Has the NFL gone too far with rule changes favoring the offense over many decades?

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BenQ:
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Why is there more money in that? Don't people like defense too?

It seems the sad truth is no. People only want to see lots of offense

Defense was always a part of the purity of the true historical game. Getting the other team off the field was something to be proud of. A 3 and out was something to celebrate if your team could force it. What happened to that?

Guess the Giants and Falcons didn't get the memo.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BenQ:
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Why is there more money in that? Don't people like defense too?

It seems the sad truth is no. People only want to see lots of offense

Defense was always a part of the purity of the true historical game. Getting the other team off the field was something to be proud of. A 3 and out was something to celebrate if your team could force it. What happened to that?

Don't know.

Originally posted by susweel:
Guess the Giants and Falcons didn't get the memo.

The exception that proves the rule.

It's a lot like homeruns became in the early 2000s: incredibly boring because they were too frequent.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Defense was always a part of the purity of the true historical game. Getting the other team off the field was something to be proud of. A 3 and out was something to celebrate if your team could force it. What happened to that?

Just maybe, it can be blamed on the over commercialisation of the game ...
coupled with, the mind-set of today' average NFL fan. Anyway, that how I see
it - 'cause, "It all about The Benjamins"

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Janitor:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BenQ:
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Why is there more money in that? Don't people like defense too?

It seems the sad truth is no. People only want to see lots of offense

Defense was always a part of the purity of the true historical game. Getting the other team off the field was something to be proud of. A 3 and out was something to celebrate if your team could force it. What happened to that?

Don't know.

LOL.

Yes.

The recent slew of former players coming out to sue the NFL probably has something to do with the explosion of recent rule changes regarding defenseless players as well.

I've mentioned it before but this season's NFL makes me f'ing sick. Michaels and Collinsworth were having a discussion last night about how the old mantra of "defense wins championships" may be dead. F that. That Loins vs. Aints games was a joke.

I hope the Niners crush the Aints on Saturday. They owe me one.

There was plenty of offense before the rule changes. Dont like the rule changes and really I think this era of football is symbolic of the steriod era. Both are bad for the sport.

I think as a whole the zone only cares about taking some of the physicality out of the game. I doubt many of them realize the evolution of the rules has strongly favored the offense. As evidence of this somebody compared 1981 Montana numbers to 2011 Smith saying they were similar. I believe I was the only one who explained they weren't. I also see many posts questioning why certain Qbs from the 60's and 70's were in the Hall of Fame with such poor numbers. I explain over and over and not many seem to listen. San Diego, I think you are the first one other than me to mention about lineman not able to use their hands to block while getting hit in the head. You have to be over 40 to remember that as somewhere around 1980 is when beating on a lineman's head was disallowed.

Originally posted by BobS:
I think as a whole the zone only cares about taking some of the physicality out of the game. I doubt many of them realize the evolution of the rules has strongly favored the offense. As evidence of this somebody compared 1981 Montana numbers to 2011 Smith saying they were similar. I believe I was the only one who explained they weren't. I also see many posts questioning why certain Qbs from the 60's and 70's were in the Hall of Fame with such poor numbers. I explain over and over and not many seem to listen. San Diego, I think you are the first one other than me to mention about lineman not able to use their hands to block while getting hit in the head. You have to be over 40 to remember that as somewhere around 1980 is when beating on a lineman's head was disallowed.

I wasn't around at the time but I know it was the case. And the rules are massively favoring the offense now.

National Flag Football League

Originally posted by kray28:
National Flag Football League

It's becomming like flag football. How long before 2 hand touch... Don't hit high, don't hit low, don't hit a defenseless WR, don't hit too hard, don't hit to the head. All of this was legal 10, 20, 30 years ago.

Well, I have been watching football for over 40 years and played in High School and College in the 70's before most of the rule changes favoring the offense took effect. It seems every time I share the difference between then and now no one listens or cares. I honestly believe most young guys think we have the best class of QBs ever because we have ten or so 4,000 yard passers every year. Guys like Bart Starr throwing for 2,000 yards a season and an 80 passer rating are in the Hall of Fame because the NFL offenses weren't into passing and all the quarterbacks weren't any good. A lot of these 4,000 yard QBs are masters of the timing route. Well before the 5 yard chuck rule, you could do anything but tackle a receiver as long as the ball wasn't in the air. That basically eliminated any pass play based on timing, I could go on and on. Also the league did not protect quarterbacks, they were fair game. Most took a bad beating which limited their effectiveness.

Originally posted by BobS:
Well, I have been watching football for over 40 years and played in High School and College in the 70's before most of the rule changes favoring the offense took effect. It seems every time I share the difference between then and now no one listens or cares. I honestly believe most young guys think we have the best class of QBs ever because we have ten or so 4,000 yard passers every year. Guys like Bart Starr throwing for 2,000 yards a season and an 80 passer rating are in the Hall of Fame because the NFL offenses weren't into passing and all the quarterbacks weren't any good. A lot of these 4,000 yard QBs are masters of the timing route. Well before the 5 yard chuck rule, you could do anything but tackle a receiver as long as the ball wasn't in the air. That basically eliminated any pass play based on timing, I could go on and on. Also the league did not protect quarterbacks, they were fair game. Most took a bad beating which limited their effectiveness.

They don't really have a clue and you will never convince them. They think past QB's were TEH SSUUUXXOOORRSSS.... And todays QB's are the greatest generation of QB's ever. But it's all the rule changes.