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Tavon Austin in the 1st

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Austin is the first. HoneyBadger in the second. That would be awesome

there is not a chance in hell we take a WR in the 1st round. We already have 5 making the team plus Lockette/Hall

Nothing is every sure in the NFL bro come on Manningham & Williams both ACL tears ! Lockette/Hall? Really? You can't deny a dynamic special player like Austin in the Pistol would be lethal also great returner
[ Edited by Norwalks_Best on Mar 16, 2013 at 4:55 PM ]
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
I said rams CBs are small dude both 5'10" were just going to be physical with our Wrs Crabs n Boldin now we need that quick n fast slot guy that giive defense nightmares like amendola did to us

Rams have "small" DB's (although 5'10 is average for a CB) but they are very physical..size doesn't have much to do with anything, it's more about physicality ..Rams just put a ton of pressure on the QB and that plus the havoc their DB's cause at the line, is what gave us problems. I think they are more legit than SEA with that combination, I just think SEA does a great job of getting away with extended jamming and bumping

Finnegan is physical Jenkins plays off more of a cover corner. Rams have pass rushers which is why we struggled but yet again CK7 barely has had 10 games he will adjust. Austin in the slot will open up the offense & who will cover him? Trufant? he was probably their weak link in that secondary last yr & didn't take advantage of it.
I hope baalke is looking closely at this guy
Originally posted by tmpluff:
My In-Laws said he ran a 4.18 40 at his pro day, can anyone confirm or deny this? If true

False

Austin ran 4.34 seconds in the 40-yard dash at last month's NFL scouting combine, tied for the second-fastest time. He didn't bother trying to improve on that Thursday, focusing only on showing off his catching ability and speed on the field.

On a few of Smith's longer throws Thursday, Austin actually had to slow down to make catches.
He'll be taken top 10. The emphasis on spread offenses and penalization of big hits make him more attractive. He will be the "surprise" top 10 pic. Happens every single year.
Tavon Austin Day Against Oklahoma
Originally posted by okdkid:
He'll be taken top 10. The emphasis on spread offenses and penalization of big hits make him more attractive. He will be the "surprise" top 10 pic. Happens every single year.

Doubt it his size hurts his stock mid round in the 1st for sure
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I've been back and forth on this, but the more I think about it, I'd have to pass on Tavon Austin. The pluses and what he would bring to our team is well documented. However, I think we have enough playmakers on offense to be a 30+ point per game team, especially if we get one of the better tight ends coming out this year. A better pass catcher to complement Vernon Davis and keep the chains moving, guys like Boldin and Crabtree who I could see catching 160 passes combined this year, the big play ability of Vernon Davis, and the running game that I expect to cntintue to gobble up chunks of yardage will keep our offense churning out the points.

On the defensive side of the ball, we have to do some retooling in order to stay an elite D and avoid falling into the pack of other top tier NFC teams with great offense and shabby defense. Having a defense that continuously pressures the QB, forces bad throws, gets some sacks, and quick three and outs would be a major help to the offense- maybe even more so than the explosiveness of a Tavon Austin.

If there is good talent available at DE, NT, CB, or S, we'll be going in that direction. It is just as much of a help to the offense as adding another offensive playmaker. We need to ensure that the defense has as much help as positive. Right now our O is on the uptrend and D appears to be stagnant or on a slight decline. Keeping our team on that side of the ball elite is imperative as we try to gear up for another Super Bowl run.

On another note, I wouldn't consider a guy like Ace Sanders to be anywhere near Tavon Austin, but he does add a similar type of dynamic and can be had in the later rounds since we most likely would be adding elite talent on defense with the majority of our first few picks.


The more I think about it, the more I think not only should we pick Austin, we should trade up to get him. He's the missing piece to our special teams and receiving play. He steps in and right away would make a major impact. At this point, the only other position we need a starter is safety. If we sign Woodson/Reed then we are set at starters (I consider Dorsey taking over at NT). Austin is tailer-made for our offense and while we have speed at TE, RB, QB, we lack speed at WR. He would stretch the field opening up things for all our players making everyone better. I'm completely sold on the kid.

You made some assumptions that I did not make in my post. For one, we do not have Ed Reed (who hasn't even visited with us) or Charles Woodson. I think Glenn Dorsey was brought in to replace RJF and backup at 3-4 DE and NT. I don't think we can pencil him in as the starter at NT. If we do not get our defensive line together, we are going to turn into a defense that can dominate the weak teams, but would be helpless against the teams with better offenses. Similar to the 49ers of 1992/1993.

