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I had the chance to see Benn live this week at the Illinois-Ohio State game. This is a kid who is going to surely get overdrafted if he runs a fast forty time, because he is simply not that good.
He is a fast player on the field, but not nearly as explosive as the DeSean Jacksons, Ted Ginn, Jr.s, Jeremy Maclins of the world. Didn't see the burst at all.
Benn needs to be broken down in his route running. Just too sloppy to make a difference at the next level.
I know many see him as a first rounder, but I've got to be honest, I was really let down by his play. He was just not a difference maker at all, and appears to be a third round prospect more than a first rounder.
Benn is a first rounder if he stays and gets more work in in his senior year. Right now, he's a late first based on potential. He releases from press-coverage well due to his strength and physicality, and obviously he moves extremely well for his size. Reminds me somewhat of Marques Colston.
I'd never expect a guy at 6-2 220 to be as explosive or as quick as a 5-10 170 pound receiver like Jackson or Johnson; that's obviously just not possible.
He really needs a senior year. I'm just not sure he'll want to stick around with the QB's on the roster next season, and the system they play.
One note: If Benn is 6'2", then I'm as tall as Shaq. I think this will be more like the Michael Crabtree measurement where a 6'2" receiver is more like 6' 1/2". He's not 6'2", even though that is high listing.
MD a few questions for you. If we don't end up signing Crabs which now I'm really starting to doubt, would you be in favor of drafting Bryant? With Carolina's 1st rounder I'm expecting a top 5 pick, does it make sense to take Bryant so the Crabs situation is a wash? Crabs wants top 5 money I would rather draft a kid in that position and spend the money accordingly.
Also who do you have down as prospective NT's for us?
Considering the shopping list as of now reads:
What do you see fill-able for this years draft?
The Niners could look at WR with Bryant. I think he'll end up going somewhere in the 7-10 slot. Carolina has a rough schedule ahead, in a competitive division, and may be in that area on draft day, when we use their pick. This team surely needs a playmaker at WR, badly, and I'm beginning to think that Morgan has been vastly overrated as a future star. And, I think Bryant is going to be nasty in the NFL. I love his attitude on the field.
As for NT's, the one that really stands out is Cody. However, I think the Niners are going to re-sign Franklin, who works well in this current system.
I agree that ROT and LG are huge priorities. I'd be shocked to see Baas on the roster after this year. I expect the Niners to let him walk. And, Snyder is best suited as a reserve lineman.
The good news is that secondary looks great, and the interior LB's are set for the future. We still lack one dominant pass rusher.
So, to me, the priority list looks like this:
If the team can magically sign Crabtree (I agree that it looks mor unlikely every day...he's not even in the Bay Area anymore), then they can focus heavily on the OL and OLB position.
I think we can trade him away for a late 1st rounder pretty easily. Going in with a 3 1st rounders one of which could be a top 5 would be major. We could hit WR, OLB, and RT before day 2 even starts!!! With the possibility of Bruce, Battle, and Spurlock being gone after this year I'm thinking we may actually draft 2 WR's this year. I know it's a ways out but what do you think of Shipley? Bryant, Morgan, and Shipley would be a nice set of guys to throw the ball to.
I'm also betting we draft a QB this year as well and finally say goodbye to Smith. I know he makes for a good #2 QB but really whats the point. If LeFevour, Pike or even Hiller are around in the 2nd to 3rd I don't see why we cant pull the trigger. If we can trade back a little with 1 of our 1st rounders we should be able to snag an additional 2nd a take one of these guys.
Allow me to interject briefly.
If Crabtree does indeed re-enter the draft, I think it quite possibly could absolutely be the case that he and Dez Bryant are the top two receivers taken. A year out of football didn't stop Marriuchi from selecting Mike Williams for the Lions, (horrible selection, albeit).
There were four linemen I wanted to key in on -- two seniors, two juniors. All four, I feel could be looked at as top RT prospects. The two seniors were Trent Williams (OU) and Ciron Black (LSU), both who I really like. The juniors were Bulaga (Iowa) and Anthony Davis (Rutgers). While talented, Bulaga has been hurt, and Davis has not been as good as I had hoped this year. Fine in the run-game, but so-so in pass protection.
If Carolina lands us a top ten pick, I think our best course of action would be to hope either Berry, Bryant, Suh or a guy like Dunlap if he declares is there, and then go after a tackle and pass-rusher with our next 1st, and 2nd round picks. I could see the 49ers also going after Taylor Mays, although I'm not sure I'd be so high on that pick.
I also think the 49ers are prepared to sit tight with Hill as the starter for now, and will continue to build the lines and receiving corps. But the key thing is.. We must, must, must draft a pass-rusher this year.
I doubt we let Crabs re-enter the draft, he will be traded. I'm very confident we can get a 1st for him, somebody will bite. Ciron I do agree would be a wise choice, plug him next to Chilo and call it a day.
Going into this year I did want Berry...but that was before we moved Roman to the bench. I agree with MD the DB's have played very well and I don't want to burn a 1st or a 2nd on another one. Goldson has played fine so far and R Smith looked very good in the preseason. Although I love Berry, the pick doesn't make much sense. I know BPA is always he mantra but we have some glaring holes that need filling.
Dez would give us a 3rd playmaker on the O that we need. Morgan, Dez, and Davis actually make for a pretty good set of receiving weapons. Anything we can do to unstack the box for Gore will always be a positive.
I wouldn't pass on Eric Berry if we had the opportunity to draft him. He's a special talent in the mold of Ed Reed. I like Reggie Smith, but there is no comparison here.
I agree, and I also agree that it's virtually impossible that Crabtree makes it back into the draft class unless he refuses to sign with the team we trade him to.
At the very worst, the 49ers will get rid of him -- There's NO way the 49ers would just let themselves be robbed and let him float back into the draft pool, getting nothing in return. That would be asinine.
Playmaking talent is what we need -- Berry is one. Smith looks to be developing fine, but I'd still draft Berry knowing that at the very least, we have a nice back-up if he goes down. Aside from that, I think we must continue to build the trenches, looking for pass-rushers -- and again, a nose tackle.