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Nate Davis thread

I know Nate hasnt played...yet. But his rocket arm alone needs a better look. We the niners, are in no position to leave any questions about quarterbacks unanswered. HE might need some confidence to grow on as well, going into the offseason. As plan B of course. We already know what Alex cant do. Give Nate a quarter of play and risk basically nothing. He could be further along than Alex mechanically, and mentally and some of you might be afraid of the truth? Afraid of quarterback competition, between a big questionmark still to this day, versus a possible diamond in the rough? No competition, Alex will start 2010. period. It is possible for a first year rookie to look like a pro, in an NFL game. Yes, he is dyslexic, just like Frank Gore, I dont see much of a problem here. He might show us all why he hasnt played, and end this argument today, about his readiness. We dont know, and we wont know unless we throw him out to the...Rams? Perfect! Jerry Rice would like to see him play, and so would I. We need less questions about our players going into this offseason. Remember, complacency sucks, lets try to get better sooner than later.
[ Edited by TheCatch on Dec 27, 2009 at 6:58 AM ]
all i'm hoping for is that we dump Hill and let Davis take over the #2 spot. during the upcoming off season. I seriously doubt he gets a snap on the final two games. He hasn't even practiced at QB all year.
Come on man I know Kory Sheets looked really good against those 2nd stringers but he hasn't done anything in the NFL. Preseason is not NFL football, just ask Coffee. So let's wait until he actually does something before you crown him the greatest RB in NFL history.

Now replace
Kory Sheets with Nate Davis
2nd with 3rd
RB with QB

you all b***h about Sheets getting too much love yet N Davis is god on these boards
Originally posted by TheCatch:
I know Nate hasnt played...yet. But his rocket arm alone needs a better look. We the niners, are in no position to leave any questions about quarterbacks unanswered. HE might need some confidence to grow on as well, going into the offseason. As plan B of course. We already know what Alex cant do. Give Nate a quarter of play and risk basically nothing. He could be further along than Alex mechanically, and mentally and some of you might be afraid of the truth? Afraid of quarterback competition, between a big questionmark still to this day, versus a possible diamond in the rough? No competition, Alex will start 2010. period. It is possible for a first year rookie to look like a pro, in an NFL game. Yes, he is dislexic, just like Frank Gore, I dont see much of a problem here. He might show us all why he hasnt played, and end this argument today, about his readiness. We dont know, and we wont know unless we throw him out to the...Rams? Perfect! Jerry Rice would like to see him play, and so would I. We need less questions about our players going into this offseason. Remember, compacency sucks, lets try to get better sooner than later.
Davis will not get any PT this season. He hasn't had any time at QB since pre-season ended. He plays wide receiverr or db on the scout team most of the time. His time will come after an intensive off-season learning the system, followed by training camp. Michael Robinson is more likely to see QB time than Davis.

Singletary has already stated that the balance of this season will be given over to Alex Smith. Smith HAS had some time, though limited, with the first team. You may not have much regard for Smith at this point but clearly the 49ers have much invested and recognize his improvement over two years ago and his lack of first team reps through all of TC and pre-season.

Davis' chance comes next year. He is an intriguing prospect but one that will take careful development that will not be well-served by being thrown into a game prematurely.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
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Huh? Marc freaking Bulger would do better. Jason Campbell who is a FA next year would do much better. Colt McCoy just because he could get 40 rushing yards a game could do as good and probably better. Great thing about that uncapped year next year get Campbell or some decent QB to step in, draft a guy like Colt so he can mature as he holds a clipboard. Our O-line pass blocking wize isn't horrible it's decent enough to get the job done, but mos def can get better, the real problem with the O-line is the consistency with the run blocking. We have multiple problems, but problem #1 is the QB, we don't have a good one. Our secondary is good enough to shut down Larry Fitzgerald, like what every single time we play him, least since Nate got here anyway. And if we draft well enough next year, or some one slips through the cracks in FA we can fix that pass rush problem since we get enough of those other guy sacks, ie the 5+ sack department, like Man-Law and Parys or even Brooks, we just need our own Suggs or Orakpo, etc. Problem 1 get a new signal caller.

You think the OL is decent? They're not that good. The secondary may be good enough to shut down fitz, but they didnt shut down Roddy White, Reggie Wayne, Desean Jackson, Greg Jennings, Tim Hightower even, Owen Daniels, Dallas Clark has 99 yards against the team. They've allowed more than 260 yards passing by the opposing team 9 times, 7 for more than 300 yards.

