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Originally posted by Cosmo:
Remember when people were posting all those memes talking about Kyle being Sean's dad? Wasn't that because the Niners have been completely owning the Rams since Kyle took over? How did we get to this thread?
Originally posted by 49ers9797:
Originally posted by genus49:Um....yeah. 2022 is not that long ago.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by father49er:
In the McVay era, the Rams front office has consistently out-performed the 49ers front office. They beat the 9ers to Stafford and were willing to pay Adams. Kyle was relaxing on vacation while McVay and the Rams snatched Stafford. 9ers front office made multiple mistakes on over paying receivers and didn't pay the proven receiver in Adams. The downstream effect of missing out on Stafford was massive. These are just some examples. If the front office was as good as Kyle's coaching, I think 9ers wouldn't be behind the Rams.
We need to stop with this narrative. It's simply not true. First of all the Lions were never going to trade with the 49ers unless the 49ers offered an absurdly ridiculous trade offer that we all would've hated.
Lions new GM came from the Rams. They had the inside track not only because of that but because Stafford and McVay had a relationship, nothing crazy but more so than Kyle. The fact that he actually liked Goff meant the Rams could offer the Lions a starting QB and 2 first round picks. What would the 49ers offer to top that?
Not to mention Sean was also in Cabo, relaxing on vacation but god forbid we bring in facts when we can make Shanahan seem lazy...
My favorite nugget from the Stafford deal: Sean McVay & his fiancée Veronika were in Cabo while all this was going down. Stafford & his wife Kelly also happened to be there.
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 1, 2021
After the deal was done, they all met up to have dinner and to celebrate a fresh start, per @AlbertBreer.
Adams move had nothing to do with Stafford. It had to do with our roster. If you haven't figured it out the 49ers went into this season with realistic expectations and the irony is fans like you who are bashing the team for not putting a good enough roster together can't understand you're arguing against yourself with that logic.
You don't bring in big $ free agents at non critical positions when you think you're not ready for the big step.
If there is one thing that the 49ers have struggled with is holding onto talented players too long but part of that is also personalities of those players. We paid Deebo after his monster 2021 season because the guy literally carried us through that season. He was CMC before we got CMC. How do you let that guy walk in the prime of his career?
Same thing with Aiyuk. Monster 2023 season. If he doesn't injure his knee I doubt there is any bad blood there right now. But we didn't have a Jared Goff to send to another team. We didn't have a Jalen Ramsey. We had Buckner. Unfortunately we took a guy who couldn't stay healthy for us. The ironic thing was the rest of that draft was absolutely terrific. Every pick was a big time contributor.
Aiyuk - All pro level WR when he's healthy
Colton McKivitz - solid starter in the 5th round
Charlie Woerner - excellent blocking TE2 and a big loss we've still to overcome
Jauan Jennings - excellent WR3 and acted as our WR1/WR2 last two years and still performed well.
Oh yeah we also traded for Trent Williams.
And yet..our front office sucks cuz Kinlaw couldn't, stay healthy.
Sure. You're just explaining why they lost to the Ram's front office.
The excuses after excuses is just tiring. One thing I can understand, but it seems like there's 1000 reasons the rams are better, and none are Kyle's fault.
Give us the first 100...
King of hyperbole.
Stafford was vacationing with mcvay
Lions had an ex ram in the front office
Lions wouldn't trade to us
Lions required a kings ransom
Garrapolo audibled in the superbowl
Injuries to everyone
Kinlaw draft was "unfortunate"
Mcvay sucked without Stafford
We are just in different positions of the cycle and rebuilding
Kyle just hasn't had had great qb play yet( 9 years in)
Lance didn't work out, but at least they took a shot
I can keep going if you want me to
I asked for the reasons the rams are better since you said there are 1000 reasons they are.
So yes, please do keep going. Hell start with 50.
I said there were a thousand excuses made by supporters of our front office as to why the rams have done better recently. I didn't say there were a thousand reasons the rams were better. For that one ill give you two reasons. Shanahan and Lynch.
No you didn't...you claimed there are 1000 reasons the Rams are better. I expect you to list them.
Also using the logic you and others love to use...what have the Rams done lately that is better? Have they won a SB?
Literally the only difference in why McVay and Snead have a SB win and Shanahan and Lynch don't is because their defense was able to stop the other team holding a 3 point lead in the SB. A stop made by Aaron Donald, a guy already on the roster before McVay took over.
And the Rams faced a much weaker opponent. That's the only difference.
But yet here you guys are pretending they're lapping the 49ers simply because they got Matt Stafford in a trade that sent away another #1 overall QB who McVay already had on the roster when he took over.
