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Fan asks John York: When are you getting Harbaugh back?

Originally posted by 99problems:
Yup the HUGE stone on her ring finger gives it away

A ring doesn't plug no hole
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Harbaugh lost Willis, Aldon, AD, Kilgore for big parts of last year. Didn't have any Bowman. He had the same issues but still he had the team competing. Just a much better coach.
lol, the o-line sucked last year too. and we didn't just lose Davis this year but iupati as well. and we tried to install a different blocking system.
defense was not his deal at all.
[ Edited by communist on Dec 15, 2015 at 2:06 AM ]
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How long does take them to figure out that if it is broke you have to do something to fix it? If you do nothing it don't fix itself.
Does anyone in here know about the plane someone flew over Levi's recently during a game? I'm just curious if anyone knows what the banner said....
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
He didn't have them competing during the 4 game losing streak when the whole season was on the line. Oh, the harbaugh fanboys are so funny.

Harbaugh was a good college coach, but he was just mediocre in the pros. He was inflexible and bullheaded about changing his offense so it would function once the NFL figured his offense out. I knew it was taking a step back firing him, but I also know you have to do that sometimes to get better in the long run. Any decent coach could and should've won with the roster we had. It's gonna be a rebuild now, hopefully the team focuses on building the lines up first, we need to do it right, fix it from the trenches out.
We had one of the best teams in the league. It was all pissed away because we have an incompetent owner who couldn't get along with the great coaching staff.

Yeah we should just all take it and move on.

Jed burned the bridge and I highly doubt any good coaching staff wants to swim on over to Santa Clara and work for Jed now.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Harbaugh lost Willis, Aldon, AD, Kilgore for big parts of last year. Didn't have any Bowman. He had the same issues but still he had the team competing. Just a much better coach.

He didn't have them competing during the 4 game losing streak when the whole season was on the line. Oh, the harbaugh fanboys are so funny.

I remember when Kap threw an Int on the first play of the game against the raiders. Then our starting CBs got hurt and they gave up 3TD passes.

Man Jim was horrible, glad he's gone.
If harbs gets fired after an 8-8 season, shouldn't tomsula be fired too, thought jed said the goal is still the Super Bowl. More crap comes out of his mouth than the toilet.
Why would you want a coach that was fired by the team.HE won't come back even if they wanted him.It will never happen.
Originally posted by mike1302:
Why would you want a coach that was fired by the team.HE won't come back even if they wanted him.It will never happen.

I think the question was meant to rub the current blunder of a coaching staff in the Yorks face then to actually think he would come back.

Didn't Jed say he wouldn't want Jim back even if he won the Super Bowl? That has to make other coaches around the league feel good.
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's an irrelevant question...Harbaugh's never coming back. If you look at his entire coaching experience, he hasn't stayed anywhere for more than 4 years. If you look at his 2014 season, he struggled to finish 8-8. That's with a roster most NFL teams would die for...that's with a multi-million dollar coaching staff. It's time to move on...Tomsula may or may not be a good head coach. It's totally unfair to compare him to Harbaugh...give him a similar roster then we might have an equitable argument about who should lead the team. It's also unlikely the Yorks are going to sell the team...like it or not, they're the owners. It's really about the authoriity they've truly given Jed and Baalke to run the team. Just look at the roster now as opposed to a year ago...it's night and day. Retirements, planned and unplanned, FA, and injuries have depleted this team. Continued regression of Kap has also been a key factor. It's pointless to rant about the Yorks...they likely not going anywhere. Put your energy into revamping the team for 2016. What moves should Baalke make? The first IMHO is to continue to stockpile draft picks. With the team likely picking in the top 10, Baalke can really get a bumper crop of picks. Trade Kap while he can still bring a decent pick. Re-sign Gabbert to a salary worthy of a starting QB. Re-sign Boone...he's the best OL we have now. Staley's showing signs of wear...AD's retired, and there's no guarantee he'll play in 2016. Invest heavily in the OL...OT first, then OG/C. Draft at least one bonafide stud DL. We have no stars there any more. Sign a vet FA who can help lead the youngsters. Invest in RB's...they need more than Hyde. Bush likely won't be back. Keep Draughn. Acquire more WR's who can catch the ball, break tackles and when they get behind the defense, take it to the house. Acquire a vet TE...again, to lead the youngsters. Get some pass rushers...draft a stud ILB. All of these are team needs...and things we fans can talk about that are positive. Why dwell on the negative? It gets you nowhere.

I like how you say we just need...basically a whole new team...and make it sound like it's the simplest thing to do. All we need to do is stock pile about 20 draft picks, and make sure they are all Pro Bowl worthy. Easy with the way our draft picks have been working out! Draft a couple of WR's that are big AND fast, WITH great hands? Psh! Piece of cake - just look at our history of drafting receivers lately! Draft a stud D-lineman AND a stud ILB? Sure, because we always know what late round picks will be the next TOM Brady, and which top picks will bust. Pass rushers? Yeah...let's pick up 3 or 4 of them, can never have enough (then why do so many teams not have enough??). Oh yeah, and we will trade our failing QB who got benched to some team that still thinks he is worth 3 first round picks!!

