Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Originally posted by RichmondPete:
As much as I do not trust 1 year sensations it definatly does not help that Sanchez is from USC. It seems like every year a QB from USC is getting drooled on by the media and then fails to deliver.
Besides Palmer name one that has lived up to the billing
Name one with huge expectations that hasn't lived up to the billing other than Matt Leinart. You can play this game with any school. Like I mentioned earlier.. are you going to judge Colt McCoy next year because Vince Young has sucked? Are you going to list all of the QB busts in history and then eliminate those schools where they attended?
Your comment is juvenile and nonsensical. With your logic Peyton Manning should not have been drafted first because he followed the huge bust Heath Shuler who was drafted #3 in the draft, went to Tennessee, and was out of the league in a couple of years. In fact, in 2008 ESPN listed him as the 4th biggest draft bust of all time. I guess Indy is pretty lucky they didnt follow your flawed logic.
I think what the RichmondPete is referring too is, several high profile USC players have failed to live up to their expectations at the the next level recently. Leinart was just one of them. Mike Williams and Jarret are well know busts. Reggie Bush (though I don't consider him a bust by any standard) has failed to live up to his billing as well. Winston Justice is another such player who was supposed to get drafted in top 10, then fell to second round and is a bust today. Many USC players have fallen in the draft itself because of poor preparations for combine.
There is a growing sentiment in the league, that several players coming out of USC are not as focused on football as they should be. I remember hearing this on ESPN a while back, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
If there is one example of failure, then you can brush it aside, but when several high profile players from one program turn out to be busts year after year - NFL takes notice of that. Florida WRs had such notoriety, QBs coached by Tedford were looked at the same way. With Aaron Rodgers' success that may change quickly and it will with couple of superstars coming out of USC.
I completely agree with you, but with each of those players, there were glaring weaknesses in each of the players game: Leinart - arm strength, Jarrett & Williams - quickness in and out of breaks, Booty - Pocket Presence, Justice - Extreme Character and Work Ethic issues.
I am probably the biggest USC supporter on the zone (attended 2002-2006), but I am certainly not a blind supporter of every prospect that enters the draft... For example, I openly objected to drafting both Leinart and Dwayne Jarrett when there was lots of support to go after both, because I felt their respective skills wouldn't translate well to the NFL... Next year, there are lots of people hoping we go after Taylor Mays where as I certainly would not spend a 1st rounder on him and would be hesitant to 2nd rounder.
To this day, the 4 players that I have showed the most support for have been Carson Palmer (pro-bowler), Sedrick Ellis (will-be a pro-bowler), Reggie Bush (under achieved), and Mark Sanchez (we will see).
Throughout this offseason, I debated against several webzoners about the prospect of selecting Sanchez, something I feel the niners would have done had he been available at #10 instead of Crabtree... Dissenters claimed that he didnt have enough experience, had a elongated delivery, and was overly inaccurate.
I am confident that he will prove all of the naysayers wrong and wouldn't be surprised if he put up numbers similar to Matt Ryan this year... I realize those are very lofty expectations, but I feel he is very capable of achieving that level of play.