JTO Eating Crow Thread!!!

What happened to Joecool? I bet he is still going to say "JT played well except for the turnovers."

Originally posted by 9erReign:


What happened to Joecool? I bet he is still going to say "JT played well except for the turnovers."

Damn joe, don't worry we won't rub it in too much. You can come back and post, you've completely disappeared. we miss you bro! lol

W.T.F'Sullivan

The express was derailed 4 games ago.

Reading through this thread is hilarious.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by DROB:

Originally posted by Joecool:
JTO!!!!!!

1. Was on the Lions, Panthers, Pats, Vikings, GB, and Saints
   
2. GB was looking to develop him but Rogers fell in their lap
   

Also, hearing Nolan on KNBR, he said McCarthy wanted JTO when McCarthy was with the Niners. He had heard some good things about JTO.

Nolan said the fact that McCarthy was already eying the guy and Martz liked what the guy brings to the field told Nolan that he should sign him AND give him a chance.

Why in the hell was he a journeyman: gunslinger, mistake prone, attitude seemed cocky, teams kept getting in a situation where the starter was better or a draft pick with more potential was acquired, or was it just a different agenda?

Who knows. One thing that I do know is that you can say he makes dumb decisions and if you think he's going to consistently make the type of INT he threw against the Raiders...well...that's not going to happen. He will throw the type of INT he had in the GB game, but almost every QB and their momma occasionally throws those.

JTO has not played a regular season game, but I have a good feeling he is going to be bad ass. My reasoning has nothing to do with this QB rating or stats but everything to do with how he operates the huddle to the different ways he can release that damn ball. His accuracy and throwing capabilities is EXACTLY what the M-O needs.

JOECOOL you better hope this guy don't fall flat on his face

With the way he prepares and plays, not going to happen.

Guys, this is the closest thing we have had to a PLAYER who demands perfection in practice. Not a coach, a player. Ahh, it's been a long time since we have had that.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 49ERwhiner:

Originally posted by Joecool:
JTO!!!!!!

1. Was on the Lions, Panthers, Pats, Vikings, GB, and Saints
   
2. GB was looking to develop him but Rogers fell in their lap
   

Also, hearing Nolan on KNBR, he said McCarthy wanted JTO when McCarthy was with the Niners. He had heard some good things about JTO.

Nolan said the fact that McCarthy was already eying the guy and Martz liked what the guy brings to the field told Nolan that he should sign him AND give him a chance.

Why in the hell was he a journeyman: gunslinger, mistake prone, attitude seemed cocky, teams kept getting in a situation where the starter was better or a draft pick with more potential was acquired, or was it just a different agenda?

Who knows. One thing that I do know is that you can say he makes dumb decisions and if you think he's going to consistently make the type of INT he threw against the Raiders...well...that's not going to happen. He will throw the type of INT he had in the GB game, but almost every QB and their momma occasionally throws those.

JTO has not played a regular season game, but I have a good feeling he is going to be bad ass. My reasoning has nothing to do with this QB rating or stats but everything to do with how he operates the huddle to the different ways he can release that damn ball. His accuracy and throwing capabilities is EXACTLY what the M-O needs.

He is tough mentally and still believes in himself after a lot of rejection. He seems very focused , has a nice quick release and can make all of the neccessary throws with nice accuracy. I am not saying that he is another Warner type of a find but he certainly could be. As for the dumb decisions hopefully he learns to correct them as he goes on ------ he seems bright enough to do it. He certainly out performed the competition so he has all of my support for now.

I still don't see where the dumb decisions harping is coming from. I know you don't think he will do this but it seems as though that's the ONLY negative thing anyone can point out about his on the field play. It was one game, his first preseason game where he loaded up on 2 dumb decisions. ONE (the first) preseason game. Alex made more dumb decisions in his last preseason game than JTO has done this entire preseason. On top of that, JTO has improved his play whereas Alex seems to have been level from games 1-3 and terrible in game 4.

The same people who say he's a journeyman and he doesn't have any experience are banking on one game to generalize his play. Well, the people who feel he can do good things are looking at his overall play in the preseason. Overall, it looks as though he won't make too many terrible decisions.

