? And stop what antics? What was he doing?


NOBODY wants TO. There are SEVERAL WR starved teams end of last season and this offseason headed into the draft. Teams would rather try an untested rookie than TO.

Teams usually want to try draft picks before signing 38-year-old WRs coming off knee injuries. This is nothing new.



There are teams to this day who could really use a decent WR, even only as a #2 WR yet TO is still unemployed.

The demand for "decent old receivers" isn't very high. If teams thought there was a point to bringing Owens in as a #3 or #4, sure, they'd go for it. But they don't think he'd accept that kind of role (and, quite frankly, he probably wouldn't, as he has more pride than some other desperate guys who just want to hang around the game).


This is the same sorry song and dance I used to hear from you at Ninerholics site Taber. According to you TO is god, faster than anyone (didn;t you splice a video of TO running the 40 against an Olympic gold medalist sprinter at one point to try to prove this? Absolutely hilarious). Unfairly hounded by the media.

Uh, no. You just completely pulled that out of your rear end.

I did, however, post these:

http://www.thesuperstars.org/comp/01final.html

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=OKTB&p_theme=oktb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0F9935F62559D1CA&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

(since you have to pay to read this)

"During the 49ers' recent visit to Osaka, Japan, Owens raced receiver Mike Jennings in the 40-yard dash and smoked him. Jennings -- a track sprinter in college..."



I left that site for good 5 years ago and he has followed the exact same path I predicted then. TO could have been the best ever. Better than Rice, better than Moss who he is EXTREMELY envious/jealous of, better than anyone, but his mouth ruined it all and he will go down in NFL history more of a circus sideshow than one of the greatest WR's to ever have played.

Could have been the best ever? Meaning what? In stats? Not a chance. He's nearly 7,000 yards shy of Rice. He played 15 years in the NFL. Where's he going to make up 7,000 yards? In the twilight years of his career if he'd played into his early 40's? Or somewhere else?

Every time he left a team in his prime, he upgraded in situation. Getting out of SF worked out great for him. McNabb > Garcia. Getting out of Philadelphia worked out great for him. Romo > McNabb.

Sure, leaving Dallas for Buffalo after 2008 was a downgrade, but he was 35 years old at that point. He had no prayer of catching Rice.

What did his mouth do, exactly? The media turned him into a villain because of the star celebration. Nothing more, nothing less. The so-called "controversial" things he said wouldn't have even crossed the radar if the media hadn't been looking for them. Everything Owens supposedly said or did, Rice said or did as well, and in far greater frequency and intensity. But Rice never celebrated touchdowns in a manner that offended idiotic "purists."

This "could have been better than Rice" stuff is just utterly asinine. People act like Jerry Rices just grow on trees. Rice went to a tiny school and was a mid-first round pick. He was considered an exceptional athlete in his prime, despite revisionist history. He was king of the game breaking play. The best runner after the catch in NFL history, and a dangerous deep threat as well. He was also the most durable player the league has ever seen. Aside from the ACL tear, never missed a game because of injury.

Owens was a little-known 3rd round pick who was pretty much unrecruited out of high school, drafted purely for athleticism. Nobody ever expected him to be an NFL star, much less "better than Rice." He was hurt a lot during his career, rarely completing all 16 games. He worked harder than anyone to maximize his ability. He left nothing in the weight room or on the practice field. What he did is all he could do.
Originally posted by cciowa:
jordon also misrepresents the rice young thing. The only thing rice ever said badly about young is that it was very hard to adjust from a right hander to a left hander. as we know the learning curve was short and they made history together, rice was never a cancer. He never left a scorched earth where ever he went. The only reasons things worked out well in buffalo and the bengals was that they gave him a one year contract, History will show diva wide outs are good on a one year deal and after that, you do not want to temp fate. I am not calling out jordon but he does fudge the facts a bit about rice in order to pump up his boy


Since then Young has gone through these difficulties: Pouting by the All-Universe receiver Jerry Rice that he doesn't stay in the pocket long enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/13/sports/football-as-young-prepares-for-giants-there-remains-a-lot-to-prove.html

Owens wasn't a cancer and never left a "scorched earth" anywhere, either. That's just melodramatic, anti-Owens media propaganda nonsense. Your opinions are entirely based on what you've read/heard from editorialists and TV/radio "personalities."
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Originally posted by JerryRiceDrops:

Since then Young has gone through these difficulties: Pouting by the All-Universe receiver Jerry Rice that he doesn't stay in the pocket long enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/13/sports/football-as-young-prepares-for-giants-there-remains-a-lot-to-prove.html

Owens wasn't a cancer and never left a "scorched earth" anywhere, either. That's just melodramatic, anti-Owens media propaganda nonsense. Your opinions are entirely based on what you've read/heard from editorialists and TV/radio "personalities."
Well at least there is one of you that believes that.i am not so sure that garcia, mcnabb and romo would believe you
fervent defense of TO > fervent attacks on AS
Originally posted by JerryRiceDrops:
Owens wasn't a cancer and never left a "scorched earth" anywhere, either. That's just melodramatic, anti-Owens media propaganda nonsense. Your opinions are entirely based on what you've read/heard from editorialists and TV/radio "personalities."

