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2018-19 Los Angeles Lakers Thread

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Same guy that posted insider info before is now saying this. He is verified as a legit inside source:


Lakers get: AD

Pelicans get: Lavine, #7, Lakers 2020 unprotected 1st,Kuzma and Hart

Bulls get: Lonzo, Solomon Hill and our #4 pick

This does NOT mean the trade is done, it's simply the most recent offer being closely discussed.

Very interesting. I'm happy if we can keep Ingram. I think he's the best of the bunch, anyway.

Its tough bc Ingram is the most talented out of the bunch, but hes also the worst off ball player.

With AD and Bron, those guys will take a lot shots and will have a high usage rate. Lonzo and Kuzma dont need to dominate the ball to be effective.
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I just dont see Kawhi as a Laker type. Clippers have a better chance. And he just won the championship as the go to guy, in his mind right now, he probably believes that he can win it anywhere.

I won't buy Kawhi to Clippers till it actually happens. I just don't know why a top FA will want to play on Clippers. They're an after-thought. But Kawhi is a weird dude so it's possible.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I just dont see Kawhi as a Laker type. Clippers have a better chance. And he just won the championship as the go to guy, in his mind right now, he probably believes that he can win it anywhere.

I won't buy Kawhi to Clippers till it actually happens. I just don't know why a top FA will want to play on Clippers. They're an after-thought. But Kawhi is a weird dude so it's possible.
I could see him preferring the Clippers over the Lakers. Better ownership, better management, and no drama that comes with playing with Lebron. Plus, the Clippers would be his team compared to playing 2nd fiddle to LBJ. I would never buy Kawhi to the Lakers to be honest.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Its tough bc Ingram is the most talented out of the bunch, but hes also the worst off ball player.

With AD and Bron, those guys will take a lot shots and will have a high usage rate. Lonzo and Kuzma dont need to dominate the ball to be effective.

I totally disagree with this. Lonzo is best with the ball in his hands.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I just dont see Kawhi as a Laker type. Clippers have a better chance. And he just won the championship as the go to guy, in his mind right now, he probably believes that he can win it anywhere.

I won't buy Kawhi to Clippers till it actually happens. I just don't know why a top FA will want to play on Clippers. They're an after-thought. But Kawhi is a weird dude so it's possible.
I could see him preferring the Clippers over the Lakers. Better ownership, better management, and no drama that comes with playing with Lebron. Plus, the Clippers would be his team compared to playing 2nd fiddle to LBJ. I would never buy Kawhi to the Lakers to be honest.

But I think the Lakers have the better young core who may grow up into something. Plus Lebron is special when healthy. The 2 of them would be incredible together. So it's something to consider. Personally I don't know why he would go to the Clippers. I think his marketability and chance at further Championships are better with the Lakers. Plus the Lakers have more pieces to trade for something like Anthony Davis. So you could potentially be looking at a Big 3. I don't see that happening on the Clippers.

I just see 2 logical choices really for Kawhi. Toronto because they have a pretty good team and just won the Championship. So you have to consider he may sign with them again for the longer term. Or the Lakers because with Lebron and their young core that's a devastating team. I guess he could go to the Clippers if he wants it to be "his team." But I think too much is made out of that. Didn't Kawhi just prove TWICE that he can win without Lebron and be Finals MVP also TWICE? He already did that. What does he still have to prove in that category?

I think the Lakers at least historically and recently too get more publicity leading to more marketability and endorsements and money. Would that change if Kawhi goes to the Clippers? I don't know. But it's something to consider.

Kawhi is so quiet even his old Spurs team said he barely ever talks. Who knows what's on his mind? He doesn't give it away. I would guess Toronto has a real chance now since they just won and he was the Finals MVP. If it's southern CA flip a coin. I could see Lakers or Cippers for various reasons. But I think 27 other teams are out. That just leaves 3 and the Lakers are 1 of them. So there is always a chance I suppose for the Lakers. I don't know how good of one. I don't know how he feels about Lebron? Does he like the idea or hate the idea of playing with him? Who knows but him?
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Jun 14, 2019 at 5:22 PM ]
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I just dont see Kawhi as a Laker type. Clippers have a better chance. And he just won the championship as the go to guy, in his mind right now, he probably believes that he can win it anywhere.

I won't buy Kawhi to Clippers till it actually happens. I just don't know why a top FA will want to play on Clippers. They're an after-thought. But Kawhi is a weird dude so it's possible.
I could see him preferring the Clippers over the Lakers. Better ownership, better management, and no drama that comes with playing with Lebron. Plus, the Clippers would be his team compared to playing 2nd fiddle to LBJ. I would never buy Kawhi to the Lakers to be honest.

