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Predictions for new GM?

Originally posted by Gore_21:
From a thread I made over at the 9ers.com board: Keep in mind it's just people to consider, not everyone on the list I want

From Within:
Trent Baalke - 6 seasons with 49ers as personnel point-man, director of college scouting... Personally, I keep him on board as a personnel/scout type and hire an experienced GM. He isn't a free agency type guy to me.
Paraag Marathe - More of a contract negotiations guy, limited football personnel knowledge

Outside the Organization:
Some of these guys have GM jobs or have retired so they might not be an option but could possibly be persuaded to come here.

Floyd Reese - Working with Patriots as advisor, long time Oilers/Titans coach/GM/president
Nick Caserio - Director of Player Personnel with Pats (08-present), WR coach in 07, Director of pro personnel (04-06), scout (03)

Erin Accorsi - Former GM of the Giants, Took them to a SB in 01, put together 07 SB team (Coughlin as well) but retired before 2nd SB
Marc Ross - Took over for Accorsi, Ran Giants drafts since 07, director of college scouting, also with Bills and Eagles.

Ryan Grigson- Director of player personnel for the Eagles
Louis Ridd-i-c-k - Director of Pro Personnel for the Eagles, been scout for them since 08, drafted by 49ers in 91 (9th round)

Reggie McKenzie - Director of Football Operations for Packers, been with Packers since 1994.. started out as pro personnel assistant
John Dorsey - Director of College Scouting for Packers (2000-present), started as college scout (91-97)

Kevin Colbert - GM for Steelers, considered responsible for SB 40 team, Scout for Lions and Dolphins
Omar Khan - Been with Steelers since 01 as capologist and cheif negotiator (like Martahe, limited football personnel experience

Mike Holmgren - Current Browns GM, long time HC with GB/SEA/SF

Bill Parcells - Former GM/president for Dolphins, long time HC with Giants/Pats,etc

Eric DeCosta - Director of Player Personnel for Ravens, Studying under Ozzie Newsome, one of the best GMs out there

Randy Mueller - Current Chargers Senior Executive, also gm for Saints and Dolphins but neither stint lasting more than 3 years... Held various jobs with Seahawks from 83-99

Charlie Casserly - Former GM/executive for Redskins, 23 years and 4 SBs with Redskins... 2000-2006 GM for Texans

Ted Sundquist - Spent 93-2007 with Broncos, director of college scouting when Broncos won back to back SBs, promoted to gm in 02 when ATL and Chicago went after him, finalist for president job in 04 for SEA

Chris Polian - Son of Bill Polian (Bills/Colts long time gm), is current VP and GM for Colts and has helped with all football relations for the past 12 years.

Ronnie Hill - former executive with Atlanta, Jacksonville and Denver, now NFL's VP of football operations, orchestrated trade that brought Vick to ATL

Greg Gabriel - Director of College Scouting for Bears for last 5 years (hired in 01 though), 23 years in NFL, 16 with Giants in scouting department

Good list. These 2 stands out at me for their experience and for getting teams back to respectable even if no SB
I am go on record for DeCosta, Reese or Chris Polian. Anything else is a shot in the dark imo. Those 3 have the best opportunity to succeed and least to fail imo due to experience.
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Originally posted by matt49er:
I'd like to see Holmgren although I don't think he can get out of the Browns situation. Parcells is too old, George Seifort would do a good job IMO. Somone with a lot of experience and a great reputation.

The GM and coaching "searches" shouldn't IMO be too hard this 49ers team has the player personnel to win now. Add a legit QB and we're a 9 win team easily, add a lockdown CB and a bigtime passrusher and this team would be in contention.

The 49ers are still one of only a handful of glory franchises in sports (steelers, cowboys, celtics, lakers, yankess, red sox are the others IMO) with a good team like we have I'm sure a bunch of potential GMs and HCs would love to come here especially those with bay area or 49er ties.

The Walsh Coaching tree is our roadmap for HC selection. Follow the branches.
Originally posted by foreign49er:
Originally posted by montana4ever:
Originally posted by ea_thegreat:
The new GM should sign Norv as OC if he is fired.

Been there, Done that!! Let's move on!!

I actually thought Norv did a good job here. I wouldn't mind seeing him as an OC, just not a HC.

He is one of the best offensive minds in the game and if fired he is doubtful to get another HC shot for another 2-3 years. As an OC he is the best for a young QB and we are likely going to draft one.
I think it will be telling if the new GM has some real brains and character such as Walsh attracted. If you have a toad afficianado like the Yorks, it might mean warts for all. I think the skill level is important but the character and judgment of the man is the most important criteria. Walsh never had nincompoops as hires.
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Joe Thomas gets my pick.

Capn' Bligh!

Sorry Jim. Only you and I -- plus a few other selected folks -- truly get this.

bill parcells
We need an good experienced GM very badly. Donahue, Nolan/McCloughan, Baalke. None of these guys have had legit GM experience when they took the job. One of the factor we have been so bad for so long. All of our guys from front office to HC, DC, OC have been 'training' on the job

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Dec 26, 2010 at 19:05:57 ]
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Originally posted by ClassicNiner:
Originally posted by Envy:
Originally posted by ClassicNiner:
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Originally posted by ClassicNiner:
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Originally posted by 190836:
I think we should ask Jerry Jones for advise, just like the stadium.

Whit??? Ah I see you were joking. Phew....