Originally posted by jcs:
since our last SB in 95 the rams have gone 2-2 in the SB we have gone 0-3. 2 of those losses are on Kyle both of his games had a two score lead going into the 4th quarter and are considered in the top ten all time SB comeback wins for other teams.
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Remember when people were posting all those memes talking about Kyle being Sean's dad? Wasn't that because the Niners have been completely owning the Rams since Kyle took over? How did we get to this thread?
Originally posted by 49ers9797:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by father49er:
In the McVay era, the Rams front office has consistently out-performed the 49ers front office. They beat the 9ers to Stafford and were willing to pay Adams. Kyle was relaxing on vacation while McVay and the Rams snatched Stafford. 9ers front office made multiple mistakes on over paying receivers and didn't pay the proven receiver in Adams. The downstream effect of missing out on Stafford was massive. These are just some examples. If the front office was as good as Kyle's coaching, I think 9ers wouldn't be behind the Rams.
We need to stop with this narrative. It's simply not true. First of all the Lions were never going to trade with the 49ers unless the 49ers offered an absurdly ridiculous trade offer that we all would've hated.
Lions new GM came from the Rams. They had the inside track not only because of that but because Stafford and McVay had a relationship, nothing crazy but more so than Kyle. The fact that he actually liked Goff meant the Rams could offer the Lions a starting QB and 2 first round picks. What would the 49ers offer to top that?
Not to mention Sean was also in Cabo, relaxing on vacation but god forbid we bring in facts when we can make Shanahan seem lazy...
My favorite nugget from the Stafford deal: Sean McVay & his fiancée Veronika were in Cabo while all this was going down. Stafford & his wife Kelly also happened to be there.
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 1, 2021
After the deal was done, they all met up to have dinner and to celebrate a fresh start, per @AlbertBreer.
Adams move had nothing to do with Stafford. It had to do with our roster. If you haven't figured it out the 49ers went into this season with realistic expectations and the irony is fans like you who are bashing the team for not putting a good enough roster together can't understand you're arguing against yourself with that logic.
You don't bring in big $ free agents at non critical positions when you think you're not ready for the big step.
If there is one thing that the 49ers have struggled with is holding onto talented players too long but part of that is also personalities of those players. We paid Deebo after his monster 2021 season because the guy literally carried us through that season. He was CMC before we got CMC. How do you let that guy walk in the prime of his career?
Same thing with Aiyuk. Monster 2023 season. If he doesn't injure his knee I doubt there is any bad blood there right now. But we didn't have a Jared Goff to send to another team. We didn't have a Jalen Ramsey. We had Buckner. Unfortunately we took a guy who couldn't stay healthy for us. The ironic thing was the rest of that draft was absolutely terrific. Every pick was a big time contributor.
Aiyuk - All pro level WR when he's healthy
Colton McKivitz - solid starter in the 5th round
Charlie Woerner - excellent blocking TE2 and a big loss we've still to overcome
Jauan Jennings - excellent WR3 and acted as our WR1/WR2 last two years and still performed well.
Oh yeah we also traded for Trent Williams.
And yet..our front office sucks cuz Kinlaw couldn't, stay healthy.
Sure. You're just explaining why they lost to the Ram's front office.
The excuses after excuses is just tiring. One thing I can understand, but it seems like there's 1000 reasons the rams are better, and none are Kyle's fault.
Give us the first 100...
King of hyperbole.
Stafford was vacationing with mcvay
Lions had an ex ram in the front office
Lions wouldn't trade to us
Lions required a kings ransom
Garrapolo audibled in the superbowl
Injuries to everyone
Kinlaw draft was "unfortunate"
Mcvay sucked without Stafford
We are just in different positions of the cycle and rebuilding
Kyle just hasn't had had great qb play yet( 9 years in)
Lance didn't work out, but at least they took a shot
I can keep going if you want me to
I asked for the reasons the rams are better since you said there are 1000 reasons they are.
So yes, please do keep going. Hell start with 50.
We only need 4.
-They haven't busted on their first round picks in the last 9 years
-They don't make stupid draft trades (Trey Lance)
-They don't trade away superstar players (Buckner)
-They don't throw out massive extensions (95 mil in dead cap)
Oh and they won the Super Bowl. So 5 I guess.
Tough to argue against this.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49ers9797:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by father49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by father49er:
In the McVay era, the Rams front office has consistently out-performed the 49ers front office. They beat the 9ers to Stafford and were willing to pay Adams. Kyle was relaxing on vacation while McVay and the Rams snatched Stafford. 9ers front office made multiple mistakes on over paying receivers and didn't pay the proven receiver in Adams. The downstream effect of missing out on Stafford was massive. These are just some examples. If the front office was as good as Kyle's coaching, I think 9ers wouldn't be behind the Rams.
We need to stop with this narrative. It's simply not true. First of all the Lions were never going to trade with the 49ers unless the 49ers offered an absurdly ridiculous trade offer that we all would've hated.
