49ers select Nick Martin-LB-Oklahoma State with the 75th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
That's weird. Krueger was very high on Nick Martin both before the draft and after the pick. He was also high on the WR from Ole Miss before and after the draft. He didn't love the QB pick or the punt returner. Not so high on Collins or Williams but gets the pics.

When it comes to 7th round picks, it's just the dice up in the air. I fancy Colby's chances but I accept that it's a total lottery. I have to believe that something in the laws of chance are going to work against our drafting Purdy and Rourke with 7th rounders!

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Wasn't Krueger hating on this pick when it was made?

Pretty sure that dude hated every single pick except CJ West.

It's funny when I hear him critique players and refer to their PFF grade or stats as the basis for his evals. I'm thinking bro, didn't you say you were a scout? f**k the stats and the grades, and watch the f**king tape.

Larry is about as fake as it gets. I stopped following that dude a while ago. His takes make me feel dumber after listening to them

Originally posted by Murphys1:
Field Yates from ESPN predicts him to be the 5th most impactful rookie on defense...then says he weighs 197 pounds.

he clearly misspoke about the weight

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
And yet somehow we have had success overall, as well as one of the best rosters in the NFL for the past six or seven years, it's almost like the front office knows what they are actually doing better than us guys on the forums...odd, isn't it?

I mean can you name me the success stories we've had as far as legit reaches go? Especially on day 2…it's a short list.

Success as in going deep into the playoffs most years when the roster is healthy. That means you are drafting enough good players to be one of the best teams.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Success as in going deep into the playoffs most years when the roster is healthy. That means you are drafting enough good players to be one of the best teams.

I'm talking about players, not the team overall. We can talk about the players that were properly valued that have played well….how about the players that were overall considered reaches each draft? Who outplayed their "reach" value?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm talking about players, not the team overall. We can talk about the players that were properly valued that have played well….how about the players that were overall considered reaches each draft? Who outplayed their "reach" value?

None that I can think of off hand. All of the players that I personally thought were major reaches didn't pan out. I guess Mitch worked out since he got another contract but I'll never say a punter was a "good pick or not a reach" anytime before round 7 lol.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm talking about players, not the team overall. We can talk about the players that were properly valued that have played well….how about the players that were overall considered reaches each draft? Who outplayed their "reach" value?

None that I can think of off hand. All of the players that I personally thought were major reaches didn't pan out. I guess Mitch worked out since he got another contract but I'll never say a punter was a "good pick or not a reach" anytime before round 7 lol.

I saw in shift in draft philosophy last year the appears to have leaked into this years draft. They appear to value experience.

Williams: 36 games
Collins: 34 games
Martin: 34 games
Stout: 26 games
West: 36 games
Watkins: 32 games
James: 25 games
Sigle: 30 games
Rourke: 28 games
Colby: 50 games!

That's a lot of college experience amongst the draft picks. It worked last year and let us hope it works again!

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
I saw in shift in draft philosophy last year the appears to have leaked into this years draft. They appear to value experience.

Williams: 36 games
Collins: 34 games
Martin: 34 games
Stout: 26 games
West: 36 games
Watkins: 32 games
James: 25 games
Sigle: 30 games
Rourke: 28 games
Colby: 50 games!

That's a lot of college experience amongst the draft picks. It worked last year and let us hope it works again!

Where are you getting these numbers from? Just at a glance West, Stout, and Rourke should be higher.

With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

He's 5"11 at 221 lbs. that's pretty big for his height.
Warner is 6'3 at 229 lbs.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

The NFL is going that way. Lots of 220 lbs. - 230 lbs. LB's now. The game is more spread out now like Steve Young always says. More spacing. The ability to run and track things down and get outside and catch guys from behind is more important. Of course even coverage too like a RB. The day of the 250 lb. LB is pretty much over in the NFL. Sure you can find some. But smaller guys who can run are more valued now. I don't think he needs to change a thing. Although I would be a little concerned about running right directly at him. How will he hold up at the point of attack? I think he has all the other stuff.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

He's 5"11 at 221 lbs. that's pretty big for his height.
Warner is 6'3 at 229 lbs.

Yeah, for 5'11", I guess so. Plus, he's just entering the league at age 22...with the team's strength & conditioning coaches, he'll add more weight & strength.

For some reason, thought Warner was heavier than that - thought he was closer to 235-240.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

He doesn't need to put on any weight. There are plenty of great LBs that play at that weight and have been for almost a decade now.

Film study, play recognition, trusting eyes and help from DL is how he'll thrive. He's got everything else he needs to succeed.

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Warner is 6'3 at 229 lbs.

Fred Warner was 237 lbs at the combine.

Originally posted by scooterhd:

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:
I saw in shift in draft philosophy last year the appears to have leaked into this years draft. They appear to value experience.

Williams: 36 games
Collins: 34 games
Martin: 34 games
Stout: 26 games
West: 36 games
Watkins: 32 games
James: 25 games
Sigle: 30 games
Rourke: 28 games
Colby: 50 games!

That's a lot of college experience amongst the draft picks. It worked last year and let us hope it works again!

Where are you getting these numbers from? Just at a glance West, Stout, and Rourke should be higher.

AI. Referenced the Niners webpage.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
With Greenlaw gone, really hoping Martin comes in and can make an immediate impact playing with Warner and perhaps Winters. Didn't see Martin play at Oklahoma State but like what I've read about him and in seeing some of his highlights. Seems like he's a good tackler and track down guys going sideline to sideline. Can also cover guys with his speed and athleticism. Am curious about his weight, 221 lbs, and if he can put on some more weight + strength to deal with blocks and just help with the every-game pounding as an NFL LB.

He doesn't need to put on any weight. There are plenty of great LBs that play at that weight and have been for almost a decade now.

Film study, play recognition, trusting eyes and help from DL is how he'll thrive. He's got everything else he needs to succeed.

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Warner is 6'3 at 229 lbs.

Fred Warner was 237 lbs at the combine.

Yes regarding film study, play recognition, having help from the DL in front of him, etc.

I hope you're right about not needing to put on any weight. Every player is different playing at certain weights and what works best for that player. Regardless, he'll probably put on a little anyway with added muscle as time goes by as he's only 22. Just for some reason my first thought was 221 was kind of light for an NFL LB but in looking closer a lot of the modern-day NFL LBs are in the 220 - 230 lb range.