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Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
It's stupid why? We b***h about the pass rush day in and day out. We get our hopes up about the draft every year. John Lynch's draft track record is horrible. Who gives a s**t about anyone else, are you content with not winning the Super Bowl when you're a winning team or you're just happy to be winning and that's it who cares about a Super Bowl that's stupid right.

We laugh at the Rams for giving up the farm for Myles Garrett. And laughed more because he needed surgery right after. Then Sunday came up with 3 sacks, I didn't hear anyone laughing then.

It's stupid because giving up a 3rd round pick for a half year rental on a player who isn't a full time starter is in fact stupid.

Khalil is 35 and will be 36 shortly after the SB. He's got 3 sacks on the year in 8 games and you want to send a 3rd round pick for him?

There is wanting the team to go for it and there is wanting a team to throw draft picks away well above cost for guys who aren't game changers. That's stupid no matter how you slice it.

Mack is 51st in the NFL in pressures this year. Would he help us? Sure. Would his addition make us dominant? No.

Once again why didn't the Bears throw a 5th or a 4th at them? Think other teams don't need pass rushers?

Didn't the 9ers just do a rental with Chase Young back in 2023? What was his ranked in pressures at the time, how much sacks did he produce during the 2023 season?

How many times has Lynch missed with 3rd round picks?

Tell me the Bears gave up two 1st round picks for a stud DT, why hasn't Lynch did that ever? How about even one 1st round picks?

And to repeat myself again, who cares what other teams did and didn't do!!! It's what the 9ers did and didn't do and I'll tell you what they sure as hell haven't won a Super Bowl I can tell you that!!!

The 49ers finally got to a point in their franchise where they and us fans expect to win. Now how about pushing a little more to get whatever help they can to win the Super Bowl!!!!

All these excuses for Lynch does one thing…..nothing.

When you're paying an elite QB you need draft picks to keep your roster stocked. We will keep a window open that way and improve our chances at a championship. I'd rather have Buckner for a couple mid-late round picks than Simmons for two firsts. And I'd rather have Keenan for a late round pick than Downs for two mid round picks. This FO has proven to trade with value and has a decent success rate doing so. The problem is our fans are just incredibly short-sighted. We have to balance keeping our Super Bowl window open with giving our team the best chance to win now. I think our FO has done a nice job between this offseason, this draft, and this trade deadline. It's almost comical that people still complain ad naseum.

We have not, historically under Lynch and co, done well in the first and to an extent the second rounds. That we can all agree with. So why the hesitnecy to trade those for a proven player that would really push us over the top vs aged players who are fill ins.

Pearsall had been a case of unforeseen bad luck. Strib looked like a stud before the injury. This is such a tired-ass argument. You don't just assume picks won't hit based off previous successes. We don't just assume we'll find all-pros in the fifth because we have before. Just like we don't just assume that an RB in the third is destined to bust.

But the proof is in the record. We are again competing for a championship thanks to our drafts, trades, and FAs. Yet guys like you just know better. Insufferable fans.

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Lenoir, Green and Stout didn't practice today.

This front office knew about these injuries and what do they do? Bring Jack Jones back to the practice roster

Theres a real good chance we have Prysock, Hobbs (in his first game all year) and Jones as the starters with Ashtyn Davis as the 4th CB vs Dallas

I have no idea what this front office is doing half the time.

Tell everyone you don't understand how the NFL works without telling everyone. Oh never mind!

How so? Please explain

 

Niner Talk » 49ers Trade News & Realistic Targets 2026

Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9moon:
who's you guys?

I didn't mention that sorry QB (Cousins) that Kyle been wanting.. I can careless about the overrated Vikings, as they are not even a threat to anyone.

I'm basically disappointed because we seem to be happy with who we got, and once again, we'll have to rely on the Best Young Mind in Football to get us another ring. Both Kyle and Lynch have yet to learn about how to win a Super Bowl. ..

Even Bill Walsh and Seifert needed THAT guy that will fuel the team and get us to the Super Bowl and be above the opposing team.

who was THAT guy you seem to think was out there to be had that would get us to the Super Bowl and be above the opposing team?

I'll give you a hint... he a pass rusher ..

Maxx is not available. try answering again.

Everyone is available for the right price. We saw teams on the final day open to trades that they said absolutely not trading a couple days before.

STOP IT!

just because people keep posting this does not make it true. it's nothing more than an infalsifiable claim.

Lol- you stop posting otherwise. You don't know anything otherwise unless you are in those rooms. People probably said the same about Simmons until two first round picks were dangled before them.

again that comment is nothing but hyperbole that's protected from refutation. it completely ignores the other side of the equation. things like dead money cap hits, a team's future plans, etc. it's a b******t generalization that gets thrown out here as a loose truism way too often.
Ok guy. Just like Mack wasn't available and then just magically became available, albeit probably at a high asking. And other teams manage to do it given the constraints you mention; just look at the Hawks and the Rams.

who said Mack became available? the only rumor that was reported was that the Niners made call and an offer. was Bijan Robinson made available because NYG made a call? lol. try again.

read this s-l-o-w-l-y and tell me where it says he was made available.


