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Would you be okay with trading next year's 1st round pick?

Would you be okay with trading next year's 1st round pick?

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Ever heard of an "A" gap blitz? It's what teams do with 8 in the box. It's got nothing to do with OT., and every thing to do with a swing pass in the flat to a speed back.Gore is a warrior but the team needs a COP back. I prefer the #1 option if he becomes available, not hope for the 2ed or 3ed possibility later, that's just the way I would play that hand.
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Ever heard of an "A" gap blitz? It's what teams do with 8 in the box. It's got nothing to do with OT., and every thing to do with a swing pass in the flat to a speed back.Gore is a warrior but the team needs a COP back. I prefer the #1 option if he becomes available, not hope for the 2ed or 3ed possibility later, that's just the way I would play that hand.

you just keep saying the same thing over and over. Gore is going to be the starting rb. so can they run your swing pass with gore in the game??? you make it sound like NO they can't. and you think they can bring a clean blitzer up the "A" gap and smith is going to get the pass to the flat before they get there. that's not going to happen. The Ol need to slid inside and leave the outside guy free not the "A" gap. or the RB need to pick up the blizer. then he's not outside for your swing pass. you keep talking about his speed and number one play maker. you want to take spiller and only spiller at 13. answer a simple question Gore is the starting RB so where is Spiller going to play??? Are they going to run 3WR, is he the 3rd best WR on the team??? are they going to run 2TE 2WR then where is he going to play??? If there going to run 3WR and he is the 3rd best WR on the team then i would say take him. if for any reason the answer is no then I would pass. Plus if one of the top 3 OT is there at 13 I would take him first and hope spiller falles to 17.

[ Edited by dlance on Apr 1, 2010 at 07:32:05 ]
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Ever heard of an "A" gap blitz? It's what teams do with 8 in the box. It's got nothing to do with OT., and every thing to do with a swing pass in the flat to a speed back.Gore is a warrior but the team needs a COP back. I prefer the #1 option if he becomes available, not hope for the 2ed or 3ed possibility later, that's just the way I would play that hand.

the other thing is If they Draft a WR like Dez at 13 or 17. I agree he is not smart but he can play football, and I'm not sure if i would want him on the team. but He would be one of the two starting WR and Hill, Jones or Morgan would be the 3rd WR if they put 8 on the box then all 3 WR are in man coverage, and one should be able to get open easly. that is why i don't think Arizona see many 8 men in the box.

I didn't put GO Cowboys on there i have no idea where it came form

[ Edited by dlance on Apr 1, 2010 at 07:10:20 ]
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Overall: ACC Player of the Year in 2009, Clemson's first ACC Player of the Year since 1987 (Michael Dean Perry)...first offensive player from Clemson to be ACC Player of the Year since 1978 (Steve Fuller)...MVP of the ACC Championship game vs. Georgia Tech on December 5, 2009...unanimous first-team All-American as a kick returner, just the third unanimous All-American in Clemson history...finished sixth in Heisman Trophy voting, tied for highest finish in Clemson history (Steve Fuller 6th in 1978) and just the second top 10 finish in Clemson history...first-team All-American by Walter Camp as a kick returner and second team as a running back...first player in history of the Walter Camp AA team to be first or second team All-American at two positions in same year ...first-team All-ACC... named ACC player of the week four times this year, more than any other ACC player...the ACC's career leader in all-purpose running with 7588, he finished second in NCAA Division I history...first player in ACC history with at least 1000 yards rushing and 500 receiving, he finished with 1212 rushing and 503 receiving...broke ACC record for all-purpose running yards per game with 191, the record had stood since 1968...only player in the nation with a touchdown in every one of his team's games this year, 14 in a row....went over 7000 career yards when he went 88 yards for a touchdown with the opening kickoff at South Carolina...that play was his seventh career kickoff return for a score, an all-time NCAA record...joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns... finished with eight kick returns for touchdowns in has career, tied for the NCAA record....has set 31 Clemson records in various categories, including the record for all-purpose running, returns for touchdowns and many others...ranks third in Clemson history in career rushing...just the sixth player in ACC history with 3000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in a career...had 21 career touchdowns of 50 yards or more...more than Tim Brown, Rocket Ismail or Reggie Bush, similar types of players, had in their careers...went past Reggie Bush on the all-time all-purpose yardage list when he had 312 yards against Florida State on November 7...one of two players nationally to have three 300-yard all-purpose running games in 2009...one of two players in Clemson history to account for a touchdown five different ways (punt return, kickoff return, reception, rush and has thrown a touchdown pass)....threw a scoring pass, caught a touchdown pass and ran for a score in win over NC State on November 14...only running back in the nation to do all three in the same game this year....ranks third in Clemson history in rushing, 12th in receptions, first in kickoff returns.... has recorded these numbers while serving three years as a part time player with James Davis....graduated in three-and-a-half years on December 17, 2009, he received standing ovation from Clemson Board of Trustees when he crossed the stage, first time that had happened for a student-athlete....made first-team Academic All-ACC in 2008 when he made the Dean's List....first Clemson running back to make first-team Academic All-ACC and first-team All-ACC on the field in same year in school history. ...rated among the top 16 players in the nation for the NFL draft by Mel Kiper...also a three-time All-American in track for the Tigers...first-team Strength All-American in 2008...had career best time of 6.58 in the 60 and 10.22 in the 100 meters.

