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Originally posted by SportOvaFilmTV:
Originally posted by 4x4niner:
Oh, yes yes indeed it is old chap, mayhaps a partiality of too much Brandy rather than
the noticipality of a novices intrigue of the what fors in the world of grassroots rugby. Hmmm i must veribly apologise for the obtuseness and withdraw the concerned above mentioned? Indeed....it is withdrawn and aquitted.

Gold, 4x4... Pure gold!!!

Originally posted by 4x4niner:
Didnt get to watch the chiefs but i can watch the full reply on u tube



I think this is it, 4x4... There were others up there, but probably got taken down... The picture quality is a little poor on this video. (Watch it quick, before it's gone... The picture is also reversed)
Good game sport thanx for that, chiefs have good structure in their team AB 3rd reserve?
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Wales v New Zealand - 2nd Test

Live Updates

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0:00 - Kickoff

15mins - Penalty Wales, Biggar scores / Adv Wales - 3/0

19mins - Try NZ, Dagg scores / Cruden converts / Adv NZ - 7/3

30mins - Penalty NZ, Cruden scores / Adv NZ - 10/3

39mins - Try Wales, Alun Wyn Jones scores / Biggar converts / Tied Game - 10/10

40:00 - Half Time - Tied Game - 10/10

51mins - Try NZ, Ben Smith scores from the Barrett break / Barrett converts / Adv NZ - 17/10

55mins - Try NZ, Barrett scores / Barrett converts / Adv NZ - 24/10

60mins - Try NZ, Naholo scores. Score blowing out now / Unconverted / Adv NZ - 29/10

65mins - Try NZ, Ardie Savea finishes a beauty / Barrett converts / Adv NZ - 36/10

73mins - Try Wales, Williams scores. The Welsh really find it hard to score points / Biggar converts / Adv NZ - 36/17

75mins - Try Wales, Davies scores / Unconverted / Adv NZ - 36/22

80:00 - Full Time - New Zealand defeat Wales - 36/22


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Game Rating: 6/10

A closer game this week & once again Wales were brave, but they lack attacking prowess & struggle to convert pressure into points. This lack of point scoring ability & depth on the bench continues to hold them back in big games. New Zealand on the other hand were lethal with ball in hand, however they still need to keep developing their team cohesion.

(New Zealand win the three test series with one game still remaining)
[ Edited by SportOvaFilmTV on Jun 18, 2016 at 5:09 AM ]
Originally posted by 4x4niner:
Good game sport thanx for that, chiefs have good structure in their team AB 3rd reserve?

Glad you liked it, 4x4... Chiefs had a lot of first choice players away on national duty & out through injury as well. Terrific performance all up, I'd say.
[ Edited by SportOvaFilmTV on Jun 18, 2016 at 12:42 AM ]
England v Australia - 2nd Test

Live Updates

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0:00 - Kickoff

18mins - Try England, Hartley scores / Farrell converts / Adv England - 7/0

(Note / England are going heavy with the up & under tactic)

(Note / AAMI Park in Melbourne has a shocking pitch)

29mins - Penalty England, Farrell scores / Adv England - 10/0

(Note / England dominating the scrum again)

34mins - Try AUS, Moore scores from the rolling maul / Foley converts / Adv England - 10/7

(Note / Stupid mistake by England, but terrific defence to make up for it)

40:00 - Half Time - England lead Australia - 10/7

51mins - Penalty England, Farrell scores / Adv England - 13/7

(Note / 2nd half is all about Wallaby attack v English defence)

(Note / The English defence has been incredible)

74mins - Try England, Farrell scores from the toe ahead / Farrell converts / Adv England - 20/7

(Note / Monster scrum demolition to finish the game off by England [78mins])

79mins - Penalty England, Farrell scores. Penalty from the huge scrum / Adv England - 23/7

80:00 - Full Time - England defeat Australia - 23/7


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Game Rating: 8/10

Not as free flowing as the first test due to wet conditions, but easily as entertaining. Australia had 70% of the possession & launched wave after wave of attack, but England dug deep an repelled the Aussie raids with an epic defensive display. England win their first test series on Australian soil & retain the Cook Cup.


(England also leapfrog Australia in the World Rugby Rankings to claim 2nd spot)
[ Edited by SportOvaFilmTV on Jun 18, 2016 at 5:05 AM ]
Eddie Jones is the most dangerous coach in the history of rugby, i hated him for that when he steered the Wallabies, they were the kryptonite to the Allblacks in that era and I was glad he was gone plus a few class players. Now i respect him and England showed a true defensive game after so many phases by the Wallabies, wet ground yes, but the better more tired team won.
If the best team of all time in the world played England, lets just say it wouldve at least been a close match at 1 all draw with
the third test pending and AB's to win just.imo.
Dissappointing for the last 5 minutes of the AllBlack defence, and Crotty's leg just got grounded over the sideline. Watching the other rugby show is a must as well, fast entertainment,
Will the Wabberlies ever get good again?
Originally posted by 4x4niner:
Eddie Jones is the most dangerous coach in the history of rugby, i hated him for that when he steered the Wallabies, they were the kryptonite to the Allblacks in that era and I was glad he was gone plus a few class players. Now i respect him and England showed a true defensive game after so many phases by the Wallabies, wet ground yes, but the better more tired team won.