Originally posted by Joecool:
I promise you all: JTO will NOT disappoint.

Losers do not have the following characteristics, winners do:

1. Humility
   
2. Confidence
   
3. Mastery
   
4. Ability
   
5. Leadership
   
6. No excuses
   
7. Focus
   
8. Expectations
   
9. Risk Taker
   

You just don't see people with these qualities fail very often. He was a journeyman who didn't get to show what he can do or was just in a situation where he was not needed be it financially or behind a proven player. Martz didn't even know what he could do until he actually saw him in extensive time this offseason.

Originally posted by Joecool:
He had the offense looking better than it has for a long time now.

Bad throw in the INT.

First fumble was NOT his fault.

Second fumble was his fault. He needs to tuck it in once a DL puts their hands on him. However, the guy only had his shirt and JTO was trying to pull away. Even Alex has fumbled 27 times in 30 starts, so don't think he is so great at holding onto the ball.


JTO will get better as he figures the regular season out. I know he will because that's what he did in the preseason also. He learns.

Damn Reign, ouch.

Sorry Joe you kinda brought this on yourself for this post.

JTO sucks and I've said it since day one.

[ Edited by Method on Oct 20, 2008 at 12:07:35 ]

Originally posted by Method:
Damn Reign, ouch.

Sorry Joe you kinda brought this on yourself for this post.

JTO sucks and I've said it since day one.

We need to support JTO....he our only option.

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by Method:
Damn Reign, ouch.

Sorry Joe you kinda brought this on yourself for this post.

JTO sucks and I've said it since day one.

We need to support JTO....he our only option.

Screw that. Put MROB in and run the WILDCAT 43 times per game.

Originally posted by TheHitman:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by Method:
Damn Reign, ouch.

Sorry Joe you kinda brought this on yourself for this post.

JTO sucks and I've said it since day one.

We need to support JTO....he our only option.

Screw that. Put MROB in and run the WILDCAT 43 times per game.

Like thats gonna happen....JTO is Martz chosen one.

the JTO Express is actually a Pinto.

Originally posted by Method:
Damn Reign, ouch.

Sorry Joe you kinda brought this on yourself for this post.

JTO sucks and I've said it since day one.

LMAO! You remember in the preseason when it was me, you, OTC, Lambda, Boomer and MD saying JTO sucked and we were just "Smith Homers" haha, I just wanted this team to win and it is funny to watch everyone realize now what many knew in the preseason, JTO has heart and fire but not much brains or physical talent. I feel bad for the guy, I really do, with Nolan and Martz propping him up as their savior only for him to fail and to crush his spirits. I hope things turn out well for him but he is too much of a bonehead to lead this team.

I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

Besides turnover and breaking down in the 4th quarter JTO has been good. I'm not trying to hate on him but I'm also not sold on him either, but I will give him a chance at a full season.

I doubt he will have another bad performance like this again. With that being said, if he does make many mistakes again next game and costs us a win, than he should be benched, but I expect a good performance out of him with Singletary now being the new HC, I think the run will be implemented more.

Just give him a chance, very few QBs in this league start out great.

[ Edited by TheG0RE49er on Oct 21, 2008 at 13:07:17 ]

Originally posted by redngold:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I stuck my neck out for JTO and still think the way Martz thinks about him. There are a couple of things that are glaring and need to be monitored on JTO.

INT at critical situations: This is tough as it is more of an effort mentality but he needs to be ultra conservative during important drives such as at the end of halves.

Fumbles: These are numbnut goofups by JTO.


I don't want to bail JTO out but it almost seems as though Martz could care less about the fumbles. It seems as though JTO and Martz have it built in that the line should do their job and it's the line's fault. I remember Martz didn't give a rats ass about turnovers when he coached the Rams.

I really hope Singletary has enough control to deal with this.

Martz will be next. Scott already said Martz' offense isn't the 49ers style of offense and I doubt that's Singletary's also.

Martz and JTO get ready to pack after this season.

It'll be tough for some players to cope with Martz being fired. Gore absolutely adores his offense.