Originally posted by dtg_9er:Originally posted by mike:
and the past few weeks I've read that the players had "a pretty good offer on the table" from the owners, but their greedy asses believed that with player-friendly Judge Doty they could win more.
They need a mediator to just lay down the lines of compromising:
-16 games(sorry owners)
- rookie cap(sorry players)
Rookies should not be having this mentality that they have the right to millions of guaranteed money just because they had a good college career. Your rookie year should be proving that you deserve the big bucks, then you get the big contract. Until then, you're just a prospect. Owners have plenty of examples of wasted money on the jamarcus russells of the league.
Owners on the other hand are just trying to increase that huge revenue by increasing the amount of games, this would increase injuries and overall make the playoffs become a game full of guys who didn't even play in the regular season because half of the team would be injured. Preseason isn't the intensity of a real game(not to mention most starters only play a few plays) so reducing preseason won't reduce injuries.
I don't know what else they're arguing about, but seriously just get an independent party to draw the lines since obviously the two sides are both greedy stubborn b*****ds.
Many good points, but college players are proving their worth in college for no pay. So, it's like a minor league. Depending on the cap structure I could see it working but would support it only if more money went into retirement benefits for players who are already retired. These guys retire really young, seldom find as much success out of football, and very often wind up strapped by inflation and medical problems when they hit their seventies/eighties.
A mediator can't make sides agree unless it is binding arbitration. That might be a good way to go but to my knowledge is not being supported. I suppose congress could twist some arms and get it done however.
PS: As for comparing to soccer or other sports I don't know enough to be fair. But I did stay at a holiday inn in London once!
College is still college, there are very few pro-style offenses and so qb's can have schemes that "trick" the other team rather than teaching a qb schemes that would work against pro's. They can also rack up stats against teams that have less talent. Even in big games you're at best playing against mediocre 4th-5th round college guys+a couple 1st round talent rookies.
They might not be making money in college, but most of the 1st round talented guys are on full ride scholarships so it's not like they're PAYING to go to college either. Work at mcdonalds part time till you can make the big bucks like any normal person.
I don't know about soccer, but I watch a lot of hockey, where they have something like a 700-800k rookie capped contract. They get drafted then often actually finish up their degrees for a year unless they're 1st rounders. Most of their contracts are two-way so if you aren't good enough you get sent to the minors where you make only like 50k-100k a year. The best talent will prove that they're worth the huge multi-year deal, while the lesser talent will stick to cheaper contracts.
I hope they do arbitration then, and hopefully that's a quick enough process. They need to quit messing around so we can actually have a season.