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Justin Smiley had a great game tonight

  • GEEK
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Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by GEEK:
It doesn't just stop at Nolan. McCloughan has stated that he won't break the bank for guards on the market.

When we let Smiley go, we had Larry Allen at the LG position, and David Baas in the wings for the RG position. The move made sense to play the 2nd round prospect over resigning Smiley, but we are paying for it now.

I'd say Baas has a 30% chance of resigning with the 49ers this offseason, and we'll have Wragge, Snyder, or a draft pick compete for the LG spot in 2010.

So far Baas has shown NOTHING that would justify resigning him for much more than the minimum. He is slow, has poor footwork, rarely gets downfield on running plays. He just isn't a very good player. It seems the 49ers are giving him every opportunity to play himself into shape after missing a lot of camp.

However, to go back to the decision, we can clearly see now that the 49ers were wrong in their assessment. We can see that Baas does not have the talent to justifiy his high selection. He is the same player now he was two years ago.

Nolan didn't complain about Smiley as much as he just said he wanted bigger players on the OL. Well, how's that working out?

Truth is, the 49ers tossed aside a #2 draft pick because he wasn't big enough. Bill Parcells knew better and grabbed him right away. I think I'll go with Parcells assessment right now if that is OK with everyone here.

LOL. Complaining about not signing Smiley for big time money right after Gore just ran for over 200 yards and 2 TD's is pretty damn funny.

Gore would not have had this performance if it was against the Cards or Vikings. The Seahawks D was pretty banged up, missing Mebane, Hill, and Trufant.

Baas did an okay job against the Seahawks, but he's just not a starting OG in this league.
Smiley signed a 5-yr. $25 mil. contract. As good as he was, would anyone here who supports Smiley believe that's a fair contract or beyond what he's worth? I think it's pricey for an OG and didn't see SF offering him a similar contract before he hit FA, but I did like him as a player. Did McNolan even try to extend his contract early like they've done for several other players?
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Smiley signed a 5-yr. $25 mil. contract. As good as he was, would anyone here who supports Smiley believe that's a fair contract or beyond what he's worth? I think it's pricey for an OG and didn't see SF offering him a similar contract before he hit FA, but I did like him as a player. Did McNolan even try to extend his contract early like they've done for several other players?

I don't think so Scotty believed spending money on OG's is worthless and they could be found anywhere.
's a natural fit in that Wildcat.
Dwelling in the past
It is the fault of the Niners. When they saw Smiley was good, they should have locked him up a year BEFORE FA, just like the Steelers do. It is why the team is always re building, letting Julian Peterson and David Baas go via FA is dumb. They replaced them with first round picks in Lawson and Baas. They should have stuck with the know in Peterson and S,miley and drafted other positions. That is how you build a winner.
Yah he looked good yesterday but he pretty much sucked his last year in SF. I dont really blame them for letting him walk.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Yah he looked good yesterday but he pretty much sucked his last year in SF. I dont really blame them for letting him walk.

He did not play as poorly as some think. The problem was the game plans and schemes were so bad, everyone looked lousy. In prior years he was ranked as one of the better young guards in the league. However, a shoulder injury that required surgery cost him an off-season of conditioning and then along came Hostler and Co.

However, Indy is not chopped liver and he played lights out. Also, last year he was about to be placed on the Pro Bowl ballot until he broke his leg - he had played that well for Miami.

So the question must be asked; who was right?

If the 49ers had kept him, they could have used the Rachal pick on a pass rusher. There were some good ones on the board when they picked Chilo.

Teams do not improve very quickly if they do not take advantage of first day draft picks.
I watched pretty closely too last night and he looked absolutely fantastic. What a terrible decision by Nowin to let him go.

He would fit nicely with our running attack.
Smiley has a high tendency of getting hurt. That being said McCloughan is wrong in hiss assemesment that we can get guards anywhere and we really need to sign a replacement in free agency.
My thing with Smiley is, wasn't it rumored that we turned down a trade offer from the Denver Broncos that was giving up 2 1st round picks for Justin Smiley?

Like seriously, the f**k did we not take that deal for?
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Originally posted by GameOver:
My thing with Smiley is, wasn't it rumored that we turned down a trade offer from the Denver Broncos that was giving up 2 1st round picks for Justin Smiley?

Like seriously, the f**k did we not take that deal for?

Nobody trades 2 first round draft picks for Smiley. I think the 49ers spread that rumor to entice reasonable offers for Smiley.
Nolan used to say Smiley was a goner if they were offered a first rounder for him, I dont think he ever intended to stick around after that comment was made.
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Smiley has a high tendency of getting hurt. That being said McCloughan is wrong in hiss assemesment that we can get guards anywhere and we really need to sign a replacement in free agency.

He played through shoulder problems his last year here that required surgery after the season. Prior to that he had about the same number of nicks and dings that all OL get during the year.

He is a very active guy who pulls very well, also traps well. Guys that move that well and that much, expose themselves to hits from more odd angles than a mammoth bulldozer that just grunts and farts and goes straight ahead.
[ Edited by dj43 on Sep 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Smiley has a high tendency of getting hurt. That being said McCloughan is wrong in hiss assemesment that we can get guards anywhere and we really need to sign a replacement in free agency.

He played through shoulder problems his last year here that required surgery after the season. Prior to that he had about the same number of nicks and dings that all OL get during the year.

He is a very active guy who pulls very well, also traps well. Guys that move that well and that much, expose themselves to hits from more odd angles than a mammoth bulldozer that just grunts and farts and goes straight ahead.

He missed half a year his last year, he missed 4 games last year for the Dolphins. This guy is injury prone.
[ Edited by AllTimeGreat on Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM ]
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