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Nice work. I think i would switch Fairley and Peterson

Originally posted by lamontb:
Nice work. I think i would switch Fairley and Peterson

I went back and forth a million times doing exactly that, and I'm still not sure if I want to keep them there. The board will certainly undergo more changes within the next few weeks, and I figure to release at least one, maybe two more versions of the Big 254 before I put out the final one.

Summing up the slots the 49ers have there, if they keep all picks and it fell like this, our draft would be:

1. Prince Amukamara-CB-Nebraska
2. Andy Dalton-QB-TCU
3. Chris Carter-OLB-Fresno St.
4. Austin Pettis-WR-Boise St.
4. Sione Fua-NT-Stanford
5. Deunta Williams-FS-North Carolina
6. Jake Kirkpatrick-OC-TCU
6. Mario Harvey-ILB-Marshall
7. Noel Devine-RB-West Virginia
7. Zach Clayton-DE/DT-Auburn
7. Devon Torrence-CB-Ohio State
7. Ryan Taylor-FB-North Carolina

[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 1, 2011 at 17:41:49 ]

Funny how your super sleeper pick Harvey ends up going to the Niners in the sixth round ;).

Good job!

A little surprised to see Peterson at 6 though.

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Good job!

A little surprised to see Peterson at 6 though.

Don't be too surprised. Peterson is indeed a phenomenal talent and I've been going back and forth on his slot for some time, and his final spot will either be #3 or #6 on my board. However, the Buffalo Bills had the #3 passing defense in the NFL last year. They have a very talented Leodis McKelvin and a good complementary corner in Drayton Florence.

If anything, they will look to add help along the defensive line or at linebacker to help bolster their rushing defense, which was DEAD LAST in the NFL last season. If Dareus somehow makes it to them, he'll be the pick I think.

Ryan Fitzpatrick lit up outstanding defenses last year -- he is not the reason they missed the playoffs. I don't expect Buffalo to take Newton or Gabbert. Right now I have to believe the three players they're targeting are Dareus, Fairley, or Von Miller.

OTC:
How many moves will SF make and where will they happen and who do you think they will try to get?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Good job!

A little surprised to see Peterson at 6 though.

Don't be too surprised. Peterson is indeed a phenomenal talent and I've been going back and forth on his slot for some time, and his final spot will either be #3 or #6 on my board. However, the Buffalo Bills had the #3 passing defense in the NFL last year. They have a very talented Leodis McKelvin and a good complementary corner in Drayton Florence.

If anything, they will look to add help along the defensive line or at linebacker to help bolster their rushing defense, which was DEAD LAST in the NFL last season. If Dareus somehow makes it to them, he'll be the pick I think.

Ryan Fitzpatrick lit up outstanding defenses last year -- he is not the reason they missed the playoffs. I don't expect Buffalo to take Newton or Gabbert. Right now I have to believe the three players they're targeting are Dareus, Fairley, or Von Miller.

My mistake, I should have read the your note above more thoroughly. I thought it was just your ranking and not just an area of where you think they may be selected.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Good job!

A little surprised to see Peterson at 6 though.

Don't be too surprised. Peterson is indeed a phenomenal talent and I've been going back and forth on his slot for some time, and his final spot will either be #3 or #6 on my board. However, the Buffalo Bills had the #3 passing defense in the NFL last year. They have a very talented Leodis McKelvin and a good complementary corner in Drayton Florence.

If anything, they will look to add help along the defensive line or at linebacker to help bolster their rushing defense, which was DEAD LAST in the NFL last season. If Dareus somehow makes it to them, he'll be the pick I think.

Ryan Fitzpatrick lit up outstanding defenses last year -- he is not the reason they missed the playoffs. I don't expect Buffalo to take Newton or Gabbert. Right now I have to believe the three players they're targeting are Dareus, Fairley, or Von Miller.

My mistake, I should have read the your note above more thoroughly. I thought it was just your ranking and not just an area of where you think they may be selected.

Oh no, not at all. No worries, it's fine. I suppose I should mention in my OP that this is NOT a ranking either.

Folks, remember MD and I use the same Big Board format. Neither are mocks or rankings, they are simply our basic "area projections."

You have Andy Dalton slotted at our pick, do you think when it's all said and done that the Niner Brass will wait and let a QB fall to them or trade back up?

It seems to be Baalke's MO to go and get the player he wants. Obviously if Dalton is available without trading, it would be ideal, but there seems to be a significant drop off in QB talent after that. And securing a QB is tatamount to our season, unless they trade for Kolb, which seems to losing momentum.

Just some musings, but great job. And very thorough!

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
You have Andy Dalton slotted at our pick, do you think when it's all said and done that the Niner Brass will wait and let a QB fall to them or trade back up?

It seems to be Baalke's MO to go and get the player he wants. Obviously if Dalton is available without trading, it would be ideal, but there seems to be a significant drop off in QB talent after that. And securing a QB is tatamount to our season, unless they trade for Kolb, which seems to losing momentum.

Just some musings, but great job. And very thorough!

Ultimately, I think we will decide to make a move. How big of a move? I don't know. But unless we think there's someone else later on that we feel confident will fall, I suspect at least a small move in the 2nd is likely.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
You have Andy Dalton slotted at our pick, do you think when it's all said and done that the Niner Brass will wait and let a QB fall to them or trade back up?

It seems to be Baalke's MO to go and get the player he wants. Obviously if Dalton is available without trading, it would be ideal, but there seems to be a significant drop off in QB talent after that. And securing a QB is tatamount to our season, unless they trade for Kolb, which seems to losing momentum.

Just some musings, but great job. And very thorough!

I'd be interested in a comparison between Dalton and Kolb.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Funny how your super sleeper pick Harvey ends up going to the Niners in the sixth round ;).

Pure happenstance.

I had him in the 189 - 196 range. A lot of teams in that area who could be eying Harvey, including us. Also some corners in that area that the 49ers could be keying in on, too.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
You have Andy Dalton slotted at our pick, do you think when it's all said and done that the Niner Brass will wait and let a QB fall to them or trade back up?

It seems to be Baalke's MO to go and get the player he wants. Obviously if Dalton is available without trading, it would be ideal, but there seems to be a significant drop off in QB talent after that. And securing a QB is tatamount to our season, unless they trade for Kolb, which seems to losing momentum.

Just some musings, but great job. And very thorough!

Ultimately, I think we will decide to make a move. How big of a move? I don't know. But unless we think there's someone else later on that we feel confident will fall, I suspect at least a small move in the 2nd is likely.

That's how I feel too. There's too much at stake and we have enough lower-round picks to justify moving back into the late 1st for the QB we are targeting.