49ers 2026 Salary Cap=$36,401,561 as of 3/19/26 on a $301.2M cap before Kirk/Waitman

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Are those 3rd RD comp picks including the one they got for Saleh or on top of that pick?

The #49ers receive three compensatory picks, the NFL announces. They receive third-round selections (Nos. 102 & 103) for Robert Saleh and Martin Mayhew leaving for HC and GM jobs. And they receive a fifth-round pick (No. 181) for losing Emmanuel Sanders last year as a free agent.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 10, 2021

AND SF will receive that in the 2022 and 2023 draft as well.

SF gets one extra 3rd in 2022 & one extra 3rd in 2023, also? Was that because of both Mayhew & Saleh? Would have it only been two 3rds if we only lost one of those guys?

Wouldn't they just get 2 more thirds next year and then it is done? Why is 2023 in play?

Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Are those 3rd RD comp picks including the one they got for Saleh or on top of that pick?

The #49ers receive three compensatory picks, the NFL announces. They receive third-round selections (Nos. 102 & 103) for Robert Saleh and Martin Mayhew leaving for HC and GM jobs. And they receive a fifth-round pick (No. 181) for losing Emmanuel Sanders last year as a free agent.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 10, 2021

AND SF will receive that in the 2022 and 2023 draft as well.

SF gets one extra 3rd in 2022 & one extra 3rd in 2023, also? Was that because of both Mayhew & Saleh? Would have it only been two 3rds if we only lost one of those guys?

Wouldn't they just get 2 more thirds next year and then it is done? Why is 2023 in play?

This is great news but fans should be WAY more excited for the three 5th rounders!

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

Seems like a decent amount of talent there, pretty rare to see that many good names in one offseason. This gives me hope that we can at least sign Hyder back. I was worried he could command 10+ mil a year, but I don't see that the case anymore with some many good ERs.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

Seems like a decent amount of talent there, pretty rare to see that many good names in one offseason. This gives me hope that we can at least sign Hyder back. I was worried he could command 10+ mil a year, but I don't see that the case anymore with some many good ERs.

That's the case with a lot of positions. It's why I haven't been worried about this off-season. My stance has always been that if there's no upward cap movement or players taking cuts(both helping us out anyways) that the market would be so saturated that contracts will be dirt cheap.

The talent pool will also get bigger as we get closer to FA if there's no deal with the NFLPA on player pay cuts. The Saints released a buttload of talent and still have to free up another 32 mil just to get to the cap, so that means they're going to have to dump about 50 mil or more in contracts to sign rookies and fill out their roster.
Then think about the dearth of teams in the red as well. The amount of talent in free agency this year will be unprecedented.

Let's just look at the center market too:

Dan Feeny(Feeenayyyyy) chargers center, played 100% of their snaps
Ted Karras - Dolphins center, played 100% of their snaps
Austin Blythe - Rams Center - played 100% of their snaps
Nick Martin - Texans Center - played 100% of their snaps
Alex Mack
Austin Reiter KC, played almost 80% of their snaps but was out during the SB
David Andrews - Patriots
Corey Lisnley
Matt SKura - Ravens

That's 9 starting caliber or better centers on the open market as of right now.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Really dumb that there was a decrease. I understand they made less money due to pandemic, but these owners are billionaires. An extra $15 mil each to at least stay at same cap would be nothing to them. Especially considering a lot of teams don't even use the full cap, so you'd just be rolling it over to the next year.

Ah yes but we are talking about some greedy f**kers. Better f**k the veteran players than themselves

Lol
you guys have no idea the debt load these owners carry

Using rice here's an example of what one billon is: One grain of rice equals $10,000 bucks Then 10,000 grains of rice equal one billon. That's over 50 pounds of rice. There is NO nfl owner that is 'hurting' due to the drop in revenue from the virus.

Originally posted by IGSXIII:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Are those 3rd RD comp picks including the one they got for Saleh or on top of that pick?

The #49ers receive three compensatory picks, the NFL announces. They receive third-round selections (Nos. 102 & 103) for Robert Saleh and Martin Mayhew leaving for HC and GM jobs. And they receive a fifth-round pick (No. 181) for losing Emmanuel Sanders last year as a free agent.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 10, 2021

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

You forgot Carl Lawson

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Really dumb that there was a decrease. I understand they made less money due to pandemic, but these owners are billionaires. An extra $15 mil each to at least stay at same cap would be nothing to them. Especially considering a lot of teams don't even use the full cap, so you'd just be rolling it over to the next year.

Ah yes but we are talking about some greedy f**kers. Better f**k the veteran players than themselves

Lol
you guys have no idea the debt load these owners carry

Using rice here's an example of what one billon is: One grain of rice equals $10,000 bucks Then 10,000 grains of rice equal one billon. That's over 50 pounds of rice. There is NO nfl owner that is 'hurting' due to the drop in revenue from the virus.

Look, I'm no lover of billionaires, but, just because someone is worth a billion doesn't mean they have a billion. The value is also considering the values of their stadiums - which many are paying large financing bills on. Not saying these guys are hurting by any means, but, again, you're talking about guys who lost over 100 mil in revenue each who are then going to eat more of that loss by not having a cap based off the % of revenue already set. While we can call it "greed" these guys didn't get to where they were by throwing away 100 million dollars a year. It's a business and no smart business person will just roll over and eat the losses entirely.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

You forgot Carl Lawson

No, I left him out on purpose. I don't see a ton of productivity there. His highest productive season was 8 sacks and that was what, 3 years ago and had 4 or 5 combined sacks the past 2 years. Just about everyone else on the list has posted at least one double digit sack season. Matt Judon was the only one who hasn't but he's been consistently decent in production with years of 7, 7, 9.5 and 6, so I think paired with our DL you could see him get 8+ sacks.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

You forgot Carl Lawson

Honestly I'd rather take Dunlap, Lawson or Aldon over Hyder.
Floyd, Ingram, Shaq, Judon and Dupree will be paid a lot. Some will be overpaid.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Really dumb that there was a decrease. I understand they made less money due to pandemic, but these owners are billionaires. An extra $15 mil each to at least stay at same cap would be nothing to them. Especially considering a lot of teams don't even use the full cap, so you'd just be rolling it over to the next year.

Ah yes but we are talking about some greedy f**kers. Better f**k the veteran players than themselves

Lol
you guys have no idea the debt load these owners carry

Using rice here's an example of what one billon is: One grain of rice equals $10,000 bucks Then 10,000 grains of rice equal one billon. That's over 50 pounds of rice. There is NO nfl owner that is 'hurting' due to the drop in revenue from the virus.

Look, I'm no lover of billionaires, but, just because someone is worth a billion doesn't mean they have a billion. The value is also considering the values of their stadiums - which many are paying large financing bills on. Not saying these guys are hurting by any means, but, again, you're talking about guys who lost over 100 mil in revenue each who are then going to eat more of that loss by not having a cap based off the % of revenue already set. While we can call it "greed" these guys didn't get to where they were by throwing away 100 million dollars a year. It's a business and no smart business person will just roll over and eat the losses entirely.

Agree. And ill just add that our system is better than china's system. Here you piss off President trump, you get extra draft picks. In China, you piss of the president there, you are never seen again.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
No, I left him out on purpose. I don't see a ton of productivity there. His highest productive season was 8 sacks and that was what, 3 years ago and had 4 or 5 combined sacks the past 2 years. Just about everyone else on the list has posted at least one double digit sack season. Matt Judon was the only one who hasn't but he's been consistently decent in production with years of 7, 7, 9.5 and 6, so I think paired with our DL you could see him get 8+ sacks.

Disappointed to see this from you, jd. Numbers don't tell the entire story. You gotta fire up the tape. The dude got limited snaps but won and won a lot with power, get off and technique. I don't remember the exact rankings, but I believe Carl Lawson had as many pressures in 100 less snaps as the top edge in 2017 as a rookie.

He's got some of the best hand techniques in the league and understands how to maximize angles, hand placement, pad level and footwork. Lawson's pressures and sacks aren't cheapie, low-quality pressures(ie manufactured, clean up, coverage). The guy consistently wins his one-on-one. He has the second best longarm move in the NFL only to Khalil Mack. Combined with his natural leverage(6'2") and power(35 reps), nobody sends more tackles flying onto their ass than Carl Lawson. When tackles try to counter his longarm by jump setting him or getting aggressive with their pass sets, he's got a violent cross-chop as a counter. Lawson is just an all-around fantastic pass rusher.