Yea, I guess anything is possible with this guy bc he doesn't talk

Depends on what Lebron says to him as well. Lebron can't be like - this is my team. He has to be like - with you we will favorites for years and greatest franchise in sports will be all yours.
[ Edited by 4ML on Jun 14, 2019 at 5:25 PM ]
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Same guy that posted insider info before is now saying this. He is verified as a legit inside source:


Lakers get: AD

Pelicans get: Lavine, #7, Lakers 2020 unprotected 1st,Kuzma and Hart

Bulls get: Lonzo, Solomon Hill and our #4 pick

This does NOT mean the trade is done, it's simply the most recent offer being closely discussed.

Very interesting. I'm happy if we can keep Ingram. I think he's the best of the bunch, anyway.

Its tough bc Ingram is the most talented out of the bunch, but hes also the worst off ball player.

With AD and Bron, those guys will take a lot shots and will have a high usage rate. Lonzo and Kuzma dont need to dominate the ball to be effective.

Yup...player I want to keep is Lonzo. He'll be perfect next to Lebron and AD. Can start transition - pass the ball - doesn't need to dominate the ball - spot up for 3s and play amazing defense.
[ Edited by 4ML on Jun 14, 2019 at 5:29 PM ]
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Man how dumb you gotta be to believe some dude on reddit knows anything about nba trade details. Lol
Originally posted by susweel:
Man how dumb you gotta be to believe some dude on reddit knows anything about nba trade details. Lol

Yeah a random unverified guy on Reddit. Wow. I haven't heard anything mainstream like that. If it's real it gets leaked and ESPN and others will have the story the same day or the next day at worst. A random Reddit poster is not in any way reliable.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Very interesting. I'm happy if we can keep Ingram. I think he's the best of the bunch, anyway.

I am very conflicted about your 3 young players.

On one side, I truly believe that if all 3 of them reach their potentials, that Kuzma has a substantially lower ceiling than the other 2. There is nothing truly special about his game, while the other 2 have more unique qualities.

But on the flipside, I feel comfortable saying that Kuzma is currently the best of the 3.

Should be interesting to see what the Lakers value. Do they like the safer of the 3 or do they value the upside?

I agree with all of this. I could go into why in depth that would take a while, but at face value I think this is on point.
[ Edited by DynastyChile on Jun 14, 2019 at 7:11 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Kawhi is better and I think there is a real chance. Kawhi Leonard just recently bought a $13.3 million dollar house in Rancho Santa Fe. It's an elite suburb of San Diego. He went to San Diego State. He even shows up at San Diego State athletic events from time to time. Of course he is from Riverside CA originally. He has tons of friends, family, college buddies, an expensive house in San Diego, his college program that he follows all in southern CA.

Before the year was run out. I would say his 2 destinations would be Los Angeles Clippers or Los Angeles Lakers. Now that he just won the Championship and was Finals MVP you would have to put the Toronto Raptors as one possibility. So you are looking at 3 teams out of 30. 27 teams don't have a chance IMO to land him. He would go to a San Diego team if they had one but they don't. So Los Angeles is the closest and he also has roots from that general area in Riverside. Winning the Championship changes things some. He has a pretty good team there. Lowry and some of the pieces they have are good. I just don't see a southern CA guy being happy in Toronto Ontario Canada. It's too cold for him. It's far from his family and friends. Canada isn't even the U.S. Is he really happy there? Plus with these max contracts Canada has like 50% taxes. The U.S. is in the 30% something ranges. Over the length of a contract that's tens of millions saved if he is in the U.S. Plus his marketability in the U.S. market is massive if he is in Los Angeles. Not so much if he is in Toronto Ontario Canada.

I just can't see any reason at all that he would want to stay in Toronto other than they just won the Championship and have a pretty good team with some good pieces. Which are big reasons. But marketability, close to family, close to friends, close to roots, close to College program, better weather all lead to southern CA. Where he just has 2 choices. It's the Lakers or Clippers. I would say it was 2 choices if they didn't win the Championship. The Lakers or Clippers. Now that they won I guess you would have to throw in Toronto too.

But when he was first traded it was said he was disappointed and didn't want to play there and didn't want to be there. Has that now changed so much that he will want to stay? Maybe it has. I still think long run at some point in time he will end up in southern CA. Who knows when that is? Maybe he does a 1 year deal with Toronto and becomes a free agent at the end of next year.

First, a ton of celebrities including b-ball players have real estate in CA. They have a lot of cash, and if advised well are going to invest in a market that is a. Mostly recession proof and b. Gives you tangible returns like a dope house in RSF. I don't Think him buying a spot down there means much, it's smart investing and should be done regardless esp with his ties to SDSU.

Next, San Diego is about as close to staples center as Santa Barbara. Ive lived in LA and grew up in Orange County, that ain't close. You might as well play in Phoenix or SF and hop on a quick flight to Ontario to see your friends in riverside and party on the Westside. Or maybe he gets the Kobe deal and takes a chopper from SD to El Segundo, our ticket sales would support that..and if they dont then wtf I am paying too damn much for club level seats damnit.