I think with credentials like those they'll find a place to play him!
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Overall: ACC Player of the Year in 2009, Clemson's first ACC Player of the Year since 1987 (Michael Dean Perry)...first offensive player from Clemson to be ACC Player of the Year since 1978 (Steve Fuller)...MVP of the ACC Championship game vs. Georgia Tech on December 5, 2009...unanimous first-team All-American as a kick returner, just the third unanimous All-American in Clemson history...finished sixth in Heisman Trophy voting, tied for highest finish in Clemson history (Steve Fuller 6th in 1978) and just the second top 10 finish in Clemson history...first-team All-American by Walter Camp as a kick returner and second team as a running back...first player in history of the Walter Camp AA team to be first or second team All-American at two positions in same year ...first-team All-ACC... named ACC player of the week four times this year, more than any other ACC player...the ACC's career leader in all-purpose running with 7588, he finished second in NCAA Division I history...first player in ACC history with at least 1000 yards rushing and 500 receiving, he finished with 1212 rushing and 503 receiving...broke ACC record for all-purpose running yards per game with 191, the record had stood since 1968...only player in the nation with a touchdown in every one of his team's games this year, 14 in a row....went over 7000 career yards when he went 88 yards for a touchdown with the opening kickoff at South Carolina...that play was his seventh career kickoff return for a score, an all-time NCAA record...joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns... finished with eight kick returns for touchdowns in has career, tied for the NCAA record....has set 31 Clemson records in various categories, including the record for all-purpose running, returns for touchdowns and many others...ranks third in Clemson history in career rushing...just the sixth player in ACC history with 3000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in a career...had 21 career touchdowns of 50 yards or more...more than Tim Brown, Rocket Ismail or Reggie Bush, similar types of players, had in their careers...went past Reggie Bush on the all-time all-purpose yardage list when he had 312 yards against Florida State on November 7...one of two players nationally to have three 300-yard all-purpose running games in 2009...one of two players in Clemson history to account for a touchdown five different ways (punt return, kickoff return, reception, rush and has thrown a touchdown pass)....threw a scoring pass, caught a touchdown pass and ran for a score in win over NC State on November 14...only running back in the nation to do all three in the same game this year....ranks third in Clemson history in rushing, 12th in receptions, first in kickoff returns.... has recorded these numbers while serving three years as a part time player with James Davis....graduated in three-and-a-half years on December 17, 2009, he received standing ovation from Clemson Board of Trustees when he crossed the stage, first time that had happened for a student-athlete....made first-team Academic All-ACC in 2008 when he made the Dean's List....first Clemson running back to make first-team Academic All-ACC and first-team All-ACC on the field in same year in school history. ...rated among the top 16 players in the nation for the NFL draft by Mel Kiper...also a three-time All-American in track for the Tigers...first-team Strength All-American in 2008...had career best time of 6.58 in the 60 and 10.22 in the 100 meters.

I think with credentials like those they'll find a place to play him!

