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Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
suh=top 3 defensive tackle, PERIOD

Who qualifies as a defensive tackle? Are 3-4 defensive ends excluded? If they're not, then Smith, McDonald, and Calais Campbell are all better or as good as Suh and that's just the NFC West. Suh has some unreal potential but he was a kind of good lineman last year, not top 3. If he gets his head right then he'll be just like Justin Smith but until then he's just another super talented guy with his head too far up his ass to become great. Right now he is riding the hype from his rookie year as the next big thing when in reality he was between solid and good last year.
the nfc has been copying the niners forever. nothing new here.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Good for him and good for us.

If he wasn't good enough to make our team then Baalke's doing a fine job.

explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
[ Edited by sspiker on Sep 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM ]
Originally posted by sspiker:
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
There was no competition at backup OT.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sspiker:
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
There was no competition at backup OT.

He may have made the team if Leonard Davis wasn't signed.

Do you think this is actually a big deal?

You're being a bit hyper-critical. Chill.
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sspiker:
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
There was no competition at backup OT.

He may have made the team if Leonard Davis wasn't signed.

Do you think this is actually a big deal?

You're being a bit hyper-critical. Chill.

Having no other guy really concerns me. OT and OLB are very important and we are gambling at both spots.....but have 6 RB's.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Having no other guy really concerns me. OT and OLB are very important and we are gambling at both spots.....but have 6 RB's.

It's been explained to you countless times already. This is my last try.

Starting OTs: Staley and A.Davis = 2

Back-up OTs: Boone and L.Davis = 2

That's four tackles. How many do you think the team needs?

The OLB situation is currently up in the air. We don't know the situation yet.
The sky is falling
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Having no other guy really concerns me. OT and OLB are very important and we are gambling at both spots.....but have 6 RB's.

It's been explained to you countless times already. This is my last try.

Starting OTs: Staley and A.Davis = 2

Back-up OTs: Boone and L.Davis = 2

That's four tackles. How many do you think the team needs?

The OLB situation is currently up in the air. We don't know the situation yet.
Leonard is a guard...and by the looks of it Boone is now one as well. Playing musical chairs on the OL is too risky IMO. Keeping an OT over Looney would've been wiser.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Leonard is a guard...and by the looks of it Boone is now one as well. Playing musical chairs on the OL is too risky IMO. Keeping an OT over Looney would've been wiser.

Sorry, but it's hard for me to believe that you know better than Harbaugh and Baalke.

L.Davis is 2nd string guard and 3rd string tackle. Boone is 1st string guard and 2nd string tackle.

::sigh::

Forget it... think what you want.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/09/01/seahawks-kellen-winslow-released.ap/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a12
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sspiker:
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
There was no competition at backup OT.

When you're a back-up you're not just competing within your position group.
According to Ravens Insider, the deal is 5 year, 40 million, with 25 million guaranteed in the first two seasons.
Why do they mention the period? Is it unusual that guaranteed money is paid completely before the contract expired?
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sspiker:
Originally posted by jreff22:
explain that? why draft kids who cant make the roster...either draft somebody else or trade the picks

You draft the potential and put them into competition. Person's potential earned him a spot on the 53 last year. Our team improved, and he didn't live up to the competition this year. Same thing with Curtis Holcomb and Philip Adams.

Honestly, how much of a return do you think we'd get for 7th round picks? Essentially all they do is pre-empt waiver claims on UDFAs.
There was no competition at backup OT.

When you're a back-up you're not just competing within your position group.
Person was the only other OT that we invested in. I had a feeling we drafted 2 guys because somebody was in trouble...wish another OT was drafted instead of 2 OG's.

I expect we go back to the OL again in the draft....thats 5 guys in 3 years