I don't want anyone from the Steelers or Ravens. I want a WCO GM and I want him to hire a WCO HC. We're the god damn 49ers. Its time to get our heads out of our asses and get back to what we know worked........for TWO DECADES

Bows and arrows and horse-drawn carriages worked for a long time too.

Granted but 500 years of military ingenuity and transport design have little affect on the Quarterback position I would gather. Unless they were names given to audibles?

I don't think going back to the WCO is the answer. I'd like a coach who innovates if possible.

I'm not saying we get out Bill's tapes and start again but I think the WCO is by far as important today as it was 30 years ago. Look how many teams run the system that are dominating the league.

I don't disagree with you, but our current personnel is not a particularly good fit for the WCO. We don't have a WCO QB, receivers who run precise routes and are good in traffic, or a WC O-line. I would like a coach who can make the best out of what we have, with a new QB, of course.

No I accept that and part of me agrees with you. It could be a slow rebuild. The current roster is a bit of a mixed selection with only a few displaying the top end skills for a true WCO but maybe some sort of Power West Coast that we see at Stanford or so. I concur that with the lack of football intelligence on this team the need for innovation from a HC in order to just compete in games is paramount.

Yes, the best thing perhaps about Bill Walsh's teams was how they played smart, and one of the most frustrating and discouraging aspects of the current 9ers is how they play stupid. The dumb penalties, the predictable play calling, all of it is an affront to tradition. So maybe you don't necessarily want or need a total WCO makeover, but just to get the stupid out. At least as a start.
Originally posted by fakers23:
I would look for someone on the Ravens,Steelers,or New England..

How bout from the Eagles. They seem to constantly draft pretty well.
Marty Schottenheimer maybe?
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
From a thread I made over at the 9ers.com board: Keep in mind it's just people to consider, not everyone on the list I want

From Within:
Trent Baalke - 6 seasons with 49ers as personnel point-man, director of college scouting... Personally, I keep him on board as a personnel/scout type and hire an experienced GM. He isn't a free agency type guy to me.
Paraag Marathe - More of a contract negotiations guy, limited football personnel knowledge

Outside the Organization:
Some of these guys have GM jobs or have retired so they might not be an option but could possibly be persuaded to come here.

Floyd Reese - Working with Patriots as advisor, long time Oilers/Titans coach/GM/president
Nick Caserio - Director of Player Personnel with Pats (08-present), WR coach in 07, Director of pro personnel (04-06), scout (03)

Erin Accorsi - Former GM of the Giants, Took them to a SB in 01, put together 07 SB team (Coughlin as well) but retired before 2nd SB
Marc Ross - Took over for Accorsi, Ran Giants drafts since 07, director of college scouting, also with Bills and Eagles.

Ryan Grigson- Director of player personnel for the Eagles
Louis Ridd-i-c-k - Director of Pro Personnel for the Eagles, been scout for them since 08, drafted by 49ers in 91 (9th round)

Reggie McKenzie - Director of Football Operations for Packers, been with Packers since 1994.. started out as pro personnel assistant
John Dorsey - Director of College Scouting for Packers (2000-present), started as college scout (91-97)

Kevin Colbert - GM for Steelers, considered responsible for SB 40 team, Scout for Lions and Dolphins
Omar Khan - Been with Steelers since 01 as capologist and cheif negotiator (like Martahe, limited football personnel experience

Mike Holmgren - Current Browns GM, long time HC with GB/SEA/SF

Bill Parcells - Former GM/president for Dolphins, long time HC with Giants/Pats,etc

Eric DeCosta - Director of Player Personnel for Ravens, Studying under Ozzie Newsome, one of the best GMs out there

Randy Mueller - Current Chargers Senior Executive, also gm for Saints and Dolphins but neither stint lasting more than 3 years... Held various jobs with Seahawks from 83-99

Charlie Casserly - Former GM/executive for Redskins, 23 years and 4 SBs with Redskins... 2000-2006 GM for Texans

Ted Sundquist - Spent 93-2007 with Broncos, director of college scouting when Broncos won back to back SBs, promoted to gm in 02 when ATL and Chicago went after him, finalist for president job in 04 for SEA

Chris Polian - Son of Bill Polian (Bills/Colts long time gm), is current VP and GM for Colts and has helped with all football relations for the past 12 years.

Ronnie Hill - former executive with Atlanta, Jacksonville and Denver, now NFL's VP of football operations, orchestrated trade that brought Vick to ATL

Greg Gabriel - Director of College Scouting for Bears for last 5 years (hired in 01 though), 23 years in NFL, 16 with Giants in scouting department

Good list. These 2 stands out at me for their experience and for getting teams back to respectable even if no SB

Then Floyd Reese should stand out to you as well.
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by fakers23:
I would look for someone on the Ravens,Steelers,or New England..

How bout from the Eagles. They seem to constantly draft pretty well.

Good shout.
We should have been interviewing or looking at potential GM's weeks ago. Whoever we get, we need in here pronto because if he is going to hire a new head coach he needs to get started right away before the top candidates are swooped up!!!
Originally posted by ClassicNiner:
[Yes, the best thing perhaps about Bill Walsh's teams was how they played smart, and one of the most frustrating and discouraging aspects of the current 9ers is how they play stupid. The dumb penalties, the predictable play calling, all of it is an affront to tradition. So maybe you don't necessarily want or need a total WCO makeover, but just to get the stupid out. At least as a start.

I think, "Get the Stupid Out" should be the 9ers new motto.