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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
If one beats the single season sack record and the other 2 don't, that's where the dpoy award is going. Just how these things tend to work.

it's sort of like Miguel Cabrera versus Mike Trout, except replace the Triple Crown with the single seasons sack record
Watt credited with an extra sack on Sunday. One behind Smith at 16.5.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Watt had one sack taken away from him earlier this season when it was deemed about a month after the fact that Ryan Tannehill was attempting a run play and not a pass play.

However, Watt may pick up a sack down the road for a play this week, when he sacked Jake Locker for a second time on a fourth down inside the Texans red zone. Due to a fumble that happened on the play, Watt was not given a sack, but the team was credited with a "team sack". I am sure the play will be looked at, just like the Tannehill play, and Watt's number might be adjusted to 16.5 sacks and two forced fumbles.

Here is a current breakdown of the three main candidates:

Watt: 15.5 sacks; 15 pass defensed (5 for INT's); 59 tackles; 27 tackles for loss; 31 QB hits; 1 forced fumble; 0 INT
Miller: 15 sacks; 2 pass defensed; 53 tackles; 24 tackles for loss; 19 QB hits; 5 forced fumbles; 1 INT (pick six)
Smith: 17.5 sacks; 0 pass defensed; 51 tackles; 15 tackles for loss; 23 QB hits; 3 forced fumbles; 0 INT

If one beats the single season sack record and the other 2 don't, that's where the dpoy award is going. Just how these things tend to work.

I love Aldon Smith but JJ Watt may not only be the DPOY, he is in the running for MVP. It has been a long time since any player in my memory has done what Watt has done this year. Voters are bright enough to realize that defense is more than just sacks. Watt is the most complete front 7 player in the league, and it's not close, IMO.
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[ Edited by AmpLee on Dec 6, 2012 at 3:12 AM ]
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Originally posted by dj43:
I love Aldon Smith but JJ Watt may not only be the DPOY, he is in the running for MVP. It has been a long time since any player in my memory has done what Watt has done this year. Voters are bright enough to realize that defense is more than just sacks. Watt is the most complete front 7 player in the league, and it's not close, IMO.

Jarred Allen 2011: 22 sacks, 1 INT, 4 fumbles recovered, 46 tackles.

Jason Pierre-Paul 2011: 16.5 sacks, 7 PD, 2 FF, 72 tackles, 1 safety
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by dj43:
I love Aldon Smith but JJ Watt may not only be the DPOY, he is in the running for MVP. It has been a long time since any player in my memory has done what Watt has done this year. Voters are bright enough to realize that defense is more than just sacks. Watt is the most complete front 7 player in the league, and it's not close, IMO.

Jarred Allen 2011: 22 sacks, 1 INT, 4 fumbles recovered, 46 tackles.

Jason Pierre-Paul 2011: 16.5 sacks, 7 PD, 2 FF, 72 tackles, 1 safety

Watt: 15.5 sacks; 15 pass defensed (5 for INT's); 59 tackles; 27 tackles for loss; 32 QB hits; 1 forced fumble; 0 INT (per MD)

Watt is having a better all-round year, and it is not over yet.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by dj43:
I love Aldon Smith but JJ Watt may not only be the DPOY, he is in the running for MVP. It has been a long time since any player in my memory has done what Watt has done this year. Voters are bright enough to realize that defense is more than just sacks. Watt is the most complete front 7 player in the league, and it's not close, IMO.

Jarred Allen 2011: 22 sacks, 1 INT, 4 fumbles recovered, 46 tackles.

Jason Pierre-Paul 2011: 16.5 sacks, 7 PD, 2 FF, 72 tackles, 1 safety

Watt: 15.5 sacks; 15 pass defensed (5 for INT's); 59 tackles; 27 tackles for loss; 32 QB hits; 1 forced fumble; 0 INT (per MD)

Watt is having a better all-round year, and it is not over yet.

The statement wasn't was Watt having the better year, you said its been a long time since anyone has done what Watt has done and i showed you that wasn't true.
I don't care how good Watt is, if you can't see how special Aldon Smith is, you are crazy. In his second season, he shattered Fred Dean's record of most sacks in one season as a 49er. Not too mention, he has three games to get 3.5 sacks to break the ALL TIME FVCKING SINGLE SEASON SACK RECORD. But by all means, keep hyping JJ Watt's stats to make you feel better.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't care how good Watt is, if you can't see how special Aldon Smith is, you are crazy. In his second season, he shattered Fred Dean's record of most sacks in one season as a 49er. Not too mention, he has three games to get 3.5 sacks to break the ALL TIME FVCKING SINGLE SEASON SACK RECORD. But by all means, keep hyping JJ Watt's stats to make you feel better.

Word.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Why? Watt does things on defense in only his 2nd year that makes be agree with Wade who should know a thing or two about a defensive players.


[ Edited by JerseyNiner on Dec 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM ]
Mad dog has professor ego. dude is brilliant at scouting the college players, but when our front office doesn't pick who he wants he is a bit harsh with the grades
Make it stop.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
This argument is ridiculous. Either guy is a force. If someone would have told you before the draft Aldon Smith would be threatening to break the single season sack record in his second year, while passing Reggie White's two year sack mark and breaking Fred Dean's single season Niner's mark, all the while playing terrific defense against the run and good against the pass, he would have been the number one pick in the draft without question. Either guy has had a hall-of-fame start to their careers. Are we really arguing which potential HOFer is better? Let's not forget Aldon is still on the raw side and has more upside than either Watt or Miller.

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