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Expect us to Land a Solid QB in the Draft

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by JusAdBellum:
Ricky Stanzi: He stands tall and calm in the pocket, throws receivers open, his feet are quiet as he reads the field, and his mechanics are simple and clean. Could be pretty good.

Yeah, Harbaugh could turn Stanzi into a stud. Another interesting point about Harbaugh is that his bro (John) comes to him for all of his QB advice (including how to handle Flacco sometimes); Jim even advised John to put Flacco atop of his draft board.

damn Jim knows QBs, makes sense why hella teams were after him
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Per Trent Baalke, Harbaugh's talent evaluation with quarterbacks has been lights out, and "spot on" over the years. This is exciting to know, because it further brings faith to us fans that we can build this team into a Super Bowl team. All we've needed is a competent coach, a QB, and the other little pieces in between.

Here's an excerpt from a recent article, talking about Harbaugh's QB evaluation ability:

Quote:
(Baalke speaking): ". . . I've had a chance to watch him interact at practices with the quarterback and he's just got it. I don't think you can teach it. Some guys just have it. . . . He developed one, Josh Johnson, down in San Diego. Obviously, he has a great one (Andrew Luck) at Stanford." The 49ers learned of pre-draft reports Harbaugh wrote while with the Raiders in 2002 and '03. His reports were "spot on," according to a source. Harbaugh placed a second-round grade on Tony Romo, who went undrafted. He had a higher grade on Jaguars fourth-round draft pick David Garrard, who has been a solid NFL starter the past four seasons. Harbaugh did not have a good grade on Joey Harrington, the third overall pick of the Lions in 2002.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/01/08/11/49ers-QA-Front-office-changes-ahead/landing_niners.html?full_args=01/08/11/49ers-QA-Front-office-changes-ahead/landing_niners&blockID=387402&feedID=5936 - Excerpt from bottom of article.



If he is as good as I think he is do not expect us to draft a QB very high......

There doesn't appear to be a single starting QB in this draft with Luck out.....
Originally posted by Ripamaru:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Per Trent Baalke, Harbaugh's talent evaluation with quarterbacks has been lights out, and "spot on" over the years. This is exciting to know, because it further brings faith to us fans that we can build this team into a Super Bowl team. All we've needed is a competent coach, a QB, and the other little pieces in between.

Here's an excerpt from a recent article, talking about Harbaugh's QB evaluation ability:

Quote:
(Baalke speaking): ". . . I've had a chance to watch him interact at practices with the quarterback and he's just got it. I don't think you can teach it. Some guys just have it. . . . He developed one, Josh Johnson, down in San Diego. Obviously, he has a great one (Andrew Luck) at Stanford." The 49ers learned of pre-draft reports Harbaugh wrote while with the Raiders in 2002 and '03. His reports were "spot on," according to a source. Harbaugh placed a second-round grade on Tony Romo, who went undrafted. He had a higher grade on Jaguars fourth-round draft pick David Garrard, who has been a solid NFL starter the past four seasons. Harbaugh did not have a good grade on Joey Harrington, the third overall pick of the Lions in 2002.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/01/08/11/49ers-QA-Front-office-changes-ahead/landing_niners.html?full_args=01/08/11/49ers-QA-Front-office-changes-ahead/landing_niners&blockID=387402&feedID=5936 - Excerpt from bottom of article.



If he is as good as I think he is do not expect us to draft a QB very high......

There doesn't appear to be a single starting QB in this draft with Luck out.....

amen buddy,
player coach/Pete Rose style
I'd like to see us either draft a shutdown corner at 7 or trade back in the first round if we take a QB. Somebody will draft Newton and then we can get the next guy after that if we want a QB in the first round.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by JusAdBellum:
Ricky Stanzi: He stands tall and calm in the pocket, throws receivers open, his feet are quiet as he reads the field, and his mechanics are simple and clean. Could be pretty good.

Yeah, Harbaugh could turn Stanzi into a stud. Another interesting point about Harbaugh is that his bro (John) comes to him for all of his QB advice (including how to handle Flacco sometimes); Jim even advised John to put Flacco atop of his draft board.

where did you hear that?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by JusAdBellum:
Ricky Stanzi: He stands tall and calm in the pocket, throws receivers open, his feet are quiet as he reads the field, and his mechanics are simple and clean. Could be pretty good.

