Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I can understand why he is in HOF. Not every receiver in Hall is going to have the numbers that Jerry Rice put up. Remember, Irvin was in an offense that was run first with the all time leading rusher in Emmett Smith. Here a few reasons why I can buy into him being in the Hall:
1) He played his entire career with Dallas and won 3 SB rings
2) In an 8 year stretch he averaged 83 catches and 1286 yards
3) He was the #1 WR for this great Dallas team
4) He was on pro bowl team for 5 years
5) The guy was a great blocker - very physical
I can name 2 guys that are much more undeserving of the Hall. John Stallworth who had only 3 years over 1000 yards and 1 year ever over 80 catches and of course the worst.. Lynn Swann who had a TOTAL of 336 catches in his career with just one year over 60 catches. However, both had the SB rings, played entire careers with one team, and played on run first teams as well.
I don't think the debate was whether or not he was a good to great WR, he was. But, to go in ahead of some of the receivers that are top 10 all-time in several categories is what surprises me.
I think that stats can be misleading when it comes to receivers. For example, Henry Ellard had 13,777 yards and Irving Fryar 12,785. Both are higher than Irvin's total of 11,904 but no one would ever put them ahead of Irvin as a WR.
SO much depends on injuries, the type of offense they played in,etc...
I do believe that Chris Carter should be in HOF and that he will be soon.