Now, if you're concerned about his durability, then that's a legit concern. That's where I take pause. I love Lawson, but his injuries do worry me.

This longarm is a thing of beauty.


Here's that cross-chop I referenced.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Just a glimpse at the Edge free agent class I'm interested in. Remember, we have the 9th most cap space, so it's not like there's a ton of teams that will be going into bidding wars on these guys and there's going to be players on this list that will come VERY cheap commensurate with their value:

Leonard Floyd - 10.5 sacks in 2020 - Rams
Melvin Ingram
Shaquile Barrett
Bud Dupree
Matt Judon
JaDaveon Clowney
Yannick Ngokue
Olivier Vernon
Kerry Hyder
Aldon Smith
Everson Griffen
Kyler Fackrell(10.5 sacks in 2018, there is talent there)
Markus Golden(12.5 sacks in 2016, 10 sacks in 2019)
Ryan Kerrigan
Carlos Dunlap

I think we get one of these guys and I think any of them would get good production being on the same line with Bosa/AA/Kinlaw

You forgot Carl Lawson

Honestly I'd rather take Dunlap, Lawson or Aldon over Hyder.
Floyd, Ingram, Shaq, Judon and Dupree will be paid a lot. Some will be overpaid.

I'd take Griffen, Fackrell, Golden, Kerrigan or Ngokue over Dunlap or Lawson.
Dunlap wasn't great last year. There's talent for sure, but if we have options - which we can see we do, then I'd take one of those guys over Dunlap and I'm not real sold on Lawson.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
No, I left him out on purpose. I don't see a ton of productivity there. His highest productive season was 8 sacks and that was what, 3 years ago and had 4 or 5 combined sacks the past 2 years. Just about everyone else on the list has posted at least one double digit sack season. Matt Judon was the only one who hasn't but he's been consistently decent in production with years of 7, 7, 9.5 and 6, so I think paired with our DL you could see him get 8+ sacks.

Disappointed to see this from you, jd. Numbers don't tell the entire story. You gotta fire up the tape. The dude got limited snaps but won and won a lot with power, get off and technique. I don't remember the exact rankings, but I believe Carl Lawson had as many pressures in 100 less snaps as the top edge in 2017 as a rookie.

He's got some of the best hand techniques in the league and understands how to maximize angles, hand placement, pad level & footwork. Lawson's pressures and sacks aren't cheapie, low-quality pressures(ie manufactured, clean up, coverage). The guy consistently wins his one-on-one. He has the second best longarm move in the NFL only to Khalil Mack. Combined with his natural leverage(6'2") and power(35 reps), nobody sends more tackles flying onto their ass than Carl Lawson. When tackles try to counter his longarm by jump setting him or getting aggressive with their pass sets, he's got a violet cross-chop as a counter. Lawson is just an all-around fantastic pass rusher.

Now, if you're concerned about his durability, then that's a legit concern. That's where I take pause. I love Lawson, but his injuries do worry me.

This longarm is a thing of beauty.

Carl Lawson (@carllawson55) is elite at going speed to power. Uses the long arm to walk the blocker back into Watson & hit him.

FYI: He bench pressed 225 lbs 35 times at the 2017 NFL Combine! #passrush #freeagent

via @585Report pic.twitter.com/XvFHBQEHkJ

— DLineVids (@dlinevids1) March 10, 2021

Here's that cross-chop I referenced.

Carl Lawson (@carllawson55) has a good looking cross chop/club that he can use as well! #freeagent #passrush pic.twitter.com/UC2l2tAjus

— DLineVids (@dlinevids1) March 10, 2021

Good stuff. I'll be completely honest....I don't think I've ever paid attention to him on film.

Well then....Add another one to the mix! LOL. That's a LOT of talent at edge with 9 teams in the red and only 8 teams with more space. Bring it on y'all. If we can somehow get Ford to either retire or pass a physical so we can cut his arse and cut Richburg, I think we'll be just fine.

Shoot, I'm even down for kicking the tires on Josh Norman. He'll get a small contract and was most effective in a C3 based scheme like Sherm.