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Lebron vs. His Airness

Originally posted by sacniner:
Dude, do you have all these stats memorized? Lol

If he thought Kerr was gonna get it done he wasn't watching. Kerr got his shots off MJ and Pip. He wasn't creating no looks. He was a role player for a reason. What MJ did he won doing it. 6 for 6 says it all. We talking about road game closeouts. You gotta ride your stars in those situations.
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Jun 5, 2015 at 11:45 AM ]
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Dude, do you have all these stats memorized? Lol

If he thought Kerr was gonna get it done he wasn't watching. Kerr got his shots off MJ and Pip. He wasn't creating no looks. He was a role player for a reason. What MJ did he won doing it. 6 for 6 says it all. We talking about road game closeouts. You gotta ride your stars in those situations.

LA is just an encyclopedia of NBA stats. Its amazing.
Originally posted by Tman:
There is a lot of hate for lebron, it started with the decision then the douchery that was the "big 3" on the heat and now it's carried with him. For my perspective I am a "hater" of lebron and it seems to grow every time I watch him play. He is an amazing talent but it's his attitude and gestures on the court that I can't stand. He openly flails around if a call doesn't go his way, complains constantly to the refs, meanwhile he is committing offensive fouls more often then not whenever he drives the ball into the paint or post. The refs rarely call it because he is who he is and I understand that. I'm probably the opposite of 4ML and will openly root against lebron wherever he plays and get thorough enjoyment to see the look on his face when he loses.

Oh yea and Jordan is still the best

I can't hate LeBron. He is a great player but this is a comparison thread. I would be pulling for him it he wasn't playing the bay
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Dude, do you have all these stats memorized? Lol

If he thought Kerr was gonna get it done he wasn't watching. Kerr got his shots off MJ and Pip. He wasn't creating no looks. He was a role player for a reason. What MJ did he won doing it. 6 for 6 says it all. We talking about road game closeouts. You gotta ride your stars in those situations.

He would of went 8 for 8 if he didn't retire.

When he retired the first time players got excited because the title was up for grabs. There are numerous great players that are on record saying that.
Originally posted by sacniner:
LA is just an encyclopedia of NBA stats. Its amazing.

Google?
As the offal Judge of the WZ Forums, I rule that pillbusta is way more upset and ragefull about this topic. He should attack the post and not the poster and this would be a much more interesting debate.

This court is adjourned.

Of course Kerr got his looks off of the shot creators like MJ, Pippen, Kukoc, & even Harper (going back to the embarrassment of riches they had).

So what does it say when he doesn't get a shot in half of the game?
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
He would of went 8 for 8 if he didn't retire.

When he retired the first time players got excited because the title was up for grabs. There are numerous great players that are on record saying that.

Exactly!
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Of course Kerr got his looks off of the shot creators like MJ, Pippen, Kukoc, & even Harper (going back to the embarrassment of riches they had).

So what does it say when he doesn't get a shot in half of the game?

It says he won a tough road game led by his star in a three peat. You about stats. What's MJ playoff assist stats? He passed when he could or had to
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Jun 5, 2015 at 12:05 PM ]
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by sacniner:
LA is just an encyclopedia of NBA stats. Its amazing.

Google?

Hard to get some of the super specific ones man... i mean who has the time. I'm busy posting here when i get a quick chance lol.

The who is better now and then arguments could go on forever because they are so subjective and have so many variables.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Hard to get some of the super specific ones man... i mean who has the time. I'm busy posting here when i get a quick chance lol.

The who is better now and then arguments could go on forever because they are so subjective and have so many variables.

True
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Of course Kerr got his looks off of the shot creators like MJ, Pippen, Kukoc, & even Harper (going back to the embarrassment of riches they had).

So what does it say when he doesn't get a shot in half of the game?

It says he won a tough road game led by his star in a three peat. You about stats. What's MJ playoff assist stats? He passed when he could or had to

LOL, no...it says that he didn't create many looks for his teammates, who happened to be on fire that night when they did get a chance to shoot.

Guys like you take a team win and simply credit it to the best player on the team. His supporting casts on those teams were ridiculous, and don't get near their just due. You don't even have to be hypothetical about it. They actually were really good without him, with the worst starting SG in the league (Myers) taking his place.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
LOL, no...it says that he didn't create many looks for his teammates, who happened to be on fire that night when they did get a chance to shoot.

Guys like you take a team win and simply credit it to the best player on the team. His supporting casts on those teams were ridiculous, and don't get near their just due. You don't even have to be hypothetical about it. They actually were really good without him, with the worst starting SG in the league (Myers) taking his place.

You generalizing me now? Putting words in my mouth. I know a team wins but your stars gotta step up in the playoffs. I believe MJ actually raised his game postseason. Assists included. Am I wrong? I'm on mobile so I ain't googling stats butMJ made plays for others too. Guys like me huh? You all knowing or something? Opinions differ so you gotta deal with it. Generalizing guys won't cut it always
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Until LeBron matches the chips Kobe's acquired he gotta take the back seat to him. Sorry but that's just the way leaders are measured. I fully believe LeBron has the potential to pass Kobe and maybe one day MJ but he's gotta do it first and so far he has come up short on the court. Off the court I feel he is a better person than either guy but we talking ball here not likeability

If LeBron had prime Shaq that duo would be more unstoppable than Kobe and Shaq.
Originally posted by 9erReign:
If LeBron had prime Shaq that duo would be more unstoppable than Kobe and Shaq.

You can make the argument for sure. If Shaq didn't get jealous of LeBron they would've lasted as a pair longer because LeBron is fine with playmaking and dishing whereas Kobe eventually wanted the Finals MVPs and that wasn't happening with the Diesel.
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Jun 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM ]
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