Who's lived up to there big contract?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news krizay but you don't have a say in what the team does. And you most certainly don't pay any of the players.

Each signing they had including Deebo made sense at the time. You don't let a guy who pretty much put the team on his back during those playoffs go out the door for pennies on the dollar.

We can argue about Aiyuk should've been traded but the reality is the injury is a curve ball that will prevent us from really evaluating that move. Obviously looks like a mistake now but it's also been much tougher for the offense ever since Aiyuk was injured. No real presence to concern the defense down the field.

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lol...well played.

Originally posted by irief:
I think you're over analyzing to fit your narrative, rather than seeing the obvious. Recent Brock Purdy performance has not been anywhere near elite. Seems to be consensus around the league. Hope he turns it around, but seems mediocre at best these days.

Tough to ignore the simple stats. Hence his ranking in this year's NFL top 100.

He's the 8th highest paid QB in the league and when the next crop of good QBs resign he won't even be top 10. Not sure if you know how much money the NFL pays it's good QBs.

And tell us what you would have done if you didn't sign him. Who'd bne our QB?
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Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by irief:
I can dig it krizay, but see Bosa as good not great. Never pay great money for good.
Tearing an ACL during a standard pass rush while you're upright shows he's injury prone, and no doubt he has significant injury history.

Brock's recent stats:

2024 Season Stats:

• Touchdowns: 20
• Interceptions: 12
• Passer Rating: 96.1

2025 Season Stats:

• Touchdowns: 2
• Interceptions: 2
• Passer Rating: 92

Not exactly elite and heading in the wrong direction. Doubt other teams would line up to trade for him on his current deal.

That's the problem...you're just looking at simple stats like those for QBs and sacks for Bosa.

Look at all the metrics in regards to Purdy's play against a very tough opponent.

Here is another one...does this scream wrong direction?

how quarterbacks have performed on dropbacks (pass attempts, sacks, scrambles) in expected pass situations this season pic.twitter.com/qCZ33bTYvL

— Tej Seth (@tejfbanalytics) September 26, 2025

Seattle defense has faced 4 QBs so far Purdy, Aaron Rodgers, Rattler and Murray.

PFF isn't the ultimate say on how players did but Purdy is easily the highest grade out of the 4 of them and arguably played with the worst situation out of all 4 guys.

Simply put there is no rational reason to claim he's trending in the wrong direction.

I think you're over analyzing to fit your narrative, rather than seeing the obvious. Recent Brock Purdy performance has not been anywhere near elite. Seems to be consensus around the league. Hope he turns it around, but seems mediocre at best these days.

Tough to ignore the simple stats. Hence his ranking in this year's NFL top 100.

Are you being for real right now? First of all I couldn't care less about NFL top 100 rankings. Second he got paid this offseason. He has just 1 game under the new contract and it's the Seattle game which I've provided several metrics from and a reminder who he played with(or didn't play with)

You made this thread to evaluate players after their big contracts. If you're bringing up Purdy's year last season(which btw wasn't anywhere that terrible given what was happening with the team) then by that account you have to include Deebo's 2021 season as part of your evaluation on his bad deal, etc...

You made the thread and then decided to change the rationale on Purdy for some reason then want to pretend that I'm over analyzing to fit my narrative?

The narrative is simple - Purdy has 1 game played on his new deal vs a top 5 NFL defense at their house, a stadium which is very difficult to play at. In that game he was missing 4 of the top 6 WRs on our roster if everyone was healthy. George Kittle a key cog to our offense was out of the game by middle of the first quarter or so. His game winning drive was without Kittle, Jennings, Aiyuk, Cowing, Watkins and Kendrick Bourne wasn't signed yet.

So while 1 game is too early to say whether the deal was good or not...1 game is enough to say that doubtful, or going in the wrong direction is a terrible take on it so far.

Should have traded Brandon when he went all TMZ, that's the one where it's like damn, should have let him kick his shorts all the way to Pittsburgh or CLE.

They keep popping up on my twitter feed so i'm gonna keep posting them...regarding Purdy going in the wrong direction

Looking at the 49ers big deals, I'd say for sure the following have lived up to their deals

George Kittle (Been the 49ers most productive offensive weapon since his first extension)

Fred Warner (49ers best defensive player production wise, & a team leader, playing through injuries too)

Deommodore Lenoir (I know it's 1yr in, but people disrespect him too much, he looks like a legit #1 CB IMO anyway)

Those who haven't:

Deebo Samuel (Bad contract, should have traded him in 2022 when he wanted out first time)

Too Early IMO:

Brock Purdy (Obviously just year 1, really year 0 since his extension doesn't kick in until 2026)

Nick Bosa (Only 2yrs into his big extension, it sucks he tore his ACL, but it's too early IMO)

Brandon Aiyuk (Only 1yr into his new deal, too early to say if he has or hasn't)

Colton McKivitz (Too early, was it an overpay? No, since he was gonna get at least $15M-$20M a yr on open market, I mean if Jaylon Moore got $15M a yr then McKivitz should have gotten more, thankfully he took less)

Trent Williams (I want to put him in the lived up to the deals, but he got his 2nd one from us last year, need to be sure he plays through 2026)

CMC (Only because this is yr 1 of the new extension through 2027)

Originally posted by Montana:
Should have traded Brandon when he went all TMZ, that's the one where it's like damn, should have let him kick his shorts all the way to Pittsburgh or CLE.

