Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Silly to ever use an H-back/FB/TE at OLB, and vice versa as well, I suppose? Be sure to memo that information to that Bellichik guy up in New England. lol.
My point was that there are a number of guys--Bowman, Grant, Gooden come to mind--who could play OLB, and Bruce Miller could as well "IN A PINCH" (out of necessity) (not all the time) (in an emergency).
(Aren't you the guy who was highly critical of the Miller pick in the first place, because it moved him to FB from OLB--only now you say that he couldn't possibly move back, even for a series if absolutely necessary? wtf?)
True, only one RB on the field at at time, usually. But other than QB, RB touchs the ball the most, and Harbaugh LIKES to run the ball.
Hunter may be an answer, but his size makes him somewhat limited in pass protection: DL and bigger OLBs can simply swamp him.
Gore is tough, and smart, but aging. The time to address the issue is now, not AFTER Gore goes down.
Just my opinion. We'll see how the draft plays out.
Fundamentally, our difference appears to be that you're looking at this from the "how to upgrade the team right now--how to find an immediate starter to strengthen some perceived weak point on the team right away." At least that's what you posted above.
I think Baalke is way ahead of that, and is thinking at least one or two years ahead.
Ninerdude, I'm not trying to antagonize. I don't know if I'm coming off wrong or what, but all I'm getting at here is a few things:
1) RB will be a low priority for the reasons I stated, but also as I stated BPA strategy reigns supreme.
2) I AM specifically talking about during a game. I'm saying we would first look to our other LBs before throwing Miller in at the position during a game in a pinch, because until we have no LBs left and needed to use Miller, it would be a bad idea to risk injuring him and having him out for an extended period of time (we saw how the running game suffered without him).
I hated, absolutely LOATHED the idea of moving a conference defensive player of the year to FB, but I'm glad they were able to take his skill set and intelligence and make a move that panned out. I really trust this staff. I was a staunch advocate of using Miller at both positions during the pre-season. Now, however, seeing how beautifully he works in the run game and even as a receiver, I see good reason to keep him healthy. I mean, don't we all?
I've never said he couldn't ever play there, I just noted that I don't think we can assume they'd use him as a backup unless they absolutely had to and had no other choice. Otherwise I don't think the team would ever move him.
I know that I, nor anyone else here knows the ultimate formula our GM has to determine the picks they make. What I do know from articles of interviews with various GMs in the past, is that GM's put at least some emphasis on "need priority" in calculating their boards, BUT it is WAY WAY WAY WAY less of a factor obviously than the talent of a player, no question. From there, the consensus is "Trust your board." If it turns out to be a RB, that's fine.
I think in a nutshell, I'm trying to say I think the likelihood of taking RB is low given a few factors and from studying Baalke's strategy. Let me show what I'm thinking here:
* We could've drafted J.J. Watt last year, and he's a monster, but we had McDonald, Justin, RJF, and Tukuafu. At OLB we only had Brooks and Haralson and then an underperforming FA Lawson who we let walk. This years OLB class is weak overall compared to last year (I think last year I graded eight 3-4 OLB as first-round talents). This year I see maybe two. However, I see 7 potential 3-4 DE first round talents. I think Baalke knew this and wasn't looking at just one year.
* This year I see only a couple first round RBs, while next year's class is MONSTROUS. Like our DE spot last year, we have RB depth and Gore started every game (although was held out during the one).
I would not be surprised to see us take a RB in the draft, I would only be surprised if it was very early, that's all. If we took one at a later point, we'd still have 3 guys backing up Gore, and then could pull the trigger on one of the many potentially elite backs next year.
Again, I do not know what value our GM assigns to the different variables, but based on analyzing his strategy, I think there is good reason to believe that RB is very unlikely in the first round.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Jan 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM ]