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Vick signs with Eagles

  • TX9R
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by TX9R:
For a team that was already a contender, I'm not sure a distraction like this is worth a back up QB. Every time there's a press conference Vick will come up. After 6 weeks the players and coaches will be very tired of it, then he's eligible. This will last all year and I think mentally take away from them contending. And they over paid big time. Why not offer the league minimum? It's not like he had leverage. Bad move IMO.

This is no more of a bad move as when they drafted QB Kolb in the 2nd round a few years back. I for the life of me do not understand why the Eagles treat McNabb so poorly. I think this signing has more to do with the Eagles getting prepared to move in a diferent direction from McNabb

Oh I think it is. Vick is about 30 and we know what he is. Kolb was at least a move for the future, a good idea much like Rodgers was for GB. Also, no bad press.
Originally posted by boast:
when Donovan McChoke starts to feel the pressure as usual, you better believe Philly's fans will start chanting for Vick.

I prefer to call him Donovan McNever lol
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by boast:
when Donovan McChoke starts to feel the pressure as usual, you better believe Philly's fans will start chanting for Vick.

I prefer to call him Donovan McNever lol

I call him Donovan McThanksforcostingmyfavoriteplayerasuperbowlringbecauseyouareanoutofbreathfatass
[ Edited by teeohh on Aug 14, 2009 at 5:49 PM ]
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by boast:
when Donovan McChoke starts to feel the pressure as usual, you better believe Philly's fans will start chanting for Vick.

I prefer to call him Donovan McNever lol

I call him Donovan McThanksforcostingmyfavoriteplayerasuperbowlringbecauseyouareanoutofbreathfatass

oh snap I dinnt know that was your handle representing
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?

After listening to McNabb speak last night I don't think this is the case. Apparently McNabb has been lobbying for Vick to come to Phily as well as mentoring him in how to actually be a productive member of society. Unless McNabbs line was total BS, which I kind of doubt, I think that he welcomes Vick to Phily. It does not seem like a message to McNabb that he may be on the way out.
Originally posted by danimal:
Originally posted by teeohh:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by boast:
when Donovan McChoke starts to feel the pressure as usual, you better believe Philly's fans will start chanting for Vick.

I prefer to call him Donovan McNever lol

I call him Donovan McThanksforcostingmyfavoriteplayerasuperbowlringbecauseyouareanoutofbreathfatass

oh snap I dinnt know that was your handle representing

yup
Originally posted by Lott49ersFan:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?

After listening to McNabb speak last night I don't think this is the case. Apparently McNabb has been lobbying for Vick to come to Phily as well as mentoring him in how to actually be a productive member of society. Unless McNabbs line was total BS, which I kind of doubt, I think that he welcomes Vick to Phily. It does not seem like a message to McNabb that he may be on the way out.

Yeah after hearing Vick and McNabb talk I think you're right about this one.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?



Exactly what I have been trying to say all along.

He may deserve another chance, but hes certainly not my choice for a QB.

doesnt matter both crimes are still against the law!!!!! Leave Vick alone he did his time. Don't mean to call the race card but the majority of the people I see complaining is white america. It's okay to poke and prong bulls, horses, for a sport but it's not okay for dog fighting. Double Standard. Bull riding and horse riding needs to be BaNNED also.

Just leave Vick alone.
Originally posted by meickue:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?



Exactly what I have been trying to say all along.

He may deserve another chance, but hes certainly not my choice for a QB.

doesnt matter both crimes are still against the law!!!!! Leave Vick alone he did his time. Don't mean to call the race card but the majority of the people I see complaining is white america. It's okay to poke and prong bulls, horses, for a sport but it's not okay for dog fighting. Double Standard. Bull riding and horse riding needs to be BaNNED also.

Just leave Vick alone.

The race card works both ways. Lame argument right there. I don't know a single African American who cares what Vick did. Every single one of them just makes excuses left and right. "X" drunk driver didn't get punished neither should Vick. It's just dogs. Blah, blah, blah.

Poking and proding is different from maiming. If we had the sh*t that happens in Spain I'd agree with you, but that's not the case. There's no double standard there whatsoever. Last time I checked they weren't fighting these horses/bulls to the death just for sh*ts and giggles. Let's not forget that one is a sport while the other is an illegal gambling operation.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Aug 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM ]
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by meickue:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?



Exactly what I have been trying to say all along.

He may deserve another chance, but hes certainly not my choice for a QB.

doesnt matter both crimes are still against the law!!!!! Leave Vick alone he did his time. Don't mean to call the race card but the majority of the people I see complaining is white america. It's okay to poke and prong bulls, horses, for a sport but it's not okay for dog fighting. Double Standard. Bull riding and horse riding needs to be BaNNED also.