Bulger can't stay healthy. That would do the team no good. Campbell is just as inconsistent as smith is. Colt McCoy? Seriously? What big game has he won? Smith had more yards rushing in college than McCoy does.

QB is a concern, but it's not No. 1. OL, then Secondary/Pass Rush and PR/KR are the big ones. Those can make up for sub-par qb play. If the QB can't be protected, and the Secondary can't catch the opposing receivers and the PRs keep fumbling the Ball, a good QB won't be able to make up for it.


Campbell has had a good year were have you been, whenever he's been given a shot he's delivered. A good QB and we're in the Playoffs, we win in GB, we beat Philly, we beat the Colts, we beat the Titans, hell how many close games have we had, we just don't have a QB to win those games, well we did then Hill stopped playing football for whatever reason then we were screwed. Our defense is not the big problem, we just need to tweak and add a few things, hell we shut down AP and the Cards 2ce, and held an undefeated team to under 20 at their place. We have Staley and Heitmann, we just need to fill in the blanks, guards and right tackles don't usually cost much and we don't give up Green Bay type sacks anyways and we can run the ball well enough. Smith ran in a spread, any one can run with wheels QB's/RB's in a spread hell ask Edge James ie his Indy experience, and McCoy throws much more he just runs when he has to or sees room. Bottom line we need a quarterback, that is our biggest problem, and our biggest weakness.

ok, campbell has had an ok year. Hes got only two more INTs and TDs than smith with 5 more games played. Hes had some really good games (i.e. NO, DET) but some really bad ones too (i.e. KC, TB, NYG). Smith has been made foolish against good teams and he's done well against bad teams.

Run defense has been good all year and the plan was great against Indy but they are still giving up too many big plays and not getting enought turnovers. you say Smith doest come through in the clutch, well there isn't a player on D that does that either.

Those times where he's looked bad are the times where the rest of the team needs to step up and they havent done that all year really. This is why i believe that other aspects of the team need to be addressed first. Build a proper support group around the QB and help make the QB what he needs to be.

Once Campbell had actual NFL plays called for him (ie plays not called by Jim Zorn), he showed he's a good QB. Smith is not a good QB, we need a good one, we have the WR's and TE's and a decent enough line, hell A-Rod the guys we shoulda woulda coulda has no line with the guys to throw to and should be a Pro Bowler this year he's a stud. Alex is a dud, we need a new qb, if we had hell probably even Jeff Garcia assuming he can still play we would be in the Playoffs this year, let alone a Campbell or even A-Rod...

No we wouldn't. Not with that line. Put whoever you want there and the result will be the same:

Goodnight Vienna!

Funny how that makes no sense, cuz both Campbell and A-Rod have worse lines, but are playing better and much better then Alex, respectively.

Yeah yeah yeah. You pop over there and sign either of them, then.

Then we will see how they look behind our line

GBs line did look better then ours when we played each oher, and Rogers has the best YAC WR in the NFL.

Jason C is nothing special and is not an upgrade, your crazy if you think he is. Redskins need a QB bad, so if he was any good why would they drop him?

ANY analysis of Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith that considers the OL but not also the receiving corp is fatally flawed. With the return to health of Chad Clifton the GB line is performing very well, and none of the 49er receivers would start in GB. In fact, of the wide outs, only Crabtree would even make the roster! Vernon Davis would be only the BLOCKING TE in GB. Michael Finley is the much better pass receiver.

The 49ers receivers are very over-rated on this board. Rodgers has a FAR greater supporting cast in GB. The best thing the 49ers can do right now is give Smith and Crabtree, Morgan and Jason Hill some time together to see what they CAN do. Adding Nate Davis to the mix with 5 or 6 plays will not help the young WRs at all.
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Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by English:
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Huh? Marc freaking Bulger would do better. Jason Campbell who is a FA next year would do much better. Colt McCoy just because he could get 40 rushing yards a game could do as good and probably better. Great thing about that uncapped year next year get Campbell or some decent QB to step in, draft a guy like Colt so he can mature as he holds a clipboard. Our O-line pass blocking wize isn't horrible it's decent enough to get the job done, but mos def can get better, the real problem with the O-line is the consistency with the run blocking. We have multiple problems, but problem #1 is the QB, we don't have a good one. Our secondary is good enough to shut down Larry Fitzgerald, like what every single time we play him, least since Nate got here anyway. And if we draft well enough next year, or some one slips through the cracks in FA we can fix that pass rush problem since we get enough of those other guy sacks, ie the 5+ sack department, like Man-Law and Parys or even Brooks, we just need our own Suggs or Orakpo, etc. Problem 1 get a new signal caller.