The income tax rates in Canada are blown out of proportion. I don't think playing there would be that material a difference from CA but I could be wrong there. Now taking into account marketing opportunities ya La is much more lucrative...but who knows what his motives are.

Weather is a big deal. I wouldn't want to live in Toronto.

As far as everyone claiming they know what he wants...that's where I get hung up. I hear about him not wanting a big market or dealing w media and this and that...he barely talks to media and handles it perfectly. He doesn't not GAF about noise. I don't believe reports about his unhappiness in Toronto or that he didn't want to go there, he keeps a tight circle, as a laker fan you hear BS from windhorst or Stephen a every day. I don't believe it. He just wanted out of SA.

I think he's the most enigmatic superstar we've seen, and that's the only hope I have for him coming to the lakers. I wouldn't be surprised if he said f**k it, I want to go play for the lakers and bring a franchise like this a championship bc I can. Would anyone be surprised? That's why I have hope. Not really for any of the other reasons.

As a b-ball and kawhi fan, I would rather him go anywhere but the clippers...and the Celtics. For different reasons. F the Celtics. And it'd be a shame to have a guy with his talent in his prime go to a team that has 14 fans like the LAC, on a good day.

I think there's a good chance he stays in Toronto. But he's a tough guy to read, part of his personality and makes him the player he is.
[ Edited by DynastyChile on Jun 14, 2019 at 7:53 PM ]
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Kawhi is better and I think there is a real chance. Kawhi Leonard just recently bought a $13.3 million dollar house in Rancho Santa Fe. It's an elite suburb of San Diego. He went to San Diego State. He even shows up at San Diego State athletic events from time to time. Of course he is from Riverside CA originally. He has tons of friends, family, college buddies, an expensive house in San Diego, his college program that he follows all in southern CA.

Before the year was run out. I would say his 2 destinations would be Los Angeles Clippers or Los Angeles Lakers. Now that he just won the Championship and was Finals MVP you would have to put the Toronto Raptors as one possibility. So you are looking at 3 teams out of 30. 27 teams don't have a chance IMO to land him. He would go to a San Diego team if they had one but they don't. So Los Angeles is the closest and he also has roots from that general area in Riverside. Winning the Championship changes things some. He has a pretty good team there. Lowry and some of the pieces they have are good. I just don't see a southern CA guy being happy in Toronto Ontario Canada. It's too cold for him. It's far from his family and friends. Canada isn't even the U.S. Is he really happy there? Plus with these max contracts Canada has like 50% taxes. The U.S. is in the 30% something ranges. Over the length of a contract that's tens of millions saved if he is in the U.S. Plus his marketability in the U.S. market is massive if he is in Los Angeles. Not so much if he is in Toronto Ontario Canada.

I just can't see any reason at all that he would want to stay in Toronto other than they just won the Championship and have a pretty good team with some good pieces. Which are big reasons. But marketability, close to family, close to friends, close to roots, close to College program, better weather all lead to southern CA. Where he just has 2 choices. It's the Lakers or Clippers. I would say it was 2 choices if they didn't win the Championship. The Lakers or Clippers. Now that they won I guess you would have to throw in Toronto too.

But when he was first traded it was said he was disappointed and didn't want to play there and didn't want to be there. Has that now changed so much that he will want to stay? Maybe it has. I still think long run at some point in time he will end up in southern CA. Who knows when that is? Maybe he does a 1 year deal with Toronto and becomes a free agent at the end of next year.

First, a ton of celebrities including b-ball players have real estate in CA. They have a lot of cash, and if advised well are going to invest in a market that is a. Mostly recession proof and b. Gives you tangible returns like a dope house in RSF. I don't Think him buying a spot down there means much, it's smart investing and should be done regardless esp with his ties to SDSU.

Next, San Diego is about as close to staples center as Santa Barbara. Ive lived in LA and grew up in Orange County, that ain't close. You might as well play in Phoenix or SF and hop on a quick flight to Ontario to see your friends in riverside and party on the Westside. Or maybe he gets the Kobe deal and takes a chopper from SD to El Segundo, our ticket sales would support that..and if they dont then wtf I am paying too damn much for club level seats damnit.

The income tax rates in Canada are blown out of proportion. I don't think playing there would be that material a difference from CA but I could be wrong there. Now taking into account marketing opportunities ya La is much more lucrative...but who knows what his motives are.

Weather is a big deal. I wouldn't want to live in Toronto.

As far as everyone claiming they know what he wants...that's where I get hung up. I hear about him not wanting a big market or dealing w media and this and that...he barely talks to media and handles it perfectly. He doesn't not GAF about noise. I don't believe reports about his unhappiness in Toronto or that he didn't want to go there, he keeps a tight circle, as a laker fan you hear BS from windhorst or Stephen a every day. I don't believe it. He just wanted out of SA.