As it relates to Tavon Austin, I don't have to be sold on him. I think he will be a great player. My only concern is missing out a starting quality safety, nose tackle, and a decent corner in our pursuit of Tavon Austin. I think in order to get him, we'd have to trade up. We'd probably have to trade up in front of Minnesota (their first, first round pick) or even St. Louis if we want to be absolutely assured of getting Austin. Now if and only if Austin is there at 31, meaning there is no risk of us missing out on starter quality players at NT, CB, S, and maybe even 3-4 DE, should we take him.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by okdkid:
He'll be taken top 10. The emphasis on spread offenses and penalization of big hits make him more attractive. He will be the "surprise" top 10 pic. Happens every single year.

Doubt it his size hurts his stock mid round in the 1st for sure

I think his size is his advantage on the ability to cut and make defenders miss. You get some big corner or LB sprinting at him for a show hit, he'll sidestep the clown. You can't defend this guy by using size and speed, you need speed and the ability to force his angles on the run. The dude will put on weight anyway in an NFL scheme, it's doing that without losing his speed and agility. He's like Deion Sanders when he moves.

I say we move up and take him. We should be packaging the lower round picks in this draft to move up our 1st, We can also package to move our pick up in the 2nd, we've more than enough picks to get ourselves this guy (if he's on the board) and get ourselves starting quality Safety and NT.
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
kyle williams>>>>>tavon austin #trollers gon troll

I know you're joking, but Kyle Williams looked ridiculously fast to me. He was a 4.3 guy at the combine and he said he got faster over the off season. He looked it. Unfortunately he's hurt and who knows if he ever gets that same explosiveness back.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Austin is the first. HoneyBadger in the second. That would be awesome

there is not a chance in hell we take a WR in the 1st round. We already have 5 making the team plus Lockette/Hall

Lockette or Hall is making the team? Well then why even have training camp. Fact of the matter is we have two players coming off serious knee injuries, a second year guy who hasn't caught an NFL pass, and a couple guys who have done next to nothing on the outside looking in. Aside from Boldin and Crabtree, we have a whole bunch of question marks. Austin is a game changer who not only steps in from day one as the third guy, potentially more, and also takes over a lackluster return game.

I agree which I shy I think we should go for Austin - I don't think there are any deep threats in the draft first round?
Loads of defensive talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds where we have 4 picks and can even move an extra 1 or 2 into those rounds

We need Free safety, Nose tackle, Defensive end, strong safety and cornerback. They could all be picked in the first 100 which would sort out the D so I say go for Austin.
Originally posted by Buchy:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by okdkid:
He'll be taken top 10. The emphasis on spread offenses and penalization of big hits make him more attractive. He will be the "surprise" top 10 pic. Happens every single year.

Doubt it his size hurts his stock mid round in the 1st for sure

I think his size is his advantage on the ability to cut and make defenders miss. You get some big corner or LB sprinting at him for a show hit, he'll sidestep the clown. You can't defend this guy by using size and speed, you need speed and the ability to force his angles on the run. The dude will put on weight anyway in an NFL scheme, it's doing that without losing his speed and agility. He's like Deion Sanders when he moves.

I say we move up and take him. We should be packaging the lower round picks in this draft to move up our 1st, We can also package to move our pick up in the 2nd, we've more than enough picks to get ourselves this guy (if he's on the board) and get ourselves starting quality Safety and NT.

Yup we got plenty of pics to do as we please I will order my Austin jersey from day 1 if drafted as I did with Crabtree who many call him a bust
Originally posted by smithc28:
Loads of defensive talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds where we have 4 picks and can even move an extra 1 or 2 into those rounds

We need Free safety, Nose tackle, Defensive end, strong safety and cornerback. They could all be picked in the first 100 which would sort out the D so I say go for Austin.

This is what I was saying earlier. If we can get Tavon Austin at 31 and not lose pick 34, 63, 74, etc, then I'm all for it because we need those picks to draft future starters on defense.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Better hope he runs over a nun, because there is no chance he will be around at 31.

He probably won't but I bet nobody saw Aaron Rodgers dropping to the packers at 24 in the 2005 draft either.