You think the OL is decent? They're not that good. The secondary may be good enough to shut down fitz, but they didnt shut down Roddy White, Reggie Wayne, Desean Jackson, Greg Jennings, Tim Hightower even, Owen Daniels, Dallas Clark has 99 yards against the team. They've allowed more than 260 yards passing by the opposing team 9 times, 7 for more than 300 yards.

Bulger can't stay healthy. That would do the team no good. Campbell is just as inconsistent as smith is. Colt McCoy? Seriously? What big game has he won? Smith had more yards rushing in college than McCoy does.

QB is a concern, but it's not No. 1. OL, then Secondary/Pass Rush and PR/KR are the big ones. Those can make up for sub-par qb play. If the QB can't be protected, and the Secondary can't catch the opposing receivers and the PRs keep fumbling the Ball, a good QB won't be able to make up for it.


Campbell has had a good year were have you been, whenever he's been given a shot he's delivered. A good QB and we're in the Playoffs, we win in GB, we beat Philly, we beat the Colts, we beat the Titans, hell how many close games have we had, we just don't have a QB to win those games, well we did then Hill stopped playing football for whatever reason then we were screwed. Our defense is not the big problem, we just need to tweak and add a few things, hell we shut down AP and the Cards 2ce, and held an undefeated team to under 20 at their place. We have Staley and Heitmann, we just need to fill in the blanks, guards and right tackles don't usually cost much and we don't give up Green Bay type sacks anyways and we can run the ball well enough. Smith ran in a spread, any one can run with wheels QB's/RB's in a spread hell ask Edge James ie his Indy experience, and McCoy throws much more he just runs when he has to or sees room. Bottom line we need a quarterback, that is our biggest problem, and our biggest weakness.

ok, campbell has had an ok year. Hes got only two more INTs and TDs than smith with 5 more games played. Hes had some really good games (i.e. NO, DET) but some really bad ones too (i.e. KC, TB, NYG). Smith has been made foolish against good teams and he's done well against bad teams.

Run defense has been good all year and the plan was great against Indy but they are still giving up too many big plays and not getting enought turnovers. you say Smith doest come through in the clutch, well there isn't a player on D that does that either.

Those times where he's looked bad are the times where the rest of the team needs to step up and they havent done that all year really. This is why i believe that other aspects of the team need to be addressed first. Build a proper support group around the QB and help make the QB what he needs to be.

Once Campbell had actual NFL plays called for him (ie plays not called by Jim Zorn), he showed he's a good QB. Smith is not a good QB, we need a good one, we have the WR's and TE's and a decent enough line, hell A-Rod the guys we shoulda woulda coulda has no line with the guys to throw to and should be a Pro Bowler this year he's a stud. Alex is a dud, we need a new qb, if we had hell probably even Jeff Garcia assuming he can still play we would be in the Playoffs this year, let alone a Campbell or even A-Rod...

No we wouldn't. Not with that line. Put whoever you want there and the result will be the same:

Goodnight Vienna!

Funny how that makes no sense, cuz both Campbell and A-Rod have worse lines, but are playing better and much better then Alex, respectively.

Yeah yeah yeah. You pop over there and sign either of them, then.

Then we will see how they look behind our line

GBs line did look better then ours when we played each oher, and Rogers has the best YAC WR in the NFL.

Jason C is nothing special and is not an upgrade, your crazy if you think he is. Redskins need a QB bad, so if he was any good why would they drop him?

ANY analysis of Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith that considers the OL but not also the receiving corp is fatally flawed. With the return to health of Chad Clifton the GB line is performing very well, and none of the 49er receivers would start in GB. In fact, of the wide outs, only Crabtree would even make the roster! Vernon Davis would be only the BLOCKING TE in GB. Michael Finley is the much better pass receiver.

The 49ers receivers are very over-rated on this board. Rodgers has a FAR greater supporting cast in GB. The best thing the 49ers can do right now is give Smith and Crabtree, Morgan and Jason Hill some time together to see what they CAN do. Adding Nate Davis to the mix with 5 or 6 plays will not help the young WRs at all.

Good analysis and at the same timie isn't the core question one of the QBs as opposed to the Wr's? If so, is it safe to say that you ae making an assumption? Maybe a rational one, but one none the less? Yes, it has been doccumented that Davis has not recieved any first team reps and fans logically conlude that Davis is not ready for prime time. But how should we measure readiness?