I Know you Love his number that all you ever can talk about what he did in collage. and personaly I don't care what he did in collage. because I thuoght Reggie Bush was going to be awsome and I couldn't have been more wrong. bush is not an every down RB. but once again you spit out a buch of stuff about how great he is and can answer simple question. they'll will find a place for the 13 pick is not an answer
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Originally posted by dlance:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Overall: ACC Player of the Year in 2009, Clemson's first ACC Player of the Year since 1987 (Michael Dean Perry)...first offensive player from Clemson to be ACC Player of the Year since 1978 (Steve Fuller)...MVP of the ACC Championship game vs. Georgia Tech on December 5, 2009...unanimous first-team All-American as a kick returner, just the third unanimous All-American in Clemson history...finished sixth in Heisman Trophy voting, tied for highest finish in Clemson history (Steve Fuller 6th in 1978) and just the second top 10 finish in Clemson history...first-team All-American by Walter Camp as a kick returner and second team as a running back...first player in history of the Walter Camp AA team to be first or second team All-American at two positions in same year ...first-team All-ACC... named ACC player of the week four times this year, more than any other ACC player...the ACC's career leader in all-purpose running with 7588, he finished second in NCAA Division I history...first player in ACC history with at least 1000 yards rushing and 500 receiving, he finished with 1212 rushing and 503 receiving...broke ACC record for all-purpose running yards per game with 191, the record had stood since 1968...only player in the nation with a touchdown in every one of his team's games this year, 14 in a row....went over 7000 career yards when he went 88 yards for a touchdown with the opening kickoff at South Carolina...that play was his seventh career kickoff return for a score, an all-time NCAA record...joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns... finished with eight kick returns for touchdowns in has career, tied for the NCAA record....has set 31 Clemson records in various categories, including the record for all-purpose running, returns for touchdowns and many others...ranks third in Clemson history in career rushing...just the sixth player in ACC history with 3000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in a career...had 21 career touchdowns of 50 yards or more...more than Tim Brown, Rocket Ismail or Reggie Bush, similar types of players, had in their careers...went past Reggie Bush on the all-time all-purpose yardage list when he had 312 yards against Florida State on November 7...one of two players nationally to have three 300-yard all-purpose running games in 2009...one of two players in Clemson history to account for a touchdown five different ways (punt return, kickoff return, reception, rush and has thrown a touchdown pass)....threw a scoring pass, caught a touchdown pass and ran for a score in win over NC State on November 14...only running back in the nation to do all three in the same game this year....ranks third in Clemson history in rushing, 12th in receptions, first in kickoff returns.... has recorded these numbers while serving three years as a part time player with James Davis....graduated in three-and-a-half years on December 17, 2009, he received standing ovation from Clemson Board of Trustees when he crossed the stage, first time that had happened for a student-athlete....made first-team Academic All-ACC in 2008 when he made the Dean's List....first Clemson running back to make first-team Academic All-ACC and first-team All-ACC on the field in same year in school history. ...rated among the top 16 players in the nation for the NFL draft by Mel Kiper...also a three-time All-American in track for the Tigers...first-team Strength All-American in 2008...had career best time of 6.58 in the 60 and 10.22 in the 100 meters.

I think with credentials like those they'll find a place to play him!

I Know you Love his number that all you ever can talk about what he did in collage. and personaly I don't care what he did in collage. because I thuoght Reggie Bush was going to be awsome and I couldn't have been more wrong. bush is not an every down RB. but once again you spit out a buch of stuff about how great he is and can answer simple question. they'll will find a place for the 13 pick is not an answer