I think he's the most enigmatic superstar we've seen, and that's the only hope I have for him coming to the lakers. I wouldn't be surprised if he said f**k it, I want to go play for the lakers and bring a franchise like this a championship bc I can. Would anyone be surprised? That's why I have hope. Not really for any of the other reasons.

As a b-ball and kawhi fan, I would rather him go anywhere but the clippers...and the Celtics. For different reasons. F the Celtics. And it'd be a shame to have a guy with his talent in his prime go to a team that has 14 fans like the LAC, on a good day.

I think there's a good chance he stays in Toronto. But he's a tough guy to read, makes him the player he is imo.

I agree he is an enigma. He is very quiet and doesn't say much. Even his old coaches at San Antonio said they never knew what he was thinking. It was the same at San Diego State Aztecs. I don't think they even knew what was on his mind while he played his whole college career there.

Who knows what he will do? I hope too it's not the Clippers. That would be so terrible if he came to Los Angeles and it wasn't for the Lakers. If he comes to LA it's got to be the Lakers. At least one can hope. I don't see the Celtics at all. He has no connections in Boston. Plus it's cold and no roots there. If he wants to stay in the cold and with a good team he will stay with Toronto.

I think if they didn't win the Championship he was probably 90% headed to LA. But which team? Lakers or Clippers? Now that they did just win and he was the Finals MVP it's a major reevaluation for him and those close to him. If he feels he can get 1 more up there in Toronto maybe he will sign a 1 year deal or something. I could see something like that. 1 or 2 years extension. But I just can't believe he wants to be in Toronto long term. Like 5, 6, 7 years from now. I think he will be gone by then. Almost for sure.

Yes I know San Diego and Los Angeles are not really close. However I will say it's somewhat within range. I mean you are talking a 2 hour drive if you don't hit the heavy traffic. You can do that easily in the off season. Of course he will buy a LA mansion on the West side too. He has the money. He will split his time between that and San Diego in the off season which he really seems to like. Because he keeps coming back here, keeps strongly in touch with the College program, supports all Aztecs athletics events and just seems to really love San Diego. That would be so ideal for him in the off season at least. Just a few hours between each mansion. In the on season of course he would spend 99% of his time in LA. With a few exceptions if they have a few days off or something between games. I just see it as an ideal situation for him.

Los Angeles (where he could play), Riverside (where he is from originally), San Diego (where he played College and seems to love and bought expensive real estate) are all 2 hours or less from each other. He has to see that as being kind of ideal and appealing. I mean he is human too. Who doesn't want to be by their roots, friends, family, College program they love and cities and areas they love? It just makes sense. I'm sure he sees that too.

Maybe Toronto is overwhelming because they just won the Championship. If so he signs there for 1 or 2 years and keeps his options open. But if not that it almost has to be Los Angeles. But which team in LA? Also how likely is he to leave Toronto after they won the Championship? If they did not win I would bet you money on Kawhi ending up in LA. Now he still could but Toronto and resigning with them is a real possible outcome.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Jun 14, 2019 at 7:59 PM ]
No i know I just said Celtics bc I never miss a chance to say f the Celtics. I know he isn't going there. And really I don't think he's coming to lakers. W our front office/owner situation I wouldn't. We're a wreck. All we have going for us is being the best franchise in the association
[ Edited by DynastyChile on Jun 14, 2019 at 8:09 PM ]
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Same guy that posted insider info before is now saying this. He is verified as a legit inside source:


Lakers get: AD

Pelicans get: Lavine, #7, Lakers 2020 unprotected 1st,Kuzma and Hart

Bulls get: Lonzo, Solomon Hill and our #4 pick

This does NOT mean the trade is done, it's simply the most recent offer being closely discussed.

Very interesting. I'm happy if we can keep Ingram. I think he's the best of the bunch, anyway.

Its tough bc Ingram is the most talented out of the bunch, but hes also the worst off ball player.

With AD and Bron, those guys will take a lot shots and will have a high usage rate. Lonzo and Kuzma dont need to dominate the ball to be effective.

Great point. Ingram May be better talent/ player than Kuzma, but if we're all in on Lebron next couple years Kuzma off ball is perfect w lbj. All we can hope is Pelinka knows what he's doing. It's clear that magic didn't.
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Originally posted by DynastyChile:
No i know I just said Celtics bc I never miss a chance to say f the Celtics. I know he isn't going there. And really I don't think he's coming to lakers. W our front office/owner situation I wouldn't. We're a wreck. All we have going for us is being the best franchise in the association

Time Warner and Lebron better be ready to pay Kawhi under the table. Get him in space jam for 30 seconds, showcase his new balance shoes and pay him $10m.
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