Lions new GM came from the Rams. They had the inside track not only because of that but because Stafford and McVay had a relationship, nothing crazy but more so than Kyle. The fact that he actually liked Goff meant the Rams could offer the Lions a starting QB and 2 first round picks. What would the 49ers offer to top that?
Not to mention Sean was also in Cabo, relaxing on vacation but god forbid we bring in facts when we can make Shanahan seem lazy...
My favorite nugget from the Stafford deal: Sean McVay & his fiancée Veronika were in Cabo while all this was going down. Stafford & his wife Kelly also happened to be there.
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 1, 2021
After the deal was done, they all met up to have dinner and to celebrate a fresh start, per @AlbertBreer.
Adams move had nothing to do with Stafford. It had to do with our roster. If you haven't figured it out the 49ers went into this season with realistic expectations and the irony is fans like you who are bashing the team for not putting a good enough roster together can't understand you're arguing against yourself with that logic.
You don't bring in big $ free agents at non critical positions when you think you're not ready for the big step.
If there is one thing that the 49ers have struggled with is holding onto talented players too long but part of that is also personalities of those players. We paid Deebo after his monster 2021 season because the guy literally carried us through that season. He was CMC before we got CMC. How do you let that guy walk in the prime of his career?
Same thing with Aiyuk. Monster 2023 season. If he doesn't injure his knee I doubt there is any bad blood there right now. But we didn't have a Jared Goff to send to another team. We didn't have a Jalen Ramsey. We had Buckner. Unfortunately we took a guy who couldn't stay healthy for us. The ironic thing was the rest of that draft was absolutely terrific. Every pick was a big time contributor.
Aiyuk - All pro level WR when he's healthy
Colton McKivitz - solid starter in the 5th round
Charlie Woerner - excellent blocking TE2 and a big loss we've still to overcome
Jauan Jennings - excellent WR3 and acted as our WR1/WR2 last two years and still performed well.
Oh yeah we also traded for Trent Williams.
And yet..our front office sucks cuz Kinlaw couldn't, stay healthy.
Sure. You're just explaining why they lost to the Ram's front office.
The excuses after excuses is just tiring. One thing I can understand, but it seems like there's 1000 reasons the rams are better, and none are Kyle's fault.
Give us the first 100...
King of hyperbole.
Stafford was vacationing with mcvay
Lions had an ex ram in the front office
Lions wouldn't trade to us
Lions required a kings ransom
Garrapolo audibled in the superbowl
Injuries to everyone
Kinlaw draft was "unfortunate"
Mcvay sucked without Stafford
We are just in different positions of the cycle and rebuilding
Kyle just hasn't had had great qb play yet( 9 years in)
Lance didn't work out, but at least they took a shot
I can keep going if you want me to
I asked for the reasons the rams are better since you said there are 1000 reasons they are.
So yes, please do keep going. Hell start with 50.
We only need 4.
-They haven't busted on their first round picks in the last 9 years
-They don't make stupid draft trades (Trey Lance)
-They don't trade away superstar players (Buckner)
-They don't throw out massive extensions (95 mil in dead cap)
Oh and they won the Super Bowl. So 5 I guess.
Tough to argue against this.
lol this is such a pathetic attempt at an argument.
They haven't busted on their first round picks in the last 9 years? Could it be because they've only had 1 first round pick in the last 9 years? Can't draft busts in the first round if you don't have any first round picks.
They don't make stupid draft trades? Ok cool you got one. Must be nice to have a Jared Goff...oh a guy you traded up in the draft for so you can leverage blowing the SB with him so you can bring in Matt Stafford.
They don't trade away super star players? Jalen Ramsey doesn't count I guess. And look at all the SBs Bucker helped the Colts win...
They don't throw out massive extensions? Quick someone tell Todd Gurley, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Kupp and Jared Goff.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
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There is literally one thing they have over the 49ers. The Stafford trade. That's it.
In order to make that trade, not only did they find themselves in a perfect situation with one of their former personnel guys taking over the GM job with the Lions but the fact that he loved Jared Goff and they were able to leverage him as part of the trade.
They don't win the SB without Stafford. In fact without him McVay may be retired right now and Snead likely out of a job.
But these guys will go through gold medal worthy olympic level mental gymnastics to pretend Stafford would've easily been a 49er if Shanahan simply didn't go out to dinner that night.
3 times the 49ers had a 3 point lead in that 2023 SB in the 4th quarter or OT. The defense failed to stop them to give Shanahan and the 49ers a SB that season.
Rams got a gift of a call to help their offense and then saw Aaron Donald stop the Bengals with a 3 point lead to win it. Now suddenly McVay and the Rams are running circles around Shanahan and the 49ers.
