Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Cool it with your know it all attitude. You asked who ranked Trufant higher and I told you. NFL Draftscout is actually one of the better sites. Mayock ( who we both know knows more than either of us had them ranked 3-4 BEFORE the combine. We will see if his rankings change now.
Once again, its another situation where a guy is being ranked more on the basis of his recent workouts than anything else. As much as people like Mayock may have credibility, they also f**k up quite a lot too, same with NFL pro scouts, otherwise Dontari Poe would have never been a 1st rounder and we would never see draft time busts. One of the reasons it happens is because people jump on the bandwagon and get too excited about timed speeds.
Downgrading Banks because he had one bad workout after years of excellence is pretty ridiculous to me. I see him up there with Milliner as the top cornerbacks in this draft. If teams are stupid enough to let him fall because of the perception of his "lack of speed", then so be it, it'll just be another example talked about in future years about why way too much credence is given to Combine results and offseason workouts.
At the end of the college season, if you said you wanted Trufant over Banks, people would have looked at you like you were nuts, one guy was a Top 10/15 player, the other was an early 3rd round pick. Now because Banks was injured and didn't get to be at the Senior Bowl, and because he had one lousy workout, he gets downgraded all the way to the bottom of the 1st? That's just nuts.
You seem like you're always doing this appeal to authority...."well the pro scouts think this so you're wrong", just like "well all these people say that the 49ers won't get anything better than a 4th rounder for Alex Smith, so you're wrong"....etc. If this was actually true, you wouldn't see draft-time busts happen, you wouldn't seem guys get hyped up because how great they looked in shorts and sneakers. Tom Brady wouldn't be a 6th round pick while JaMarcus Russell was the #1 pick in the draft, and on and on and on. A lot of times, common sense is the best tool you can possibly have.
I've always felt that offseason workouts/Combine workouts should never ever override what's already there, what a guy has accomplished out on the field in actual games. And in a perfect world it wouldn't, but every offseason, people jump on the hype wagon and ride it until the wheels fall off. Obviously these guys have to be wrong a considerable amount of time. I'm not saying I know better, I'm just saying that on the football field, Johnthan Banks is a better football player than Desmond Trufant.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM ]