Originally posted by 80849er4life:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 80849er4life:
Originally posted by jimrat201:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by BobS:
We now have a center named Noah (6'11 232) and a power forward Garnett (6'11" 220) who are known for physical play and rebounding, I would say they aren't any bigger than their 80's counter parts. Their are just as many tooth picks running around today as 30 years ago and just as many tight end looking types in the 1980's[ as 2011.
And McHale or Parish would probably own Noah.
None of these guys today would be able to guard McHale, his low post moves where unreal.
Dwight Howard would D him up.....
Or he would foul out. McHale would keep his feet and pivot sound enough to keep Howard from leaving the ground or punishing him if he does leave the ground.
He can pivot all he wants size and strength would push and keep him out of the paint.....he would have to shoot jumper all day against Howard.
No one is allowed to push a player out. The only thing that would keep McHale out of the key would be Howards quickness to move laterally with each move McHale makes, otherwise, it's a foul. This is why size (not height) and strength is highly over rated. You must be able to move your feet laterally quick enough to stop a move towards the basket.
They are both the same height, therefore, Howard would ultimately rely on his leaping ability to block McHale's shot or his quickness and move to stop penetration but a sound player can always find a way to be successful vs a player who relies on his leaping too much.
There's also the good ole step over the defenders knee move while in the post. That stymies his ability to move or jump in that direction. These are little things that an excellent post player understands and is very crafty at using contact in his favor.
Today's post player relies heavily on the run around move or the jump stop short hook. Hardly do you see a player make a move, pick up the ball, keep his pivot and make two more moves with the pivot. Dirk has added this dimension. Hakeem was great at it and Bynum showed some awesome post moves this year with his pivot. But players like Howard and Garnett still rely on that run one way with a possible second move but always resorting to a jump/short fade type of shot. Rarely do these guys keep there feet well enough to lean into the basket for that final move.
[ Edited by Joecool on Jun 7, 2011 at 14:55:10 ]