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Nate Davis thread

Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

LOL! Good comeback.
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

LOL! Good comeback.

so because he coaches high school kids that makes his his argument justified
Originally posted by mrgneissguy:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

The Ball State Stadium is within about 5 miles from my house. I, my wife and my two daughters watched him play for three years. We watched him develop from a freshman getting 2 or 3 series a game, to a freshman starting against Michigan in Michigan (and scaring the hell out of the Wolverine faithful). I watched him play at Nebraska and lead the team to over 40 points. We watched him lead a successful aerial attack during his sophomore year when the coaches had to resort to converting linebackers into running backs due to injury (try being a successful quarterback without a true running back). We watched him all the way through his junior year leading a team that normally considers a 7-5 season a success finish the regular season 12-0 and nationally ranked for the first time in school history. We watched that same team finish this season with only 2 wins without him.

I've seen him make throws that very few QBs at any level can make. I've seen him throw with touch, I've seen him throw it 15+ yards on a rope to a receiver outside the numbers. I've seen him throw it 50+ yards for a touchdown across his body, off his back foot, while scrambling. And to those folks worried about his height (he's maybe an inch shorter than the prototypical QB), he has a very high release point. And to those worried about the laces thing, he throws a tighter and more consistent spiral than Peyton Manning (Being in the same state, I've seen him play an awful lot as well).

He may not be a great QB in the NFL, as there is more to it than just throwing. But from a pure throwing ability standpoint, he is by far the best on the team.

And then there was preseason. One can argue about the opposition, but the only way to find out is to play him.

We pretty much know about Smith and Hill. Let's see if the team has to spend a draft pick on a QB.

I would like him to play some in the last two games, treating them as a pre-preseason. But, only if he has been getting some reps in practice to where he knows the plays. If he hasn't, then play him a limited number of reps with the plays he does practice.

Does anyone really care if the team is 8-8 or 7-9? It means nothing. The owner says the coaches are coming back, so they don't have to worry.

Smith's sensibilities? Play well, play better than Davis. Teams shuffle guards, DBs, everyone, all the time. QBs can do that and survive mentally. If not, then they weren't going to make it anyway.
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.
Originally posted by Thorhawk:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

How are you not in the 49ers front office

With two games left vs. Lions and Rams (combined 3 wins total), I'd like to see Davis get some PT, whether it's the second half or even just the 4th qtr. If he succeeds this early in his development, then great! If not, at least he has some experience. After all, being eliminated from the Playoffs, we don't have much more to lose. So, I say give the kid a chance. If Smith gets benched during a game or injured next season, Davis may very well be our #2 QB who steps in.
Originally posted by susweel:
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.

Neither is the rest of the NFL. Hence, the late 5th round selection.

At the same time, he'll get more reps in 2010, and that will help the board crown him as the new king, or crush him into the pavement.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.

Neither is the rest of the NFL. Hence, the late 5th round selection.

At the same time, he'll get more reps in 2010, and that will help the board crown him as the new king, or crush him into the pavement.

Yah the back up QB always has large fan base. Remember the days of

CODY CODY CODY CODY
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

LMAO.

-9fA
I'm eager to see Davis in OTA's and TC, after this season of observation and adjustment to the pro game. I don't expect Davis to be a viable candidate for the starting QB job in 2010, but why not 2011?

I've lost confidence in Smith's ability to become "that guy". Smith is tough, smart, athletic, young, and reslient. All admirable qualities for an NFL starting QB. But I'm now convinced that he will never demonstrate "it". Like pornograhy, "it" is hard to define, but you know it when you see it. I'm going to try to define it as a combination of swagger, self-confidence, and the ability to raise the level of those playing around him. This is what I cannot find in Smith, whereas Davis seems to exude these latter qualities in his limited appearances (admittedly vs scrubs).

I respect Shawn Hill as a most capable back-up, but we have all seen that he has topped-out in terms of what he can do performance-wise, and that's not good enough to consistently stretch-out NFL-caliber defenses. So, since i want to see the club use its high draft picks on other positional needs (not QB), and since I don't like the list of available veteran FA QB's, as being any betterb than Smith, the development of Davis by Mike Johnson, is a topic of great ongoing interest to me.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.

Neither is the rest of the NFL. Hence, the late 5th round selection.

At the same time, he'll get more reps in 2010, and that will help the board crown him as the new king, or crush him into the pavement.

The problem the rest of the NFL had with him was his Dilexia and ADHD. If you look at his college tapes on U Tube or read what people like Jerry Rice and Donovan McNabb say he is the real deal. ADHD, one of the main advantages of having the disorder is the ability to thrive in crisis and chaotic environments. Perfect for being a NFL QB.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.

Neither is the rest of the NFL. Hence, the late 5th round selection.

At the same time, he'll get more reps in 2010, and that will help the board crown him as the new king, or crush him into the pavement.

Which was one round ahead of Tom Brady. But at least he got drafted, which is more than Tony Romo can say.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Im not very high on Nate Davis as other people are. I need to see more of him.

Neither is the rest of the NFL. Hence, the late 5th round selection.

At the same time, he'll get more reps in 2010, and that will help the board crown him as the new king, or crush him into the pavement.

Yah the back up QB always has large fan base. Remember the days of

CODY CODY CODY CODY

I even remember the days of George Mira.
Originally posted by mrgneissguy:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DesiDez:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
They need to start getting him qb reps in practice.

Off the field he is best thrower of the bunch

Based on?

Reality

So you have no justification at all.

Watched Davis play at Ball State on ESPN at least 4 times last year and all his preseason games.

Plus I've played ball my entire life and I currently coach high school and run football camps year round so before you try to push your "Veteran" status from a message board, I would stfu

The Ball State Stadium is within about 5 miles from my house. I, my wife and my two daughters watched him play for three years. We watched him develop from a freshman getting 2 or 3 series a game, to a freshman starting against Michigan in Michigan (and scaring the hell out of the Wolverine faithful). I watched him play at Nebraska and lead the team to over 40 points. We watched him lead a successful aerial attack during his sophomore year when the coaches had to resort to converting linebackers into running backs due to injury (try being a successful quarterback without a true running back). We watched him all the way through his junior year leading a team that normally considers a 7-5 season a success finish the regular season 12-0 and nationally ranked for the first time in school history. We watched that same team finish this season with only 2 wins without him.

I've seen him make throws that very few QBs at any level can make. I've seen him throw with touch, I've seen him throw it 15+ yards on a rope to a receiver outside the numbers. I've seen him throw it 50+ yards for a touchdown across his body, off his back foot, while scrambling. And to those folks worried about his height (he's maybe an inch shorter than the prototypical QB), he has a very high release point. And to those worried about the laces thing, he throws a tighter and more consistent spiral than Peyton Manning (Being in the same state, I've seen him play an awful lot as well).

He may not be a great QB in the NFL, as there is more to it than just throwing. But from a pure throwing ability standpoint, he is by far the best on the team.

ive heard all this too and I do hope Nate is our Future QB, but not next season. I want him to progress behind the scenes.

2010: Alex Smith, Starter; Nate Davis, No. 2.

i hope alex lights it up next year in the same offense, but no one expects it. If he does not, I'll be on the bandwagon for Nate Davis 2011.
[ Edited by darkknight49 on Dec 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM ]
Originally posted by susweel:

...Yah the back up QB always has large fan base...

Not in Indy