If no trade partner, i would probably take the TE.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
The coverage was very good. Although I liked the strip, he seemed tentative as a tackler, and WAY too content to stay blocked. In this game, I don' think that he showed the aggressive physicality that Baalke tends to look for in our defenders. JMO.
That's one of the big advantages that Banks has over Trufant.....more physical, better at pressing WR's, so if Banks isn't physical enough..............just saying.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
LOL I've been telling him that in the Margus Hunt page.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Pressing a WR and shedding a block are different. I didn't see the aggressive effort to free himself from blocks by WRs to get to the ball carrier and make a play. To me, that is as much about attitude and will as it is about physical ability. Antonio Winfield is a midget, but he sheds blocks and closes aggressively on ball carriers. Hopefully, it is just a technique issue that can be coached up with Banks, because he shadows like a champ for a big man and he tracks the ball very well.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
According to who and for what reason?
Banks was ranked at the top of the draft boards all season long but Trufant has a few good workouts and all of a sudden he's on top? Performance wise in college, Banks was the better player. If Banks falls to 31, some GM's really do deserve to be fired.
I like Trufant, but would never take him over Banks. Dontari Poe moved up A LOT of spots simply based on his offseason workouts last year......it didn't work out so great for the Chiefs considering the talent they could have had.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
LOL I've been telling him that in the Margus Hunt page.
Why, because I have the opinion that Hunt is a hot, steaming pile of garbage? Go take your butt-hurt elsewhere.
Originally posted by eonblue:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
According to who and for what reason?
Banks was ranked at the top of the draft boards all season long but Trufant has a few good workouts and all of a sudden he's on top? Performance wise in college, Banks was the better player. If Banks falls to 31, some GM's really do deserve to be fired.
I like Trufant, but would never take him over Banks. Dontari Poe moved up A LOT of spots simply based on his offseason workouts last year......it didn't work out so great for the Chiefs considering the talent they could have had.
Lol. Typical Phoenix. Make excuses for his dude and try to minimize the accomplishments of the prospect he doesn't like. Most analysts have Tru ranked above Banks. Banks ran a laughable 40 and Trufant killed it. Trufant put up a great display at the Senior Bowl. I'm not saying Trufant is better but it's only natural that given the past 2 months that Trufant is ranked higher.
Originally posted by eonblue:
Lol. Typical Phoenix. Make excuses for his dude and try to minimize the accomplishments of the prospect he doesn't like. Most analysts have Tru ranked above Banks. Banks ran a laughable 40 and Trufant killed it. Trufant put up a great display at the Senior Bowl. I'm not saying Trufant is better but it's only natural that given the past 2 months that Trufant is ranked higher.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Pressing a WR and shedding a block are different. I didn't see the aggressive effort to free himself from blocks by WRs to get to the ball carrier and make a play. To me, that is as much about attitude and will as it is about physical ability. Antonio Winfield is a midget, but he sheds blocks and closes aggressively on ball carriers. Hopefully, it is just a technique issue that can be coached up with Banks, because he shadows like a champ for a big man and he tracks the ball very well.
Here's a clip of him against Auburn, on the 2nd INT it almost looks like he was baiting the QB to throw the ball and he jumped all over it.
#!
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Not sure what the point of this clip was. I don't think it showed any new or contrasting qualities form the last clip. I saw more good coverage and poor physicality. I saw him getting dominated by WR blocks, and failing to square up and engage when he was free. The Asante Samuel-esque Ole attempt on the KR was embarrassing. At ~1:22, he successfully sheds the block (only time on this clip he does so), only to get pushed aside for an additional 3-4 yards. There was no attempt to hit and wrap at all. Like I said before, hopefully most of these issues are technique, not contact shyness, because he is a talented, large cover corner. It just seems from our history that Baalke expects EVERYONE on the defense to play tougher than that.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
One thing I'm worried about with Banks is his ability to make the open field tackle. His mechanics are poor and he goes for the arm tackles. He covers real well and he jams the receivers well, but I want to make sure he's physical enough to make the sure fire tackles.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
One thing I'm worried about with Banks is his ability to make the open field tackle. His mechanics are poor and he goes for the arm tackles. He covers real well and he jams the receivers well, but I want to make sure he's physical enough to make the sure fire tackles.
He goes too high when he tries to tackle, he's in position to make tackles and sometimes he looks tremendous, in that clip against Tennessee, he comes all the way from the other side of the field to make a very good tackle on Justin Hunter who we know is no slouch when it comes to his speed, but that's certainly an area that he needs to improve on, taking much better overall angles, using his length better.