He wasn't gonna be dealt to CLE, any deal was going to have to have an extension, he didn't want either CLE or NE, he vetoed them, he wanted either PIT, WAS or SF, idk what we were offered from PIT, I'm willing to give him another year to see how he does, it doesn't look great or good, but too early IMO to say yes or no.

Brock Purdy is undefeated ever since getting paid

Originally posted by genus49:
Are you being for real right now? First of all I couldn't care less about NFL top 100 rankings. Second he got paid this offseason. He has just 1 game under the new contract and it's the Seattle game which I've provided several metrics from and a reminder who he played with(or didn't play with)

You made this thread to evaluate players after their big contracts. If you're bringing up Purdy's year last season(which btw wasn't anywhere that terrible given what was happening with the team) then by that account you have to include Deebo's 2021 season as part of your evaluation on his bad deal, etc...

You made the thread and then decided to change the rationale on Purdy for some reason then want to pretend that I'm over analyzing to fit my narrative?

The narrative is simple - Purdy has 1 game played on his new deal vs a top 5 NFL defense at their house, a stadium which is very difficult to play at. In that game he was missing 4 of the top 6 WRs on our roster if everyone was healthy. George Kittle a key cog to our offense was out of the game by middle of the first quarter or so. His game winning drive was without Kittle, Jennings, Aiyuk, Cowing, Watkins and Kendrick Bourne wasn't signed yet.

So while 1 game is too early to say whether the deal was good or not...1 game is enough to say that doubtful, or going in the wrong direction is a terrible take on it so far.

Fair point on bringing up Purdy's year before he signed, but it helps understand his trajectory. Mediocre. NFL top 100 is only the opinion of NFL players, coaches and executives, but I guess they have no credibility compared to WZ posters. 🙂

Originally posted by irief:
Fair point on bringing up Purdy's year before he signed, but it helps understand his trajectory. Mediocre. NFL top 100 is only the opinion of NFL players, coaches and executives, but I guess they have no credibility compared to WZ posters. 🙂

He also used the pro bowl in defense of Bosa.

I mean not sure either is a great measurement

Brock and that's it

Kittle - yes no brainer
Warner - yes no brainer

CMC - extension wasnt very smart especially when he was hurt at signing. He has lost a step but still has value. Its a push.

TW - was domminate but that no longer is the case. He has gone off a cliff since 2023. The extension was stupid by the 49ers and manupulative by TW.

Purdy - never will. He is not elite and thats the expectation. He needs high skill around him. Jones looks just as good at this point.

Deebo - not even close. Signed and decided he didnt care anymore.

BA - overpaid from the start and due to his antics has put even more pressure on himself to succeed. His injury has created opportunity for Pearsall, Robinson some rookies. He may be expendable. So no.

Lenoir - solid and goes about his business. Refreshing. See what happens but so far yes.

Bosa - over rated in my opinion. Webzoners like to live in an alternative world where Bosa dominates regularly but that just does hapoen. He was paid as the highest non QB contract at the time. He gets paid that money to make impactful plays in big moments and he doesnt make enough of them. All these secondary analytics are meaningless when we are talking about elite play.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Kittle - yes no brainer
Warner - yes no brainer

CMC - extension wasnt very smart especially when he was hurt at signing. He has lost a step but still has value. Its a push.

TW - was domminate but that no longer is the case. He has gone off a cliff since 2023. The extension was stupid by the 49ers and manupulative by TW.

Purdy - never will. He is not elite and thats the expectation. He needs high skill around him. Jones looks just as good at this point.

Deebo - not even close. Signed and decided he didnt care anymore.

BA - overpaid from the start and due to his antics has put even more pressure on himself to succeed. His injury has created opportunity for Pearsall, Robinson some rookies. He may be expendable. So no.

Lenoir - solid and goes about his business. Refreshing. See what happens but so far yes.

Bosa - over rated in my opinion. Webzoners like to live in an alternative world where Bosa dominates regularly but that just does hapoen. He was paid as the highest non QB contract at the time. He gets paid that money to make impactful plays in big moments and he doesnt make enough of them. All these secondary analytics are meaningless when we are talking about elite play.

Great point on Bosa. He just hasn't been the game wrecker TJ is.

I would say Jimmy G, Deebo, and Hargrave all underperformed their contract but that's about it.
Suppose you can say missing games due to injuries affects their impact/worth especially when they have a history of it but when they are winning OPOY and DPOY or multiple all pros you can't blame the front office.
One I'm keeping an eye on is Ayuik, his attitude has been questionable

Originally posted by irief:
Great point on Bosa. He just hasn't been the game wrecker TJ is.

TJ hasn't been a game wrecker in the playoffs, Complete non factor.

Basically you can tell the sports radio fans vs the sport metric fans by how they talk in these threads. Statistics instead of film.

If you think Mac has been the equivalent of Brock you are lost in the wilderness.