Davis seemes ready during the pre-season. Yes it was not against the NFL's best, but he still out performed the others even though he too was playing WITH non starters WITHOUT first team snaps. It should follow that he maybe able to do the same with more talent playing with him on the first team.

Your position maybe the best one. Despite his strog showing in pre-season, maybe he simply is not ready. Then my question becomes, why? Someone throughout the season should have envisioned a scenario where the team would not make the playoffs with two games left. Why wouldn't a coaching staff not have Davis ready to play the last two meaningless games of the season against two of the worst teams in the NFL?

My thoughts are that someone of authority is protecting the hopes of Alex progressing to become the QB needed to win a championship.
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by English:
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Originally posted by darkknight49:
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Huh? Marc freaking Bulger would do better. Jason Campbell who is a FA next year would do much better. Colt McCoy just because he could get 40 rushing yards a game could do as good and probably better. Great thing about that uncapped year next year get Campbell or some decent QB to step in, draft a guy like Colt so he can mature as he holds a clipboard. Our O-line pass blocking wize isn't horrible it's decent enough to get the job done, but mos def can get better, the real problem with the O-line is the consistency with the run blocking. We have multiple problems, but problem #1 is the QB, we don't have a good one. Our secondary is good enough to shut down Larry Fitzgerald, like what every single time we play him, least since Nate got here anyway. And if we draft well enough next year, or some one slips through the cracks in FA we can fix that pass rush problem since we get enough of those other guy sacks, ie the 5+ sack department, like Man-Law and Parys or even Brooks, we just need our own Suggs or Orakpo, etc. Problem 1 get a new signal caller.

You think the OL is decent? They're not that good. The secondary may be good enough to shut down fitz, but they didnt shut down Roddy White, Reggie Wayne, Desean Jackson, Greg Jennings, Tim Hightower even, Owen Daniels, Dallas Clark has 99 yards against the team. They've allowed more than 260 yards passing by the opposing team 9 times, 7 for more than 300 yards.

Bulger can't stay healthy. That would do the team no good. Campbell is just as inconsistent as smith is. Colt McCoy? Seriously? What big game has he won? Smith had more yards rushing in college than McCoy does.

QB is a concern, but it's not No. 1. OL, then Secondary/Pass Rush and PR/KR are the big ones. Those can make up for sub-par qb play. If the QB can't be protected, and the Secondary can't catch the opposing receivers and the PRs keep fumbling the Ball, a good QB won't be able to make up for it.


Campbell has had a good year were have you been, whenever he's been given a shot he's delivered. A good QB and we're in the Playoffs, we win in GB, we beat Philly, we beat the Colts, we beat the Titans, hell how many close games have we had, we just don't have a QB to win those games, well we did then Hill stopped playing football for whatever reason then we were screwed. Our defense is not the big problem, we just need to tweak and add a few things, hell we shut down AP and the Cards 2ce, and held an undefeated team to under 20 at their place. We have Staley and Heitmann, we just need to fill in the blanks, guards and right tackles don't usually cost much and we don't give up Green Bay type sacks anyways and we can run the ball well enough. Smith ran in a spread, any one can run with wheels QB's/RB's in a spread hell ask Edge James ie his Indy experience, and McCoy throws much more he just runs when he has to or sees room. Bottom line we need a quarterback, that is our biggest problem, and our biggest weakness.

ok, campbell has had an ok year. Hes got only two more INTs and TDs than smith with 5 more games played. Hes had some really good games (i.e. NO, DET) but some really bad ones too (i.e. KC, TB, NYG). Smith has been made foolish against good teams and he's done well against bad teams.

Run defense has been good all year and the plan was great against Indy but they are still giving up too many big plays and not getting enought turnovers. you say Smith doest come through in the clutch, well there isn't a player on D that does that either.

Those times where he's looked bad are the times where the rest of the team needs to step up and they havent done that all year really. This is why i believe that other aspects of the team need to be addressed first. Build a proper support group around the QB and help make the QB what he needs to be.

Once Campbell had actual NFL plays called for him (ie plays not called by Jim Zorn), he showed he's a good QB. Smith is not a good QB, we need a good one, we have the WR's and TE's and a decent enough line, hell A-Rod the guys we shoulda woulda coulda has no line with the guys to throw to and should be a Pro Bowler this year he's a stud. Alex is a dud, we need a new qb, if we had hell probably even Jeff Garcia assuming he can still play we would be in the Playoffs this year, let alone a Campbell or even A-Rod...