I've actually liked Eddie ever since his assistant coaching role with the 2007 RWC winning Springboks side. His masterstrokes with firstly the Japanese at RWC 2015 & now with England in the 2016 Six Nations & Cook Cup Test series in Australia have just reaffirmed that belief. Prior to that I thought he was a great Super Rugby coach with the Brumbies, but a guy who inherited Rod Macqueen's golden era Wallabies. A team that won the Bledisloe Cup in 98 & held it throughout the rest of Macqueen's tenure. They also won the 99 RWC & the Tri Nations for the first time in 2000. Macqueen finished his reign with a hard fought 2001 Lions Series victory.

It took awhile in my opinion for Jones to emerge out of Macqueen's shadow & prove his worth on the International stage.

Originally posted by 4x4niner:
If the best team of all time in the world played England, lets just say it wouldve at least been a close match at 1 all draw with
the third test pending and AB's to win just.imo.

That was one of the best defensive displays I've seen in many years. Almost a Rugby-Rope-a-dope from the English side, nailing the knockout blow with the Owen Farrell try. I certainly think this team would trouble a rebuilding NZ side, however NZ is the best attacking side in the world so I'm not sure England could gift them 70% possesion & expect to win.


Originally posted by 4x4niner:
Dissappointing for the last 5 minutes of the AllBlack defence, and Crotty's leg just got grounded over the sideline. Watching the other rugby show is a must as well, fast entertainment,

Agree, NZ took their foot off the gas & let some soft tries in. One thing I will say is I don't think NZ could have won the game England did under the same circumstances relying on defence. They tend to win by blowing teams away with attack.

There was a 10 minute period where the ABs essentially won the game by going on a scoring spree against Wales.
Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Will the Wabberlies ever get good again?

The Wallabies drew the short end of the stick unfortunately, Rabbits.

The Six Nations champs in red hot form first up is a tough ask.

Also factor in the team is coached by a guy who knows a hell of a lot about Australian rugby & boasts a young superstar (future best player in the world) Maro Itoje.
Originally posted by SportOvaFilmTV:
Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Will the Wabberlies ever get good again?

The Wallabies drew the short end of the stick unfortunately, Rabbits.

The Six Nations champs in red hot form first up is a tough ask.

Also factor in the team is coached by a guy who knows a hell of a lot about Australian rugby & boasts a young superstar (future best player in the world) Maro Itoje.

Just watched the replay of the 2nd Test between Ireland & South Africa... I must say, it feels like Ireland blew a great opportunity to be the first home nation to win a series on South African soil.

They led 19/3 at half time & even after South Africa mounted a comeback, Ireland still had an eleven point lead with eleven minutes left on the clock.

Woeful defence in the 2nd half by the Irish, falling off way too many easy tackles is the main catalyst for the loss. It was so disappointing to see this after how well they defended last week with only fourteen players on the pitch.

South Africa has all the momentum going into the 3rd Test & Ireland will have to play the game of their lives to get a victory. I very much doubt this will happen.
[ Edited by SportOvaFilmTV on Jun 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM ]
Maro Itoje was quiet and Ireland got the better of themselves didnt know how to finish RSA off.
Itoje was quiet in attack 4x4, but so was the whole England team as Australia had the bulk of the possession. He was a beast in the set piece & on defence though.

You're right about Ireland. The game was theirs to lose & lose it, they did.

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DAMMMMMNNNNN!

Ma'a Nonu got knocked the f**k out by Anthony Tuitavake...

(Video in link)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/81231957/maa-nonu-knocked-out-as-toulon-set-up-top-14-final-with-dan-carters-racing-92

2nd time I've seen it happen actually... He got knocked out ages ago after clashing heads with Casey Laulala.
Originally posted by SportOvaFilmTV:
Itoje was quiet in attack 4x4, but so was the whole England team as Australia had the bulk of the possession. He was a beast in the set piece & on defence though.

You're right about Ireland. The game was theirs to lose & lose it, they did.

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DAMMMMMNNNNN!

Ma'a Nonu got knocked the f**k out by Anthony Tuitavake...

(Video in link)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/81231957/maa-nonu-knocked-out-as-toulon-set-up-top-14-final-with-dan-carters-racing-92

2nd time I've seen it happen actually... He got knocked out ages ago after clashing heads with Casey Laulala.
Maa bent downward for a tackle and tuitavake just bumped him upward push, Maa will get one back, samoa vs tonga, the pasifika war!
[ Edited by 4x4niner on Jun 19, 2016 at 7:42 PM ]
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