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Originally posted by ImaMod:To be honest, Wallace counteracts my argument b/c with 6-0 he is NOT much bigger than an usual CB. But 6-x and speed is rare...and thats what you are talking about, isnt it?
Thats true, thats why I dont understand why Mike Wallace who is 6 feet and ran a 4.3 fell to the 3rd round
Originally posted by vrabbit:Yeah, I know. At least, we could try him out in training camp.
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by Envy:Thats why I wanted DeAndre Brown(?) from Southern Miss last draft.
I do not disagree. We need some serious height in the red zone. I don't even care if he is that fast. I just want someone who can win in the air.
Speed CAN kill, Size does kill. That's why I DONT want a small speedster in the first two rounds at all. Acc to walterfootball there is a 6-1 guy with sub-4.50 speed at Illinois, AJ Jenkins.
NFL Secondaries are fast enough usually but especially the CBs are relatively small.
who's currently a FA ....
Originally posted by vrabbit:First, I would trade for Floyd if possible. If not,I would take Jones first hands down, plus after Fuller's game the other day I think he has reentered the conversation for a round two pick if we go elsewhere in round one.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by jreff22:
If we aren't moving up Jeffery and Jones will be available, as of now it's Jones for me.
Floyd, Blackmon, and Wright will be gone before we can get them.
you really think Wright will go that early?
Yep.
If we lose Ginn, our whole draft dynamic changes, as we will need another speed WR. Williams has a known injury history and although showed some glimpses this year, I don't think I want him on the field all the time. I would add a guy like Jarius Wright or Joe Adams to replace Ginn.
I have serious worries about Jeffrey, but I trust our staff to make the right call. We'll see. The guys (expected to be available for us) qualifying as tall, red-zone receivers are:
Dwight Jones, North Carolina, 6-4 225
Brian Quick, Appalachian State, 6-4 216
Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M, 6-3 220
Juron Criner, Arizona, 6-4 215
Gerrell Robinson, Arizona State, 6-3 222
Greg Childs, Arkansas, 6-3 217
Alshon Jefferey, South Carolina, 6-4 229 *
Tommy Streeter, Miami, 6-4 215 *
I'm ok with taking Quick or Criner in later rounds, I'd be ok with Fuller later on too
also would be ok with taking T.Y. Hilton on day 3 should we need to replace Ginn
I'm higher on KW10 than you are, but I can see the concerns with injuries
Originally posted by vrabbit:
so I ask you again:
which one?
Painfully obvious that we need playmakers regardless of size
Originally posted by vrabbit:
so I ask you again:
which one?
Painfully obvious that we need playmakers regardless of size
Originally posted by vrabbit:
I think there are plenty of WR's worthy of the 30th overall pick and unless we pick a stud WR in FA this pick HAS GOT TO BE A WIDE RECEIVER
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
I think there are plenty of WR's worthy of the 30th overall pick and unless we pick a stud WR in FA this pick HAS GOT TO BE A WIDE RECEIVER
Yea the last 2 games have made it beyond obvious that we will be drafting a WR first. When your #1 receiver in 2 playoff games is a TE with 300 yards and 4 TDs and you're RB is the #2 target you know you need WRs.
Vrabbit - I think its gotten so bad that drafting a WR at #30 and probably even round 4 or 5 plus signing someone in FA not necessarily Colston or VJAX but we legitimately need to look at potentially adding 2 or 3 bodies this off season. If we could re-sign Ginn then it really becomes 2 people but we should probably in no particular order have a WR group like - FA WR / Draft / Morgan / Crabtree / Ginn and possibly even a 6th receiver on top of that.