Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
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Dec 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM
- WillistheWall
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Dec 27, 2011 at 5:18 AM
- communist
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I dont get the hate against AJ Smith. He built a talented team in San Diego.
Dec 27, 2011 at 5:36 AM
- TheChozen
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It'll take AJ Smith 10 years to draft any kind of talent.
Dec 27, 2011 at 9:26 AM
- global_nomad
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Originally posted by TheChozen:
It'll take AJ Smith 10 years to draft any kind of talent.
maybe he'll draft another QB and then let Bradford walk
Dec 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by communist:I dont get the hate against AJ Smith. He built a talented team in San Diego.
AJ Smith has been terrible lately with his FA and Draft handlings. I laughed at several of his most recent 1st rounders, particularly Larry English who I was SCREAMING "BUST" about all over this board.
His most recent years have been FILLED with a monstrous amount of "reach" picks. Jonas Mouton on the second this year? SERIOUSLY? He's not even a fit for the 3-4.
He was valued as a 5th rounder at best. He didn't play in any games this year, and went on IR in Week 3.1st rounder Larry English has been a bust.
1st rounder Craig "Buster" Davis was a bust.
1st rounder Antoine Cason has been getting roasted by opposing QB's, looking like he might be a bust too.
Dec 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:He had built a good team in the past but lately it has been just terrible. He hired Marty. Then fired him after a 14-2 season. they lost after their bye to the patroits, who eventually won the superbowl. He is responsible for hiring Turner. If you say Norv is no good, then you have to point the finger at the guy who hired him. They hired Manusky as D coordinator from us, and he wasn't even a good D coordinator, he just stops the run. They let Brees go, Michael Turner, Sproles, etc...
Originally posted by communist:
I dont get the hate against AJ Smith. He built a talented team in San Diego.
AJ Smith has been terrible lately with his FA and Draft handlings. I laughed at several of his most recent 1st rounders, particularly Larry English who I was SCREAMING "BUST" about all over this board.
His most recent years have been FILLED with a monstrous amount of "reach" picks. Jonas Mouton on the second this year? SERIOUSLY? He's not even a fit for the 3-4.He was valued as a 5th rounder at best. He didn't play in any games this year, and went on IR in Week 3.
1st rounder Larry English has been a bust.
1st rounder Craig "Buster" Davis was a bust.
1st rounder Antoine Cason has been getting roasted by opposing QB's, looking like he might be a bust too.
The latest draft was aweful. They still have time to develop but they had 5 picks in the first 2 rounds and they all look like duds...
Dec 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM
- boast
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Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
Dec 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM
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honestly it'd be bad for us....Gruden is overrated yes but he is a decent coach (at times), and regardless of how he did win a Super Bowl. Aj Smith beasted in SD just hasn't had much post season wins (compare the Chargers before Smith and after). It'd be interesting
Dec 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM
- SnakePlissken
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
It can be adjusted. -If the Rams make Bradford feel unwelcome enough to be there by telling him flat-out they're drafting luck (and plan on starting him), Bradford will demand a trade himself (and will re-work his salary) to get it done. -Would be sad though, since it is still his rookie contract.
Dec 27, 2011 at 5:32 PM
- OtisDriftwood
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Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
Yeah well good luck trading that contract and a QB that had like 6 tds all season long. Not a huge market for that.
Dec 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM
- krizay
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Originally posted by OtisDriftwood:
Yeah well good luck trading that contract and a QB that had like 6 tds all season long. Not a huge market for that.
You do realize the Rams would be on the hook for his signing bonus right? Which that alone would allow Bradford to redo his deal to a friendly number to the team he goes to and still will basically get roughly the same amount in the long haul. Thanks again to yet another signing bonus.
Dec 27, 2011 at 6:26 PM
- AXEGRINDER
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Originally posted by boast:Originally posted by sk8052:On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
this.
think before you speak Gruden.
Dec 27, 2011 at 7:07 PM
- TheGoldDiggerrrr
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Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
this.
think before you speak Gruden.
I would offer a 3rd rounder. lol kids a beast he'd have talent here.
Dec 27, 2011 at 7:49 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
this.
think before you speak Gruden.
Exactly. No one is taking on Bradford's salary. No one. What did he sign? 5 years at 75 million? Good luck.
Dec 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by sk8052:
On the MNF telecast Gruden felt out said that if he was running the Rams he'd draft Luck #1 overall if they had the pick and trade Sam Bradford.
shows how much he knows. NO ONE is going to trade for Bradford and his salary. Rams are stuck with him for awhile.
this.
think before you speak Gruden.
Exactly. No one is taking on Bradford's salary. No one. What did he sign? 5 years at 75 million? Good luck.
Yea, but a lot of that is guaranteed money. His yearly salary is probably $8-9M a year.