Yeah, Harbaugh could turn Stanzi into a stud. Another interesting point about Harbaugh is that his bro (John) comes to him for all of his QB advice (including how to handle Flacco sometimes); Jim even advised John to put Flacco atop of his draft board.

where did you hear that?

Yeah, where? If that's true, that's interesting and even more encouraging.
Originally posted by VA49er:
I'd like to see us either draft a shutdown corner at 7 or trade back in the first round if we take a QB. Somebody will draft Newton and then we can get the next guy after that if we want a QB in the first round.

Basically, the two options I like the best at #7 are NT or CB. Amukamara and Dareus being the top two at those spots.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
I'm very encouraged after hearing about this yesterday and well as today. We often discuss the top picks, but there are certainly sleepers who make a difference. This allows us to fill a need at 7 if Harbaugh doesn't like the other QB's there. We don't have to reach for a quarterback. He can evaluate middle round talent well and mold that talent. We can take a Prince Amukamara or Marcell Dareus, Akeem Ayers, someone of that ilk at 7 and look at other guys. Anyone have an opinion of Devlin, does he fit as a WCO quarterback or is he not mobile enough?

Devlin struggles under pressure and hesitates to make decisions under duress. Probably the reason he only had three picks this year is because he just won't throw it. He'll take the sack or barely get it off just about every time. He operates highly out of the shotgun or the pistol formation.

That said, throwing the ball, he's downright stellar. He makes his reads fast and has pinpoint accuracy when he has time. It's just.. with our line? I don't know I'd want to throw him back there. His mobility though -- while he's not stonelegged, he's not very quick either. Seems stiff when he has to shift in the pocket. I also question his leadership abilities. I didn't see much fire out of him at all last night when they needed a drive to win.

I rate Colin Kaepernick as a much better option. Higher competition, outstanding leader, huge arm, great running ability to escape the pressure, and in Nevada's pistol set, it's a slightly easier transition to being behind center than from straight-up shotgun, because the back is behind you. Kaeper takes pretty good care of the ball as well as far as INT's. I'll be focusing on how he protects it when he runs in their bowl game tomorrow - Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl at 9 EST.

Lol Kaepernick. He might be exactly what we need. I laugh b/c he's a big time s**t talker. Played pickup basketball with him in Turlock once and dude's like a foot taller than me and insisted on posting me up. Anyways, I like his game and the fact that he's athletic, but isn't there still the outside shot he'll go play baseball? He did get drafted by somebody.

By the Cubs, in the 43rd round. I don't think that's going to happen. By the time he'd ever sniff the MLB he could've made millions upon millions more in the NFL. I think the chances of him opting for Baseball are extremely slim. He's better at football, and I expect him to go as high as the second round after the combine, and if he performs great at the Senior Bowl, there's a remote, outside chance I believe he could even sneak into the first round.

6-5 225 pound quarterbacks who can run in the low 4.5's just don't grow on trees.

On the rise:

Quote:

1. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

After evaluating film of his junior year, most scouts viewed Kaepernick as a super athletic, developmental prospect who was a long way from being ready to play in the NFL and projected him to go in the fifth or sixth round.

This season, Kaepernick (6-4 3/4, 219) impressed with his athleticism and speed as a runner but, more important, showed good arm strength and accuracy as a passer.

Throughout his senior season, he has displayed the consistent ability to be accurate from the pocket and on the move. He also has carried the Nevada offense on his back, making big plays with his arm and legs.

Kaepernick will not be a high pick but with a good week at the Senior Bowl in January he could we set himself up to be a second- or third-round pick.

Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-09/draft-dish/story/draft-dish-nevada-qb-colin-kaepernick-moving-up-draft-boards#ixzz1ATH0C3ca

Wow, Kaepernick on the rise!? I wasnt so sure he even get drafted. I highly doubt he can be a starting QB in the NFL.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by VA49er:
I'd like to see us either draft a shutdown corner at 7 or trade back in the first round if we take a QB. Somebody will draft Newton and then we can get the next guy after that if we want a QB in the first round.

Basically, the two options I like the best at #7 are NT or CB. Amukamara and Dareus being the top two at those spots.