Come on man, read the bio. There isn't a OC. alive that wouldn't & couldn't use talent like this kid has in spades!
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by dlance:
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Overall: ACC Player of the Year in 2009, Clemson's first ACC Player of the Year since 1987 (Michael Dean Perry)...first offensive player from Clemson to be ACC Player of the Year since 1978 (Steve Fuller)...MVP of the ACC Championship game vs. Georgia Tech on December 5, 2009...unanimous first-team All-American as a kick returner, just the third unanimous All-American in Clemson history...finished sixth in Heisman Trophy voting, tied for highest finish in Clemson history (Steve Fuller 6th in 1978) and just the second top 10 finish in Clemson history...first-team All-American by Walter Camp as a kick returner and second team as a running back...first player in history of the Walter Camp AA team to be first or second team All-American at two positions in same year ...first-team All-ACC... named ACC player of the week four times this year, more than any other ACC player...the ACC's career leader in all-purpose running with 7588, he finished second in NCAA Division I history...first player in ACC history with at least 1000 yards rushing and 500 receiving, he finished with 1212 rushing and 503 receiving...broke ACC record for all-purpose running yards per game with 191, the record had stood since 1968...only player in the nation with a touchdown in every one of his team's games this year, 14 in a row....went over 7000 career yards when he went 88 yards for a touchdown with the opening kickoff at South Carolina...that play was his seventh career kickoff return for a score, an all-time NCAA record...joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns... finished with eight kick returns for touchdowns in has career, tied for the NCAA record....has set 31 Clemson records in various categories, including the record for all-purpose running, returns for touchdowns and many others...ranks third in Clemson history in career rushing...just the sixth player in ACC history with 3000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving in a career...had 21 career touchdowns of 50 yards or more...more than Tim Brown, Rocket Ismail or Reggie Bush, similar types of players, had in their careers...went past Reggie Bush on the all-time all-purpose yardage list when he had 312 yards against Florida State on November 7...one of two players nationally to have three 300-yard all-purpose running games in 2009...one of two players in Clemson history to account for a touchdown five different ways (punt return, kickoff return, reception, rush and has thrown a touchdown pass)....threw a scoring pass, caught a touchdown pass and ran for a score in win over NC State on November 14...only running back in the nation to do all three in the same game this year....ranks third in Clemson history in rushing, 12th in receptions, first in kickoff returns.... has recorded these numbers while serving three years as a part time player with James Davis....graduated in three-and-a-half years on December 17, 2009, he received standing ovation from Clemson Board of Trustees when he crossed the stage, first time that had happened for a student-athlete....made first-team Academic All-ACC in 2008 when he made the Dean's List....first Clemson running back to make first-team Academic All-ACC and first-team All-ACC on the field in same year in school history. ...rated among the top 16 players in the nation for the NFL draft by Mel Kiper...also a three-time All-American in track for the Tigers...first-team Strength All-American in 2008...had career best time of 6.58 in the 60 and 10.22 in the 100 meters.

I think with credentials like those they'll find a place to play him!

I Know you Love his number that all you ever can talk about what he did in collage. and personaly I don't care what he did in collage. because I thuoght Reggie Bush was going to be awsome and I couldn't have been more wrong. bush is not an every down RB. but once again you spit out a buch of stuff about how great he is and can answer simple question. they'll will find a place for the 13 pick is not an answer

Come on man, read the bio. There isn't a OC. alive that wouldn't & couldn't use talent like this kid has in spades!

makes you wonder why he is a one year wonder huh
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Just more tread on the tires.
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Ever heard of an "A" gap blitz? It's what teams do with 8 in the box. It's got nothing to do with OT., and every thing to do with a swing pass in the flat to a speed back.Gore is a warrior but the team needs a COP back. I prefer the #1 option if he becomes available, not hope for the 2ed or 3ed possibility later, that's just the way I would play that hand.

It has everything to do with OT and the line- a good and great tackle will know what the hot read is. No matter how fast the back is and I know you have seen it even with great speed backs , if the tackle doesn't slide and move (cause he is to slow, bad foot work, stiff hips) or doesn't make the right pick up and blocks the wrong person then even if the defender doesn't sack him on his ass he can blow up the play by batting the pass down, cause the pass to arch. Giving his team mates a chance to beeline your guy and smack him upside the head because as you said there are eight- nine in the box. With gore also in there, they still believe that they may run, also you know he can pick up and block, and if they come all out then while their reward is high so will ours cause its one on one and no one over the top-it'll all depend on AS to make the right read and hitting which is more of a question mark.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
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Any particular reason in saving 2011 1st round pick?
Originally posted by cupcheck:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
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Any particular reason in saving 2011 1st round pick?

Yes. Because we don't know what our 2011 needs will be. Could be, for example, a qb, a running back ot a nose tackle. Or a pass rushing OLB. Or we could lose a player to injjury, and need an urgent replacement.

And it ruins the draft.
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would have one of the greatest seasons of any running back in NCAA and Pac-10 history, gaining 2,018 rushing yards that season. He became only the second Pac-10 Tailback to gain over 2000 yards, joining USC tailback Marcus Allen. His mark is also the tenth best total in NCAA history. He would receive the honor of the Pop Warner Award, deeming him the best College Football player on the west coast. He would also earn All-American and All-Pacific Ten conference honors.

This RB had an awsome season should we take him at 13 or trade everything to get him.

[ Edited by dlance on Apr 3, 2010 at 07:23:24 ]
What about this RB

After missing spring practice due to neck surgery, He returned in his junior season with 972 all-purpose yards. In the down season, He totaled 314 rushing yards, 176 receiving yards, and 482 kickoff return yards. He played in 12 games on the season but only made 5 starts due to injuries.

as a senior he broke out for 2,960 all-purpose yards and 24 touchdowns,

I don't know he was hurt and had Neck Surgery should they take him????