Just leave Vick alone.

The race card works both ways. Lame argument right there. I don't know a single African American who cares what Vick did. Every single one of them just makes excuses left and right. "X" drunk driver didn't get punished neither should Vick. It's just dogs. Blah, blah, blah.

Poking and proding is different from maiming. If we had the sh*t that happens in Spain I'd agree with you, but that's not the case. There's no double standard there whatsoever. Last time I checked they weren't fighting these horses/bulls to the death just for sh*ts and giggles. Let's not forget that one is a sport while the other is an illegal gambling operation.

If im not mistaken, poking and proding is considered animal cruelty!!!!! So you are saying that its okay to poke and torture, but as long as you don't kill the horse or bull? Would you do that to your pet? Have you heard what they do to those animals before the person rides? Come on dude!!!!!!!!!!!Double Standard like I said. I don't condone Vick's actions. I also think that bull riding and horse riding should be considered animal cruelty . Vick did his time, people are mad because he just got 2 years and they wanted the maximum penalty. Grow Up and move on. Let the man play!!!!!!!
really wish we had signed him.
Originally posted by meickue:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by meickue:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
yes, in the US, animals get more sympathy than humans. Vick served his time, get off his nuts. I hope he does well. I got a feeling McNabb can no longer play a full 16 game season.

No, premeditation is the key here. You don't see Ray Carruth walking the streets do you? Our court system/ general population has sympathy for those who didn't intend to commit their crimes. Like it or not people can understand how you can have too much too drink and then recklessly drive. People can't understand how you can get off to animals ripping each other apart.

That being said I do think he deserves another chance and I give African props for actually breaking down the signing. I too wondered if the Vick signing could be a way to push McNabb out the door. Everyone knows that Philly doesn't like to pay big contracts. Could this be a message to McNabb that he is replaceable?



Exactly what I have been trying to say all along.

He may deserve another chance, but hes certainly not my choice for a QB.

doesnt matter both crimes are still against the law!!!!! Leave Vick alone he did his time. Don't mean to call the race card but the majority of the people I see complaining is white america. It's okay to poke and prong bulls, horses, for a sport but it's not okay for dog fighting. Double Standard. Bull riding and horse riding needs to be BaNNED also.

Just leave Vick alone.

The race card works both ways. Lame argument right there. I don't know a single African American who cares what Vick did. Every single one of them just makes excuses left and right. "X" drunk driver didn't get punished neither should Vick. It's just dogs. Blah, blah, blah.

Poking and proding is different from maiming. If we had the sh*t that happens in Spain I'd agree with you, but that's not the case. There's no double standard there whatsoever. Last time I checked they weren't fighting these horses/bulls to the death just for sh*ts and giggles. Let's not forget that one is a sport while the other is an illegal gambling operation.

If im not mistaken, poking and proding is considered animal cruelty!!!!! So you are saying that its okay to poke and torture, but as long as you don't kill the horse or bull? Would you do that to your pet? Have you heard what they do to those animals before the person rides? Come on dude!!!!!!!!!!!Double Standard like I said. I don't condone Vick's actions. I also think that bull riding and horse riding should be considered animal cruelty . Vick did his time, people are mad because he just got 2 years and they wanted the maximum penalty. Grow Up and move on. Let the man play!!!!!!!

Perhaps you're right about bull riding, but unless you think dog fighting should be legal you have no legs to stand on. If you agree with me that it is a serious offense and should be a felony then this part of the debate ends right here. Yeah you can call people out for being fake animal right's activist but that doesn't change the seriousness of Vick's crimes.

Go back to my original response dude. I clearly state that I have no problem with him playing, but let's not pretend like he's entitled to it. He committed a felony, and in the real world he'd be lucky to get his job back at McDonald's. Vick supporters need to grow up and understand that actions have consequences. Yeah Vick paid dearly for his mistakes but he deserved everything he got. He deserved to go to jail, he deserved to lose all that money, and he deserves every protest he's going to get. He f*cked up severely. End of story.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Aug 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM ]
  • WillisWillKilYou
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i hope he tears the league up and becomes a billionaire...and all those dog lovers feel stupid...f****ts
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by WillisWillKilYou:
i hope he tears the league up and becomes a billionaire...and all those dog lovers feel stupid...f****ts

Why would I feel stupid, and what did you call me??
I'm glad to see Vick back in NFL. Everyone deserves a second chance, but he has to show that he has changed, matured and learned from his mistakes. I also think there is a lot of double standard here, but whatever. He is back in NFL and has paid his debts, and now deserves a chance to earn for his family, kids and himself.

Good luck to him.