Same thing I've been arguing in here and in the other thread in NT. People get fired up and recycle opinions based on what the media portrays. Its funny to me that they chose to make a villian out of a guy like T.O....when there have been murderers, drug dealers, wife beaters and other criminals playing in the NFL since its inception. Its just funny to me.
T.O. is learning the painful lesson of burning bridges and diminishing value. He thought he would be at his peak forever, and this fantastic perception of himself enabled his to treat his organizations and teammates poorly. He simply thought he would always be good enough to get away with it. Unfortunately, reality has set in and his chickens have come home to roost. Poetic justice. Cause and effect. He has no one to blame but himself...but that would take a minimum level of maturity and realistic, self-evaluation, which T.O. does not and never will possess.
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Owens is really done... if Chad Johnson can get a job after the non-existent production last year & is only a free agent for a day this week, then Owens is really not coming back to the NFL
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Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
T.O. is learning the painful lesson of burning bridges and diminishing value. He thought he would be at his peak forever, and this fantastic perception of himself enabled his to treat his organizations and teammates poorly. He simply thought he would always be good enough to get away with it. Unfortunately, reality has set in and his chickens have come home to roost. Poetic justice. Cause and effect. He has no one to blame but himself...but that would take a minimum level of maturity and realistic, self-evaluation, which T.O. does not and never will possess.
doing setups in the driveway in front of the media. That is not an attention whore. He will never blame himself. hell he never took blame for dropping passes in his last year as a niner but he sure had no problem blaming others on the team for mistakes made.
Originally posted by JerryRiceDrops:
Originally posted by cciowa:
jordon also misrepresents the rice young thing. The only thing rice ever said badly about young is that it was very hard to adjust from a right hander to a left hander. as we know the learning curve was short and they made history together, rice was never a cancer. He never left a scorched earth where ever he went. The only reasons things worked out well in buffalo and the bengals was that they gave him a one year contract, History will show diva wide outs are good on a one year deal and after that, you do not want to temp fate. I am not calling out jordon but he does fudge the facts a bit about rice in order to pump up his boy

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Since then Young has gone through these difficulties: Pouting by the All-Universe receiver Jerry Rice that he doesn't stay in the pocket long enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/13/sports/football-as-young-prepares-for-giants-there-remains-a-lot-to-prove.html

Owens wasn't a cancer and never left a "scorched earth" anywhere, either. That's just melodramatic, anti-Owens media propaganda nonsense. Your opinions are entirely based on what you've read/heard from editorialists and TV/radio "personalities."

He was a cancer.

He was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in Philly and they cut ties to him when he was a beast.

Dallas released him when he was a beast.

Why would 2 different teams release a beast player other than his conduct being detrimental to the team aka "cancer" ?
Originally posted by cciowa:
doing setups in the driveway in front of the media. That is not an attention whore.

You mean when the paparazzi and reporters were stalking him outside his house? Owens didn't order them there, moron. He went out and gave them a show because they wouldn't go away.


Get a clue before you die from idiocy.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
He was a cancer.

He was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in Philly and they cut ties to him when he was a beast.

Dallas released him when he was a beast.

Why would 2 different teams release a beast player other than his conduct being detrimental to the team aka "cancer" ?

He was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in Philly and they cut ties to him when he was a beast.


Suspended by Eagles management, not the coach himself. All during a contract dispute.


Dallas released him when he was a beast.


First off, Owens wasn't released, idiot. His contract was not renewed.

Dallas let him walk him after he had a sub par year (by his standards). He only had 1,000 yards(as opposed to his usual 1300-1500), they had young playmakers already in place, and Owens was nearing his middle 30's. It's really not all that strange when a team doesn't renew the contract for an aging and declining WR. The 49ers did the same thing with a feller named Rice.



Originally posted by HeOnlyGets3Years:
Originally posted by cciowa:
doing setups in the driveway in front of the media. That is not an attention whore.

You mean when the paparazzi and reporters were stalking him outside his house? Owens didn't order them there, moron. He went out and gave them a show because they wouldn't go away.


Get a clue before you die from idiocy.

I would think you would have outgrown this stuff by now, Jordan.
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Originally posted by HeOnlyGets3Years:
You mean when the paparazzi and reporters were stalking him outside his house? Owens didn't order them there, moron. He went out and gave them a show because they wouldn't go away.


Get a clue before you die from idiocy.
he certainly was an enabler. when the media stalks you what should you do?? of course go out and do setups in the driveway. brilliant. I may be replying to a banned poster but what the hell, i am easily amused
Originally posted by HeOnlyGets3Years:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
He was a cancer.

He was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in Philly and they cut ties to him when he was a beast.

Dallas released him when he was a beast.

Why would 2 different teams release a beast player other than his conduct being detrimental to the team aka "cancer" ?

He was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in Philly and they cut ties to him when he was a beast.


Suspended by Eagles management, not the coach himself. All during a contract dispute.


Dallas released him when he was a beast.


First off, Owens wasn't released, idiot. His contract was not renewed.

Dallas let him walk him after he had a sub par year (by his standards). He only had 1,000 yards(as opposed to his usual 1300-1500), they had young playmakers already in place, and Owens was nearing his middle 30's. It's really not all that strange when a team doesn't renew the contract for an aging and declining WR. The 49ers did the same thing with a feller named Rice.




It must really must suck to be you; losing so much sleep, breathlessly defending an athlete like TO to your dying day.

Move on, troll. Move on.

Live to troll another day.

Perhaps you can get a 'hero do-over' and not pick Owens, next time. I've heard good things about some cat name Willis... first name Patrick. Perhaps you can re-mold your heroic expectations behind that stud, huh?