No we wouldn't. Not with that line. Put whoever you want there and the result will be the same:

Goodnight Vienna!

Funny how that makes no sense, cuz both Campbell and A-Rod have worse lines, but are playing better and much better then Alex, respectively.

Yeah yeah yeah. You pop over there and sign either of them, then.

Then we will see how they look behind our line

GBs line did look better then ours when we played each oher, and Rogers has the best YAC WR in the NFL.

Jason C is nothing special and is not an upgrade, your crazy if you think he is. Redskins need a QB bad, so if he was any good why would they drop him?

ANY analysis of Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith that considers the OL but not also the receiving corp is fatally flawed. With the return to health of Chad Clifton the GB line is performing very well, and none of the 49er receivers would start in GB. In fact, of the wide outs, only Crabtree would even make the roster! Vernon Davis would be only the BLOCKING TE in GB. Michael Finley is the much better pass receiver.

The 49ers receivers are very over-rated on this board. Rodgers has a FAR greater supporting cast in GB. The best thing the 49ers can do right now is give Smith and Crabtree, Morgan and Jason Hill some time together to see what they CAN do. Adding Nate Davis to the mix with 5 or 6 plays will not help the young WRs at all.

Good analysis and at the same timie isn't the core question one of the QBs as opposed to the Wr's? If so, is it safe to say that you ae making an assumption? Maybe a rational one, but one none the less? Yes, it has been doccumented that Davis has not recieved any first team reps and fans logically conlude that Davis is not ready for prime time. But how should we measure readiness?

Davis seemes ready during the pre-season. Yes it was not against the NFL's best, but he still out performed the others even though he too was playing WITH non starters WITHOUT first team snaps. It should follow that he maybe able to do the same with more talent playing with him on the first team.

Your position maybe the best one. Despite his strog showing in pre-season, maybe he simply is not ready. Then my question becomes, why? Someone throughout the season should have envisioned a scenario where the team would not make the playoffs with two games left. Why wouldn't a coaching staff not have Davis ready to play the last two meaningless games of the season against two of the worst teams in the NFL?

My thoughts are that someone of authority is protecting the hopes of Alex progressing to become the QB needed to win a championship.

Good questions.

In PS the main issues were:
1. Get Shaun Hill prepared to run the Raye"smash mouth" offense. Hill took ALL the reps with the first team for virtually the entire TC and pre-season.

2. Get Alex Smith prepared to be the primary backup. He took all the reps with second team.

3. See what Nate Davis looked like. It was known from the beginning that his learning disability would limit his PT to a minimum. Even in those final two games, he was given only six plays to run. They were the only ones he knew well enough to run.

Once the regular season begins, no team gives any reps to the third string guy unless one of the others becomes injured and can't perform in practice. Unlike TC, teams only have "live"practice for a max of two days, the rest of the time is sweats or walk-throughs. The third string guy gets nothing.

For the same reason, Alex Smith has received very little time with the first team until Hill was benched as well. Now also take away the time lost this year with the thumb injury, and the fact he lost the previous two years with the shoulder problems, and you have another guy who must have reps to decide his future with the team.

Bottom line; Davis, or any other third string QB around the league, hasn't made much progress as a QB since the regular season started. That is just the way it is.

I am intrigued by Davis. He appeared to have some nice physical tools. However, I also know he would not be ready for more than a series or two at the most.

In the meantime, even though there are some year who do not believe Smith will ever be the guy, circumstances have dictated that decision is clearly not been made yet by the coaches. Smith needs, and deserves, to have these last two games to see if he is the guy.

Hill will most likely be allowed to leave if he wants. It is clear he is not the future. In the off-season, whether Smith proves to be the future or not, Davis will have plenty of time to learn the system and be able to take the field next pre-season with a full deck instead of a single hand.
Hil and Davis battle for back up next year with smith No. 1. i think that would be the best course.
lol people here are calling nate davis a possible diamond in the rough but the fact is he is as big a question mark as alex smith. as much as i want to drink the kool aid with the rest of you all, my sense of reality isnt fogging up my thought about the 49ers qb situation. and the reality is nate davis is not ready to be a starting qb just yet.
We never know what you have till it is tried. We use the learning disability or bad O/l as excuses not to start Davis. The fact remains some players have it some don't. We'll never know if all we see is that player sitting the sideline. I think Davis needs to be elevated to #2 back up and allow him to work with some of the starters, next season.
Originally posted by TRAVELER_9ER:
We never know what you have till it is tried. We use the learning disability or bad O/l as excuses not to start Davis. The fact remains some players have it some don't. We'll never know if all we see is that player sitting the sideline. I think Davis needs to be elevated to #2 back up and allow him to work with some of the starters, next season.