All we have to do FIRST, is hire Kevin Costner as our new HC...
Haha Kevin Costner in 49er World!
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's an irrelevant question...Harbaugh's never coming back. If you look at his entire coaching experience, he hasn't stayed anywhere for more than 4 years. If you look at his 2014 season, he struggled to finish 8-8. That's with a roster most NFL teams would die for...that's with a multi-million dollar coaching staff. It's time to move on...Tomsula may or may not be a good head coach. It's totally unfair to compare him to Harbaugh...give him a similar roster then we might have an equitable argument about who should lead the team. It's also unlikely the Yorks are going to sell the team...like it or not, they're the owners. It's really about the authoriity they've truly given Jed and Baalke to run the team. Just look at the roster now as opposed to a year ago...it's night and day. Retirements, planned and unplanned, FA, and injuries have depleted this team. Continued regression of Kap has also been a key factor. It's pointless to rant about the Yorks...they likely not going anywhere. Put your energy into revamping the team for 2016. What moves should Baalke make? The first IMHO is to continue to stockpile draft picks. With the team likely picking in the top 10, Baalke can really get a bumper crop of picks. Trade Kap while he can still bring a decent pick. Re-sign Gabbert to a salary worthy of a starting QB. Re-sign Boone...he's the best OL we have now. Staley's showing signs of wear...AD's retired, and there's no guarantee he'll play in 2016. Invest heavily in the OL...OT first, then OG/C. Draft at least one bonafide stud DL. We have no stars there any more. Sign a vet FA who can help lead the youngsters. Invest in RB's...they need more than Hyde. Bush likely won't be back. Keep Draughn. Acquire more WR's who can catch the ball, break tackles and when they get behind the defense, take it to the house. Acquire a vet TE...again, to lead the youngsters. Get some pass rushers...draft a stud ILB. All of these are team needs...and things we fans can talk about that are positive. Why dwell on the negative? It gets you nowhere.

People who are good at their jobs move on to better jobs. Harbaugh moved from assistant coaching jobs, to coaching at a Division II school to coaching at a Division I school to coaching in the NFL. Everywhere he went he was successful and organizations with better jobs came calling. Only needing 4 years to prove he was ready to move up is an accomplishment. He was wildly successful in the NFL. Taking what was a poor team for the previous decade to 3 straight NFC Championships is considered successful, nitpicking about not having the proper stats while doing it notwithstanding. I remember some guy saying that stats are for losers. Well now we don't have stats or wins. We went from being disappointed when we don't beat the top teams in the league, to becoming overconfident when be beat sub par teams and having no chance against top teams. This is the new normal. Same as the pre-Harbaugh normal. Get used to it.
[ Edited by BillRing49 on Dec 15, 2015 at 6:47 AM ]
Originally posted by Godfather:
We had one of the best teams in the league. It was all pissed away because we have an incompetent owner who couldn't get along with the great coaching staff.

Yeah we should just all take it and move on.

Jed burned the bridge and I highly doubt any good coaching staff wants to swim on over to Santa Clara and work for Jed now.

No, it was all pissed away because the talent window closed. A 3-year run deep into the NFCCG and Superbowl takes it's toll. Older veterans were massively overused and were generally half broken by the time the playoffs rolled around (see the major decline in our defense during the playoffs compared to the regular season), players retired, tons of injuries, Jim's college hand-picked QB and college offense was figured out after 2.5 years, guys Baalke drafted never got to develop b/c of the overuse of veterans, etc.

Any fan knows this is just the normal cycle of championship windows and you're crazy if you actually thought Jim was going to stay here during a rebuilding period. Jim does what Jim does...strikes while the iron's hot and then moves onto the next gig. Don't forget Jim was positioning to get out of here a month after the FO offered him a contract (of which he never responded to) so let's not act like Jim was pissed away. He pissed himself away. It's what he does.

Now if you want to complain, how our FO handled everything after the parting, that was pathetic.

In my mind, I'm thinking this was/is a lame duck HC centered around the possibility Tomsula could end up being "the guy" but really, the major emphasis was on teaching-coaching-developing the young players (finally get their chance). We still need another year to build up and develop the talent so most likely, we won't see that big-named HC until after next season where that HC is going to walk into a perfect situation ala Harbaugh (i.e. players developed, key players at key positions, veterans starting to hit their prime, etc.). That is an attractive job. That will be THE job like it was for Harbaugh.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 15, 2015 at 7:07 AM ]
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
He didn't have them competing during the 4 game losing streak when the whole season was on the line. Oh, the harbaugh fanboys are so funny.

Harbaugh was a good college coach, but he was just mediocre in the pros. He was inflexible and bullheaded about changing his offense so it would function once the NFL figured his offense out. I knew it was taking a step back firing him, but I also know you have to do that sometimes to get better in the long run. Any decent coach could and should've won with the roster we had. It's gonna be a rebuild now, hopefully the team focuses on building the lines up first, we need to do it right, fix it from the trenches out.

This. Many of these Jim apologists are so young, he's the ONLY winning HC they ever saw here (sadly). They have no reference point. Jim was a good HC but unfortunately, his act is not sustainable in the NFL and that is why so many college HC's are fired and go back to college (looking at you next Chip!). You have to be able to develop a pro-style offense and adapt. Neither of which Jim could do. He had one formula for winning (Bo Schemblacher). How much talent did we have? In Jim's first year, he was locked out. Had no contact with the team. Camp Alex happened and we STILL went to an NFCCG where once again, a Jim-lead team loses the big game. Coaching/scheme is that difference in big games often when two equally talented teams meet.
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