I think Dareus is a bit light to be a NT. I think he'd be a better fit at DE or we may want to look into going to a 4-3 and putting him at DT.
Originally posted by DominantQE:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
I'm very encouraged after hearing about this yesterday and well as today. We often discuss the top picks, but there are certainly sleepers who make a difference. This allows us to fill a need at 7 if Harbaugh doesn't like the other QB's there. We don't have to reach for a quarterback. He can evaluate middle round talent well and mold that talent. We can take a Prince Amukamara or Marcell Dareus, Akeem Ayers, someone of that ilk at 7 and look at other guys. Anyone have an opinion of Devlin, does he fit as a WCO quarterback or is he not mobile enough?

Devlin struggles under pressure and hesitates to make decisions under duress. Probably the reason he only had three picks this year is because he just won't throw it. He'll take the sack or barely get it off just about every time. He operates highly out of the shotgun or the pistol formation.

That said, throwing the ball, he's downright stellar. He makes his reads fast and has pinpoint accuracy when he has time. It's just.. with our line? I don't know I'd want to throw him back there. His mobility though -- while he's not stonelegged, he's not very quick either. Seems stiff when he has to shift in the pocket. I also question his leadership abilities. I didn't see much fire out of him at all last night when they needed a drive to win.

I rate Colin Kaepernick as a much better option. Higher competition, outstanding leader, huge arm, great running ability to escape the pressure, and in Nevada's pistol set, it's a slightly easier transition to being behind center than from straight-up shotgun, because the back is behind you. Kaeper takes pretty good care of the ball as well as far as INT's. I'll be focusing on how he protects it when he runs in their bowl game tomorrow - Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl at 9 EST.

Lol Kaepernick. He might be exactly what we need. I laugh b/c he's a big time s**t talker. Played pickup basketball with him in Turlock once and dude's like a foot taller than me and insisted on posting me up. Anyways, I like his game and the fact that he's athletic, but isn't there still the outside shot he'll go play baseball? He did get drafted by somebody.

By the Cubs, in the 43rd round. I don't think that's going to happen. By the time he'd ever sniff the MLB he could've made millions upon millions more in the NFL. I think the chances of him opting for Baseball are extremely slim. He's better at football, and I expect him to go as high as the second round after the combine, and if he performs great at the Senior Bowl, there's a remote, outside chance I believe he could even sneak into the first round.

6-5 225 pound quarterbacks who can run in the low 4.5's just don't grow on trees.

On the rise:

Quote:

1. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

After evaluating film of his junior year, most scouts viewed Kaepernick as a super athletic, developmental prospect who was a long way from being ready to play in the NFL and projected him to go in the fifth or sixth round.

This season, Kaepernick (6-4 3/4, 219) impressed with his athleticism and speed as a runner but, more important, showed good arm strength and accuracy as a passer.

Throughout his senior season, he has displayed the consistent ability to be accurate from the pocket and on the move. He also has carried the Nevada offense on his back, making big plays with his arm and legs.

Kaepernick will not be a high pick but with a good week at the Senior Bowl in January he could we set himself up to be a second- or third-round pick.

Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-09/draft-dish/story/draft-dish-nevada-qb-colin-kaepernick-moving-up-draft-boards#ixzz1ATH0C3ca

Wow, Kaepernick on the rise!? I wasnt so sure he even get drafted. I highly doubt he can be a starting QB in the NFL.

Everyone needs to forget Cap. I have watched every snap he has taken in reno and he is not all that. I love him to death but he is not a pro QB. If he gets drafted it will be very late. Coach Ault did a great job this year!
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by VA49er:
I'd like to see us either draft a shutdown corner at 7 or trade back in the first round if we take a QB. Somebody will draft Newton and then we can get the next guy after that if we want a QB in the first round.

Basically, the two options I like the best at #7 are NT or CB. Amukamara and Dareus being the top two at those spots.

This and the 2nd rounder for QB, we have extra 4th and 6th rounders for trading up if needed.
^ Dareus will stay at 3-4 DE. He's a beast there. NT would be a waste of his talent.
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Anybody have the full article of Harbaughs QB evaluation. I cant find it anywhere.
I wonder what his grade was on Alex smith