Rams got a 10-7 Bengals team that had no business being in the SB.
Offense totally dependent on their QB and passing game with a piss poor OL and mediocre running game with a mid level defense. Nowhere near the same level of opponent as we've had to face and they really only made it after Tartt's drop and our inability to convert on 2nd and 1.
None of those had to do with Shanahan but I know these guys don't care.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Waiting to see the response
There is literally one thing they have over the 49ers. The Stafford trade. That's it.
In order to make that trade, not only did they find themselves in a perfect situation with one of their former personnel guys taking over the GM job with the Lions but the fact that he loved Jared Goff and they were able to leverage him as part of the trade.
They don't win the SB without Stafford. In fact without him McVay may be retired right now and Snead likely out of a job.
But these guys will go through gold medal worthy olympic level mental gymnastics to pretend Stafford would've easily been a 49er if Shanahan simply didn't go out to dinner that night.
3 times the 49ers had a 3 point lead in that 2023 SB in the 4th quarter or OT. The defense failed to stop them to give Shanahan and the 49ers a SB that season.
Rams got a gift of a call to help their offense and then saw Aaron Donald stop the Bengals with a 3 point lead to win it. Now suddenly McVay and the Rams are running circles around Shanahan and the 49ers.
Rams got a 10-7 Bengals team that had no business being in the SB.
Offense totally dependent on their QB and passing game with a piss poor OL and mediocre running game with a mid level defense. Nowhere near the same level of opponent as we've had to face and they really only made it after Tartt's drop and our inability to convert on 2nd and 1.
None of those had to do with Shanahan but I know these guys don't care.
Oh get out. Shanahan had three chances in the third quarter, one on kansas citys territory, and he went three and out. He had a chance to put the game away with a 2nd and 5 with 2:45 left and threw it twice. The defense did its job. Once kyle kicked the field goal in ot it was over. Kyle blew it again. You keep ignoring this. The fact thay youre blaming the defense tells me all i need to know about your bias.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Waiting to see the response
There is literally one thing they have over the 49ers. The Stafford trade. That's it.
In order to make that trade, not only did they find themselves in a perfect situation with one of their former personnel guys taking over the GM job with the Lions but the fact that he loved Jared Goff and they were able to leverage him as part of the trade.
They don't win the SB without Stafford. In fact without him McVay may be retired right now and Snead likely out of a job.
But these guys will go through gold medal worthy olympic level mental gymnastics to pretend Stafford would've easily been a 49er if Shanahan simply didn't go out to dinner that night.
3 times the 49ers had a 3 point lead in that 2023 SB in the 4th quarter or OT. The defense failed to stop them to give Shanahan and the 49ers a SB that season.
Rams got a gift of a call to help their offense and then saw Aaron Donald stop the Bengals with a 3 point lead to win it. Now suddenly McVay and the Rams are running circles around Shanahan and the 49ers.
Rams got a 10-7 Bengals team that had no business being in the SB.
Offense totally dependent on their QB and passing game with a piss poor OL and mediocre running game with a mid level defense. Nowhere near the same level of opponent as we've had to face and they really only made it after Tartt's drop and our inability to convert on 2nd and 1.
None of those had to do with Shanahan but I know these guys don't care.
Oh get out. Shanahan had three chances in the third quarter, one on kansas citys territory, and he went three and out. He had a chance to put the game away with a 2nd and 5 with 2:45 left and threw it twice. The defense did its job. Once kyle kicked the field goal in ot it was over. Kyle blew it again. You keep ignoring this. The fact thay youre blaming the defense tells me all i need to know about your bias.
It's a complementary game. The defense, like the offense, must do its part, In your example, the defense failed. They had their chance. The offense put points on the board but the defense did not do what they are paid to do.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
As far as I'm concerned if you hold mahommes to 19 points in regulation AND created two turnovers, one of which was in kcs territory, the defense did its job. Especially since our coach is supposedly an offensive genius.
Originally posted by 49ers9797:
If you are a great offensive HC, you win a SB in regulation when your defense only gives up 12 legit points. Even 19 points is a great job.
Sorry, but that offense should have been able to score more than 19 points. If McVay or Belichick are on the 49ers sideline, that game is over in the 3rd quarter.
Originally posted by 49ers9797:
If you are a great offensive HC, you win a SB in regulation when your defense only gives up 12 legit points. Even 19 points is a great job.
Sorry, but that offense should have been able to score more than 19 points. If McVay or Belichick are on the 49ers sideline, that game is over in the 3rd quarter.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
As far as I'm concerned if you hold mahommes to 19 points in regulation (12 if you discount that td resulting from the punt muff) AND created two turnovers, one of which was in kcs territory, the defense did its job. Especially since our coach is supposedly an offensive genius.