You will almost certainly get your wish.
Originally posted by TRAVELER_9ER:
We never know what you have till it is tried. We use the learning disability or bad O/l as excuses not to start Davis. The fact remains some players have it some don't. We'll never know if all we see is that player sitting the sideline. I think Davis needs to be elevated to #2 back up and allow him to work with some of the starters, next season.

Absolutely. I loved what I saw in pre-season and sure he may need to learn the plays and get an off season to fully understand the system. But if they are even going to play the learning disability card then they are bigger idiots for wasting the draft pick

My thoughts are that he has better physical tools and mental tools than either Smith or Hill. An offseason and the same attention that the team wasted on Smith he will be a much better QB.

That is based on what I witnessed in the pre-season and the fact that Mcnabb also has faith in the kid. Hell they don't even know who Smith is and he is almost in year 6. Go niners and honestly what has Alex got to prove against two of the worst teams in the NFL. He has more to lose if he stinks it up. I think Nate Davis the 6 plays he knows (qouted in another post) could probably beat Detroit and St. Louis.

Go Niners.
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by TRAVELER_9ER:
We never know what you have till it is tried. We use the learning disability or bad O/l as excuses not to start Davis. The fact remains some players have it some don't. We'll never know if all we see is that player sitting the sideline. I think Davis needs to be elevated to #2 back up and allow him to work with some of the starters, next season.

Absolutely. I loved what I saw in pre-season and sure he may need to learn the plays and get an off season to fully understand the system. But if they are even going to play the learning disability card then they are bigger idiots for wasting the draft pick

My thoughts are that he has better physical tools and mental tools than either Smith or Hill. An offseason and the same attention that the team wasted on Smith he will be a much better QB.

That is based on what I witnessed in the pre-season and the fact that Mcnabb also has faith in the kid. Hell they don't even know who Smith is and he is almost in year 6. Go niners and honestly what has Alex got to prove against two of the worst teams in the NFL. He has more to lose if he stinks it up. I think Nate Davis the 6 plays he knows (qouted in another post) could probably beat Detroit and St. Louis.

Go Niners.

How do you know Nate has better physical and mental tools than Alex? You're a fan, not an NFL scout. You would probably think best to understand why Nate only knows/knew six plays. He fell so far, because his intelligence was a huge issue.(not his dyslexia) Alex over thinks plays and I see it as Nate isn't able to think enough.(ball state is good I hear) Nate Davis isn't the 2nd coming of Tom Brady so leave it be. A diamond in the rough is still a diamond, Nate is just a rock.
Originally posted by Peanut49:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by TRAVELER_9ER:
We never know what you have till it is tried. We use the learning disability or bad O/l as excuses not to start Davis. The fact remains some players have it some don't. We'll never know if all we see is that player sitting the sideline. I think Davis needs to be elevated to #2 back up and allow him to work with some of the starters, next season.

Absolutely. I loved what I saw in pre-season and sure he may need to learn the plays and get an off season to fully understand the system. But if they are even going to play the learning disability card then they are bigger idiots for wasting the draft pick

My thoughts are that he has better physical tools and mental tools than either Smith or Hill. An offseason and the same attention that the team wasted on Smith he will be a much better QB.

That is based on what I witnessed in the pre-season and the fact that Mcnabb also has faith in the kid. Hell they don't even know who Smith is and he is almost in year 6. Go niners and honestly what has Alex got to prove against two of the worst teams in the NFL. He has more to lose if he stinks it up. I think Nate Davis the 6 plays he knows (qouted in another post) could probably beat Detroit and St. Louis.

Go Niners.

How do you know Nate has better physical and mental tools than Alex? You're a fan, not an NFL scout. You would probably think best to understand why Nate only knows/knew six plays. He fell so far, because his intelligence was a huge issue.(not his dyslexia) Alex over thinks plays and I see it as Nate isn't able to think enough.(ball state is good I hear) Nate Davis isn't the 2nd coming of Tom Brady so leave it be. A diamond in the rough is still a diamond, Nate is just a rock.

But...but...but he wants it to be true...it just has to be true...just has to be...