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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
No. We just did a roster reset this year and we've signed our young QB to a new deal. We're in a new window and we just went 13-6 made the final 8 with a MASH unit. I think we will be just fine

Wasn't a full reset. Still relying on older veterans like Trent, Mccaffrey and Juscyk. I give this regime credit for winning 13 games but the easy schedule definitely played a part in that. They need to draft much better and get younger and stronger and faster if they want any chance of winning the division anytime soon.
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Just reopened during a retool year... could be wide open as soon as next season with no screen to let all the flies in
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Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
This postseason was very telling, we are far behind Seattle and LA. I would say yes

we beat them both once last year.

the last matchups were the injured unit.

we are not "far behind"
Well I wish someone would close the dang thing. The injury bugs keep flying in.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Windows are always open if you draft well and have a great QB+head coach. Unfortunately, the 49ers don't draft well, so until they stack multiple good drafts with some HUGE hits on impact players, they're not winning the SB.

I'm going to keep repeating this s**t in every thread: the Niners have zero impact players 25 years old or younger. Z-e-r-o

You must have missed the Twitter plays from Collins and Williams

This is the sad reality. This team just can't draft.
should close it for my mental health.
In these days of free agency, I don't believe in the existence of a SB window. The worst team can be turned around and ready to challenge within 2 or 3 years.
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Originally posted by English:
In these days of free agency, I don't believe in the existence of a SB window. The worst team can be turned around and ready to challenge within 2 or 3 years.

Specially if you already have a good HC/QB combo. But don't say it too loud, it doesn't fit the narrative that the Niners are doomed and that we're back in 2003/2010 Niners hell land.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
You must have missed the Twitter plays from Collins and Williams

This is the sad reality. This team just can't draft.

Collins literally was the reason for two of the 49ers wins this year. DL's usually take time to come along and he showed enough for people to be interested in his continued development. West came on towards the end of the season and the 49ers run defense fell off a cliff once Williams got injured.

Having all those guys back plus Bosa and whatever else they add to the DL this offseason will only help.
Originally posted by English:
In these days of free agency, I don't believe in the existence of a SB window. The worst team can be turned around and ready to challenge within 2 or 3 years.

Honestly, this.

The Patriots were 4-13 last season. 4-13. They are now less than 4 hours of really good football away from a title.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
You must have missed the Twitter plays from Collins and Williams

This is the sad reality. This team just can't draft.

Collins literally was the reason for two of the 49ers wins this year. DL's usually take time to come along and he showed enough for people to be interested in his continued development. West came on towards the end of the season and the 49ers run defense fell off a cliff once Williams got injured.

Having all those guys back plus Bosa and whatever else they add to the DL this offseason will only help.

You mean you use your eyes and watching the actual games to determine how good a player looks? You don't just skip it all and use 5-second Twitter posts?

Blasphemy!
Originally posted by niner4life21:
We have no receivers.

We have no promising young OL. Puni regressed a lot.

Kittle is done.

McCaffrey is clearly not a good/efficient runner anymore and we have a coach who refuses to spell him even though we constantly draft RBs and traded for Robinson.

We have no pass rush and are banking on near-30 yr old Bosa coming off his 3rd ACL tear to get us back to form? Pass rush was a weakness even with Bosa.

We have no playmakers in the secondary. Our inability to generate turnovers goes back to 2024. The talent at starting safety is average at best.

We have a revolving door at D-Coordinator and the wide 9 scheme that Shanahan insists on running is stale, uncreative, and dependent on elite players which we don't have.

Our division rivals are much younger and faster than us on both sides of the ball.

We can't stay healthy. Going back to 2020, 3 of the last 6 seasons have been absolutely demolished by injuries. That is unheard of.

Don't get me wrong - 2025 was remarkable in what this team was able to accomplish. I was positive throughout, but I'm afraid the fandom/bias is starting to wear off and objectively things do not look good for the Niners. Not good at all.

We have Pearsall. Who can be a very good #2 WR. This draft has a lot of good WR talent and in general there has been a real influx of WR talent coming into the league recently. Clearly a big need but if there is a position Kyle has shown a knack for drafting it's WR.

Kittle is not done.

We were one of the best running teams in the NFL with Matt Breida as our lead back. I don't know how CMC will look next year after such a heavy load this season but I trust Kyle Shanahan to produce a solid running game.

Pass rush was not a weakness with Bosa, who just turned 28 in October of this year btw. Not sure why you have to dramatize all of these points.

We had 10 pressures vs Seattle, 22 vs Saints and 22 vs Arizona.
We had 247 all year long. That's 22% of our team pressures in 3 out of 17 games.
We had 5 sacks in those 3 games, 20 on the season. That's 25% of our sacks in 3 out of 17 games.

And that's with teams actively trying to get the ball out quickly knowing Bosa is out there.

The rest of the stuff you said is a mix of accurate and overreactions. We don't have playmakers in the secondary but that goes hand in hand with lack of pass rush.

Our division rivals weren't getting far with us running the division so they had to shed bad contracts, get younger and faster....almost like we're doing. Only downside for us is we held onto players for too long and didn't get good returns like Seattle did or Rams did. That's partly luck and partly poor timing. Aiyuk flaking on the team after signing his contract. Lance getting injured, then Garoppolo.

Either way it's all about hitting in the draft. You do that and you can bounce back very quickly. Purdy is the right guy with Shanahan. Now they just have to build around him. If they could do that with Garoppolo I trust they can do that with Brock.
Originally posted by jcs:
Our offense is the 2nd oldest in the league with our starters avg 29.18 years old to start the 2025 season. Did Kyle continue to trot this same group next year or do we see a shift?

It's that way in large part due to 3 players Trent, Juice and Kittle. Obviously not ideal since two of those guys are franchise cornerstones and arguably best at their position but it's a quick enough path to adding youth on there.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Windows are always open if you draft well and have a great QB+head coach. Unfortunately, the 49ers don't draft well, so until they stack multiple good drafts with some HUGE hits on impact players, they're not winning the SB.

I'm going to keep repeating this s**t in every thread: the Niners have zero impact players 25 years old or younger. Z-e-r-o

You must have missed the Twitter plays from Collins and Williams

This is the sad reality. This team just can't draft.

For a guy with the name ninersrule...you sure love to say a lot of negative things.

Maybe learn to watch the game properly so you can understand when those "twitter plays" show growth, development and lead to good things from those players long term.

This team just can't draft and yet we're talking about a window closing...how was it ever opened if not by good drafting by this regime?
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by English:
In these days of free agency, I don't believe in the existence of a SB window. The worst team can be turned around and ready to challenge within 2 or 3 years.

Honestly, this.

The Patriots were 4-13 last season. 4-13. They are now less than 4 hours of really good football away from a title.

The Patriots spent $280 millionin free agency last year. They rebuilt their defense and added some solid vets on offense. Mike Vrabel brought in a new attitude. Drake Maye had a full year under his belt. All this helped them turn things around. A weak schedule helped a lot too.

The Niners don't have a ton to spend in free agency. They don't have high draft picks Their schedule will probably be toughe rnext season.
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