Ian rapport came out saying he wasn't available

I followed some charger people the thought was he doesn't want to leave LA area he wants to retire there

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

This is the 18th season for cowboys stadium, yet we've only played there twice in the regular season; Sunday will be the 3rd.

Ticket sites are predicting another 49ers fan takeover… I hope Fox shows and acknowledges it again

 

Niner Talk » San Francisco 49ers @ Dallas Cowboys - WEEK 10

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by alwayssecond:
i never heard before of a player owing money to a club. why does he owe?

It's not a new phenomena. In 2007, the Falcons sent a letter to Michael Vick demanding 20M in bonuses owed back to the team. The two sides couldn't settle so it went to arbitration and was reduced to 3.75M. The Lions have clawed back money from Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Frank Ragnow for retiring early. When Chris Borland retired after his rookie season, he volunteered giving back the signing bonus from his three remaining years of his rookie contract (~450k).

Aiyuk will owe something because he did leave the team and the CBA allows the team to claw back some of the bonus money. Will it be the full 13M the 49ers are alleging? Probably not.
There's no reason to negotiate as he didn't retire early. He quit his job and didn't fulfill any part of his new contract.

No way the NFL arbitrator would allow a player to quit and still keep any portion of that cash.

That money for unmet services paid will not count against our cap and we will get a credit the following year.

payment should not hold up our credit

There are reasons to negotiate, like ensuring you get the credit next year and not letting it all drag out into a spectacle.

The arbiter will not be anywhere near as emotionally invested as you are. They will look at what the CBA says and will listen to arguments from each side in how they interpret the CBA, then make a judgment. "Go search google" and argue with the AI overview. They will tell you the same thing.

I don't know why you are still arguing about the cap credit mechanism. Both SmokeyJoe and I have pointed to the exact clause in the CBA that explicitly states payment is required before credit. Let it go.

 

Niner Talk » Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Lol. The picks speak for themselves. They just can't seem to admit it. We've had some great pics in the back end of the draft but if they can't admit the huge whiff that set the team way back on Lance they aren't following the team or don't know football.

You: The picks speak for themselves

The Picks:

Brock Purdy
Nick Bosa
Fred Warner
George Kittle
Dre Greenlaw
Deomodore Lenoir
Renardo Green
Malik Mustapha
Talanoa Hufunga
Kaelon Black
Brandon Aiyuk
Deebo Samuel
Gracen Halton
Jauan Jennings
Marques Sigle
Dominic Puni
Colton McKivitz
Aziz Al-Shaair
Jaden Dugger
Romello Height
DJ Jones
Upton Stout

This isn't counting Stribling, Mykel Williams, Alfred Collins and many others who have flashed but have been too injured to complete a grade.

Saying players is a good pick unless outstanding in his first 2-3 years is pre mature. So lets atleast not call 2026 or 2025 a success because no one is a standout at this point. What would you say is the success rate is from 2020 to 2024?

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Given I'm more educated than you, I'll ignore that. But what I won't ignore is how stupid that argument is. You don't care about torching 3 first round picks because we managed get lucky and pick Purdy in the 7th round? How about we don't torch those on a unproven developmental player, get some talent, and still get lucky with Purdy in the 7. Lol.

usually when people feel the need to claim this, they're lying.

Or, when someone attacks your intelligence because you don't necessary agree or have an alternate opinion. Either way.

Thats what they all do.

Have a different opinion. You're either:

A) Not a fan of the team
B) Unintelligent

With nothing to back it up. It's hilarious

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Hope mike evans can play

 

Niner Talk » San Francisco 49ers @ Dallas Cowboys - WEEK 10

Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
We don't have the data to look back at his drafts and see that he has more busts and reaches than successful picks in rounds 1-3?

"consensus big boards" show that players like Enrique Cruz, Carver Willis, Jake Moody, Tyrion Davis Price, Nick Martin, Trey Sermon, Danny Gray, Cameron Latu and Jalen Hurd were massive reaches and taken ROUNDS before they should have. This team does it every year.

So with that data can't we assume that they will do it again?

And the data shows we have had 5 successful players chosen out of 16 picks in Rounds 1-2 (Deebo, McGlinchey, Banks, Bosa and Green) with asterisks on Pearsall, Stribling and Williams. So let's say 8 out of 16 picks. 50% hit rate.

People would rather take a 50% chance we will get even a league average player in rounds 1-2 than trade those same picks for a proven player.

I would have traded two 1sts for Jeffrey Simmons and a 2nd and a 5th for Amani Hooker and get two elite Pro Bowl players than keep the picks and have a 50% chance we even get a league average player

wE dOn'T nEeD dAtA 2 pRoVe mY fALsE sTaTeMeNtS, jUsT tRuSt mE bRo

I wish you were intelligent enough to see how unintelligent you sound

What is wrong with you? You're so dug into your Lynch fanboy narrative you have to say facts are false now??

What did I say that is false?

You are the one who has zero intelligence and zero knowledge. You bring nothing to your posts other than saying the other person isn't a fan or unintelligent. That's it. No debate. Nothing.

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Given I'm more educated than you, I'll ignore that. But what I won't ignore is how stupid that argument is. You don't care about torching 3 first round picks because we managed get lucky and pick Purdy in the 7th round? How about we don't torch those on a unproven developmental player, get some talent, and still get lucky with Purdy in the 7. Lol.

usually when people feel the need to claim this, they're lying.

Or, when someone attacks your intelligence because you don't necessary agree or have an alternate opinion. Either way.

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

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Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Given I'm more educated than you, I'll ignore that. But what I won't ignore is how stupid that argument is. You don't care about torching 3 first round picks because we managed get lucky and pick Purdy in the 7th round? How about we don't torch those on a unproven developmental player, get some talent, and still get lucky with Purdy in the 7. Lol.

usually when people feel the need to claim this, they're lying.

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
People on here defending Lynch keep ignoring or forgetting WE TORCHED 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS AND A THIRD FOR LANCE. So don't say we haven't traded or wasted or flailed on first round picks. And I'm not even talking about persall or Williams yet.

They hit on Purdy and have the position locked for the foreseeable future (prayers to the substation). I don't care about 3 FRPs for Lance. That was the cost to move up for a top quarterback in that draft and it was clear Jimmy wasn't the future.

First of all you are not even addressing the point I was making. Secondly, I stopped reading when you said I don't care about 3 first round picks.

Me not caring about trading two first round picks for a 1st round pick swap is because that was the cost to move up and get a guy. What was the alternative here? Were you in the Mac Jones camp? Justin Fields? Or did you want to ride it out with a destroyed Jimmy G? Also, if you are capable of predicting player success, can you predict lotto numbers? Let me get them!

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
First of all you are not even addressing the point I was making. Secondly, I stopped reading when you said I don't care about 3 first round picks.

...aaaaaand that's your problem. You have the reading comprehension of a f**king high school drop out. Because if you had actually bothered to read or if your simple mind could digest the information he was saying, you would know that he meant he didn't care about 3x 1st round picks in the context of it doesn't erase the monumental success he's had overall in building the team.

That, and you made zero points.
Given I'm more educated than you, I'll ignore that. But what I won't ignore is how stupid that argument is. You don't care about torching 3 first round picks because we managed get lucky and pick Purdy in the 7th round? How about we don't torch those on a unproven developmental player, get some talent, and still get lucky with Purdy in the 7. Lol. And just to clarify, he didn't say or mean in the context, he said "that was the cost to move up" - but in the context we moved up for an unproven developmental player that was a huge, known reach.
[ Edited by MBNINER90266 on Nov 11, 2026 at 1:35 PM ]

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by alwayssecond:
i never heard before of a player owing money to a club. why does he owe?

It's not a new phenomena. In 2007, the Falcons sent a letter to Michael Vick demanding 20M in bonuses owed back to the team. The two sides couldn't settle so it went to arbitration and was reduced to 3.75M. The Lions have clawed back money from Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Frank Ragnow for retiring early. When Chris Borland retired after his rookie season, he volunteered giving back the signing bonus from his three remaining years of his rookie contract (~450k).

Aiyuk will owe something because he did leave the team and the CBA allows the team to claw back some of the bonus money. Will it be the full 13M the 49ers are alleging? Probably not.
There's no reason to negotiate as he didn't retire early. He quit his job and didn't fulfill any part of his new contract.

No way the NFL arbitrator would allow a player to quit and still keep any portion of that cash.

That money for unmet services paid will not count against our cap and we will get a credit the following year.

payment should not hold up our credit

 

Niner Talk » Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
We don't have the data to look back at his drafts and see that he has more busts and reaches than successful picks in rounds 1-3?

"consensus big boards" show that players like Enrique Cruz, Carver Willis, Jake Moody, Tyrion Davis Price, Nick Martin, Trey Sermon, Danny Gray, Cameron Latu and Jalen Hurd were massive reaches and taken ROUNDS before they should have. This team does it every year.

So with that data can't we assume that they will do it again?

And the data shows we have had 5 successful players chosen out of 16 picks in Rounds 1-2 (Deebo, McGlinchey, Banks, Bosa and Green) with asterisks on Pearsall, Stribling and Williams. So let's say 8 out of 16 picks. 50% hit rate.

People would rather take a 50% chance we will get even a league average player in rounds 1-2 than trade those same picks for a proven player.

I would have traded two 1sts for Jeffrey Simmons and a 2nd and a 5th for Amani Hooker and get two elite Pro Bowl players than keep the picks and have a 50% chance we even get a league average player

wE dOn'T nEeD dAtA 2 pRoVe mY fALsE sTaTeMeNtS, jUsT tRuSt mE bRo

I wish you were intelligent enough to see how unintelligent you sound

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

 

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