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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by okdkid:

What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Restructure scam. You can't simply renegotiate a contract down for the same number years. So you add a year but make it voidable so it doesn't really count.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Yup. I hate when we use void years for that reason. No matter what you are creating dead cap when that's used.

I hope it's worth it - all to keep Jimmy for that blockbuster pick. Those of you who are so worried about the cap should be all over Lynch for this - using dead cap space to buy an unconfirmed pick that could easily be a day 3 or nothing.

It's only dead money if they don't get resigned. Like Ford's restructures are killing us in dead money. But we keep pushing it down the road. Kittle will get a new big contract that will eat the dead money.
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Yup. I hate when we use void years for that reason. No matter what you are creating dead cap when that's used.

I hope it's worth it - all to keep Jimmy for that blockbuster pick. Those of you who are so worried about the cap should be all over Lynch for this - using dead cap space to buy an unconfirmed pick that could easily be a day 3 or nothing.

It's only dead money if they don't get resigned. Like Ford's restructures are killing us in dead money. But we keep pushing it down the road. Kittle will get a new big contract that will eat the dead money.

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How far over were the 49ers prior to the restructures?
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Yup. I hate when we use void years for that reason. No matter what you are creating dead cap when that's used.

I hope it's worth it - all to keep Jimmy for that blockbuster pick. Those of you who are so worried about the cap should be all over Lynch for this - using dead cap space to buy an unconfirmed pick that could easily be a day 3 or nothing.

It's only dead money if they don't get resigned. Like Ford's restructures are killing us in dead money. But we keep pushing it down the road. Kittle will get a new big contract that will eat the dead money.

Because we're extending him beyond his ability to play productively. Both Kittle and Amrstead are good players but could both, particularly Kittle end up in a scenario like we have with Ford? Well, yeah given Kittle's injury history and position. I'm just saying as bmvantiel said, "buying" time with dead cap space (and then what I'm saying) for a player we should have already traded or cut doesn't make much sense to me.

All of this will be impacted by a large increase in the cap by 2024.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Yup. I hate when we use void years for that reason. No matter what you are creating dead cap when that's used.

I hope it's worth it - all to keep Jimmy for that blockbuster pick. Those of you who are so worried about the cap should be all over Lynch for this - using dead cap space to buy an unconfirmed pick that could easily be a day 3 or nothing.

It's only dead money if they don't get resigned. Like Ford's restructures are killing us in dead money. But we keep pushing it down the road. Kittle will get a new big contract that will eat the dead money.

Because we're extending him beyond his ability to play productively. Both Kittle and Amrstead are good players but could both, particularly Kittle end up in a scenario like we have with Ford? Well, yeah given Kittle's injury history and position. I'm just saying as bmvantiel said, "buying" time with dead cap space (and then what I'm saying) for a player we should have already traded or cut doesn't make much sense to me.

That's always the gamble on any contract. We cleared 8.33m now for a possible cap hit later.
Originally posted by FL9er:
How far over were the 49ers prior to the restructures?

We was over 7.1 before any players signed/resigned/restructured. We don't have numbers for details per year to know exactly now. Guessing around 4 under now.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

The cap. Lord.

If the Saints win 9 games and/or are a playoff team this year I'm going to have some serious questions.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Yes for players we're going to keep, not players we know we'll eventually trade and it's looking more like cut, meaning we get nothing. Unless the 49ers know for a fact they're going to get a decent pick out of this by buying time with dead cap space, this doesn't make any sense.

I hear you man but I'm trying to see where the team wins in this tradeoff and if you're going to gamble, at least do so with a decent chance of winning.

They are doing all of this because they still think he is valuable (hes not).

Theyll end up with a 2024 3rd round comp pick after his contract expires
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
That's always the gamble on any contract. We cleared 8.33m now for a possible cap hit later.

Yes for players we're going to keep, not players we know we'll eventually trade and it's looking more like cut, meaning we get nothing. Unless the 49ers know for a fact they're going to get a decent pick out of this by buying time with dead cap space, this doesn't make any sense.

I hear you man but I'm trying to see where the team wins in this tradeoff and if you're going to gamble, at least do so with a decent chance of winning.

But there's no need to cut him now. We can talk to anyone. Only reason to cut him would be FA we're talking to says sign me now. If they do that's when we cut him. If no FA is demanding sign now why the rush to cut him?
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

The cap. Lord.

If the Saints win 9 games and/or are a playoff team this year I'm going to have some serious questions.

Lol, like what questions? Money didn't just disappear.
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Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does, "adding one more void year" mean? That once his contract ends there is still dead cap the following year?

Yup. I hate when we use void years for that reason. No matter what you are creating dead cap when that's used.

Agree. I don't like it either. Really destroys cap flexibility in future years (example Dee Ford restructurings). They are gambling that both Kittle and Arik don't get injured like Dee Ford and be dead weight during their careers. It's a reasonable gamble, but still a gamble.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
That's always the gamble on any contract. We cleared 8.33m now for a possible cap hit later.

Yes for players we're going to keep, not players we know we'll eventually trade and it's looking more like cut, meaning we get nothing. Unless the 49ers know for a fact they're going to get a decent pick out of this by buying time with dead cap space, this doesn't make any sense.

I hear you man but I'm trying to see where the team wins in this tradeoff and if you're going to gamble, at least do so with a decent chance of winning.

Agree. And a possibility that's developing in my mind, still a remote possibility of course. Is the fact that if they keep Jimmy until the trade deadline this October, they might get more draft capital than trading him right now. Thats a *big* if though. I'm confident they can trade him prior to the draft, because I think that would help them get into the first round if they needed to - with all their draft capital. Tom Brady unretiring and the Jimmy shoulder operation were unexpected developments that depressed Jimmy's trade value for sure.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
They are doing all of this because they still think he is valuable (hes not).

Theyll end up with a 2024 3rd round comp pick after his contract expires

That's what I think too. We have to cut him soon. Teams know that. If there's no high demand market, there's no urgency with time. Basically the NFL has said "yeah, we can wait for all that to play out."

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
But there's no need to cut him now. We can talk to anyone. Only reason to cut him would be FA we're talking to says sign me now. If they do that's when we cut him. If no FA is demanding sign now why the rush to cut him?

FA is a fast cash business. Sure we can talk to anyone but in order to make the deal happen we're going to have to continue to approach players to kick more cans down the road eating up dead cap space. Could we find it in a press? I'm sure of it but again I thought the whole point of having a rook QB was that you could actually enjoy the advantage of signing difference makers in other parts of the team without mortgaging the future? I get it we don't have to cut him now but you haven't made a good argument for keeping him. And the only outcome I hearing for keeping him is more future dead cap space and possibly, possibly a day 3 pick?

I get what you're saying but again I don't see the upside at all.

Don't get me wrong. He isn't making it to camp. Let alone the season. Just no need to cut him today.
Ok, before the Ward, Burks, & McCloud deals, the 49ers are under by $7,972,615, I should have Ward & Burks details later today, all I know is Ward's deal is backloaded cap wise.
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