JTO Eating Crow Thread!!!

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

Not sure if this is sarcastic or not . . . I'm pretty sure Gore does not like getting 11 carries per game when he is the best player on the field.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

11 carries for 14 yards? O'RLY

Originally posted by captnkos:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

Not sure if this is sarcastic or not . . . I'm pretty sure Gore does not like getting 11 carries per game when he is the best player on the field.

gotta be a joke.

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

11 carries for 14 yards? O'RLY

That was one game and it was against the Giants defense. Gore continued to talk about his love for Martz and his offense.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

11 carries for 14 yards? O'RLY

That was one game and it was against the Giants defense. Gore continued to talk about his love for Martz and his offense.

he'll see the light soon enough

As I said in another thread, the worst thing is that JTO is a quitter. There isn't any other explanation if you don't even try to make a play on 4th down.

I'm afraid he has lost his team mates and I've doubted all the time his ability to play winning football. He makes very nice throws every now and then but he can not play 60 minutes of solid football against the better teams.

Gore always loves every offense we have if we're winning games. He's usually the best freaking Football player on the field, and we are not getting him the ball. It's a f**king joke.

Fire Martz ASAP PLEASE.

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.

11 carries for 14 yards? O'RLY

That was one game and it was against the Giants defense. Gore continued to talk about his love for Martz and his offense.

he'll see the light soon enough

It's not that I'm backing Martz at all (I wanted Cam Cameron to lead our offense). I'm just saying that Gore being the focal point in Martz's offense is giving him a lot more opportunities in the passing game as well as the running game.

Originally posted by Twister68:
As I said in another thread, the worst thing is that JTO is a quitter. There isn't any other explanation if you don't even try to make a play on 4th down.

I'm afraid he has lost his team mates and I've doubted all the time his ability to play winning football. He makes very nice throws every now and then but he can not play 60 minutes of solid football against the better teams.

True that. I can't name any QB in the NFL that is playing worse than JTO. Yes, i've thought of Gus Ferrote and Thigpen.

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Twister68:
As I said in another thread, the worst thing is that JTO is a quitter. There isn't any other explanation if you don't even try to make a play on 4th down.

I'm afraid he has lost his team mates and I've doubted all the time his ability to play winning football. He makes very nice throws every now and then but he can not play 60 minutes of solid football against the better teams.

True that. I can't name any QB in the NFL that is playing worse than JTO. Yes, i've thought of Gus Ferrote and Thigpen.

JTO is pretty much a rookie like Matt Cassel, They been in the league for years but they never really played. He plays with balls, but makes bonehead decisions. The 2 interceptions is what killed the team. They should have never been thrown. He has to realize he cant get the big play all the time.

I can see him getting better though. He made some nice passes in the game that Alex Smith cant make in a million years.

Originally posted by ReturnOfTheDon:

I can see him getting better though. He made some nice passes in the game that Alex Smith cant make in a million years.

Yeah to the other team...

LOL

Originally posted by Method:
Gore always loves every offense we have if we're winning games. He's usually the best freaking Football player on the field, and we are not getting him the ball. It's a f**king joke.

Fire Martz ASAP PLEASE.

Tsk. We just got through disposing of Nolan, now you want Martz' head too? Some people are never satisfied.

Seriously, Gore is not only not getting the ball enough, he's not getting it in places where he can do something with it, make a play.

Seems like Martz is using the same game plan every week: Run early, then go to the long passing game. Go back to the run late in the 3rd or early 4th quarter--and run three consecutive plays off tackle so you can say you've "balanced" the offense. Then go back to the long passing game.

Even tho Singletary was a LB, and a defensive coach, I hope he's willing to look at Martz' game plans and make him work them up more, add some short passes (not just hot reads), some play action, and some crossing routes and screens--as alternatives and adjustments for later in the game, if necessary. Giving Martz a totally free hand, and letting him call nothing but his long passing game, is just setting up the QB for some INTs late in the game, IMHO.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by Method:
Gore always loves every offense we have if we're winning games. He's usually the best freaking Football player on the field, and we are not getting him the ball. It's a f**king joke.

Fire Martz ASAP PLEASE.

Tsk. We just got through disposing of Nolan, now you want Martz' head too? Some people are never satisfied.

Seriously, Gore is not only not getting the ball enough, he's not getting it in places where he can do something with it, make a play.

Seems like Martz is using the same game plan every week: Run early, then go to the long passing game. Go back to the run late in the 3rd or early 4th quarter--and run three consecutive plays off tackle so you can say you've "balanced" the offense. Then go back to the long passing game.

Even tho Singletary was a LB, and a defensive coach, I hope he's willing to look at Martz' game plans and make him work them up more, add some short passes (not just hot reads), some play action, and some crossing routes and screens--as alternatives and adjustments for later in the game, if necessary. Giving Martz a totally free hand, and letting him call nothing but his long passing game, is just setting up the QB for some INTs late in the game, IMHO.

Bottom line that is the first thing that Singletary has to do. Put the b***h slap on Martz and say I want Gore to get more touches. Don't get me wrong I love Martz offense but he has to run the ball more.

Reasons I want Martz gone:

1) 2-5, should be 3-4 or even 4-3. That loss to the Eagles was ENTIRELY on the shoulders of Martz and JTO.

2) He brought JTO to this team, and JTO sucks.

3) He does not know how to use a TE at all. Vernon Davis has more talent then any of our Receivers except for maybe Morgan, we are passing to him 2 times per game. This is unacceptable.

4) We have one of the top 3 backs in the NFL, and he's usually the best player on the field at any time. He does not get enough touches, and usually Martz is calling stupid f**king Off-Tackles which are NOT what we are good at. We have maulers on this line, run up the f**king middle with a fullback!

Originally posted by ReturnOfTheDon:

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Twister68:
As I said in another thread, the worst thing is that JTO is a quitter. There isn't any other explanation if you don't even try to make a play on 4th down.

I'm afraid he has lost his team mates and I've doubted all the time his ability to play winning football. He makes very nice throws every now and then but he can not play 60 minutes of solid football against the better teams.

True that. I can't name any QB in the NFL that is playing worse than JTO. Yes, i've thought of Gus Ferrote and Thigpen.

JTO is pretty much a rookie like Matt Cassel, They been in the league for years but they never really played. He plays with balls, but makes bonehead decisions. The 2 interceptions is what killed the team. They should have never been thrown. He has to realize he cant get the big play all the time.

I can see him getting better though. He made some nice passes in the game that Alex Smith cant make in a million years.

bulls**t

second half this video proves it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QXHUcfSQY