Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:Originally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:uhhhhh, show me one single article mentioning the Bucs going to a 4-3. Morris is a tampa 2 guy through and through. I havent heard that all and i pay attention to every bit of NFL news i can get my hands onOriginally posted by jojomellon:Originally posted by SWAGG-ER:Originally posted by jojomellon:
Why in the world would Tampa take yet another DT???
Minny needs a NT to replace pat Williams, not another 3 technique when that is where Kevin Williams players.
2 Guards being taken in the teens is unfathomable.
Tampa has the 5th worst rush d in the nfl. And the 3rd fewest sacks. Duh.
Williams wall is getting old. Marcell Dareus can play ANYWHERE on the line. He's a freakin stud. Could go #2 overall. He'd be perfect inside for them. Heck even LDE to replace Edwards.
And 2 interior lineman were taken 17 and 18 last year... Iupati and Pouncey... so maybe we have different definitions of unfathomable.
so because their ROOKIE DTs didnt immediately improve their rush D, theyre just going to draft yet another? Itd be like a team taking a QB number 1 overall, the player struggling, so they take another QB in the first round the year after. Itd be retarded. Besides, DE plays a huge part in run defense as well and the cupboard is absolutely bare for the Bucs at the position, and incidentally, the 1st round has numerous DE prospects for them to check out. It just makes zero sense to pick two DT's in the first 34 picks and then turn around and take another in the first. Unless you think the Bucs are going to be the Detroit Lions of DTs. Maybe????
There is a lot of talk about them switching to a 3-4 D to create more pressure on the qb. They have DE's that are athletic enough to cover and are more suited to rush the pass from a 2 point stance as opposed to having their hand in the dirt. Mccoy and price on the ends and marvin austin in the NT position.
Apparently not enough...fella
That article does nothing bu reinforce my points. They need a pass rush, not more DT's. They can talk about a 'hybrid' all they want but they just spent 2 high picks on DT's and have ZERO pass rush. So you expect them to fix that by picking an interior linemen despite the middle of the 1st round being loaded with pass rushing DE's..... riiiiiiiiiiight.
Look bruh, you were wrong about them not considering a 34D. Its cool. Don't try and backpedal. You got SWAGG'd. It happens to everyone at some point.
But seriously, you can't play a 34 w/o a superior NT. Austin is just that. He can anchor, penetrate, and is a 3 down player. Raheem also seems pretty pumped about the DE's and LB's he has being able to rush the passer. I'm sure they COULD go OLB like Ayers or Smith, but they also could very well go NT. Especially if they're concerned about Prices hip being a long term problem.
I like how 'playing a 3-4 look once in a while' has in your mind TB becoming a full fledged 3-4 team despite having zero 3-4 OLBs to make that work. They still have small undersize 4-3 tampa 2 linebackers and draft 2 classic tampa 2 DTs last year, a space eating NT and a penetrating 3 technique in McCoy. Every 4-3 team shows looks of a 3-4 now and then, doesnt change theyr base offense. Once again, what pass rushers do the Bucs have? Ill wait.
If the Bucs draft a DT and not a DE in this draft, I will eat my shoe. It would make zero sense. You're just grasping at straws, changing TB's entire defensive philosophy in order to justify you forgetting the insane investment they made in DT's last year and the fact they have zero pass rushers.
hey, lets even quote that website that you used to prove that the Bucs are now the new Steelers running a 3-4, who do they have listed in their mock? "20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Georgia OLB/DE Justin Houston
Houston played defensive end for years, and is a deadly pass rusher. The Bucs need that more than anything. "
I mean that report you posted didnt even mention adding a lineman, it was all about adding a speed rusher. It makes no sense. At all. Its about going to a 3 man front for PASS RUSHING SITUATIONS. Which most 3-4 teams do. You dont need a 350lb NT for 3rd down pass rushing 3 man fronts. Those guys usually come out of the game in those situations.
You basically cited an article that you had a problem comprehending what the point of it was. Misquoting it in your mind into thinking (durrrrr, the bucs are now a 3-4, better draft a new tackle), even though the article was about the 3-4 as a pass rushing formation, similar to many 4-3 teams, in which those 3 down lineman are pass rushing specialists, not spacing eating NTs,. You dont rush the passer with a 350 DT. You usually move an oversized DE into the middle there in that situation (think Justin Tuck). a DE that the bucs dont have. Point. Made.
A. Put down the Red Bull.
B. Marvin Austin is nowhere near 350lbs.
C. He's a penetrator and an anchor. Not just a space eating NT. He doesn't come off the field because he plays both pass and run. You've clearly never seen him play or you'd know this.
D. You can't rush the pass w/ just 2 OLB's. OLB's are nothing w/o the guys up front.
E. Raheem also likes the idea of playing the 3-3-5. That would best be played w/ 3 stout penetrating and anchoring type DT's. Hmm. Price-Austin-Mccoy.
F. The article doesn't need to mention anything about adding a NT. I'm smart enough, so are the bucs, to know you need a stud NT like Austin to be able to switch from 4-3 to 3-4 to 3-3-5. It's all about scheming and thats something that Raheem truly excels at doing.
G. What's your deal?