49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
I saw Larry Krueger knocking Mykel and pumping Shemar Stewart. What a joke.

Tell me more about Spencer Waege, Corey Kiner, Austen Pleasants etc.

Tape wasnt all that great. and Im as big a Mykel fan as any. Id like a little bit more motor and energy actually.

With that said he logged more snaps than any other rookie DL we've had out there, and he had to play both edge and dt after basically not playing the entire camp or preseason. For most part kept his gap integrity if we're looking for silver lining. I wanted to say he kept contain, but that Darnold pass across the body, think that was on him not containing.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Cashius Howell had more sacks on one drive than Shemar Stewart had in all of 2024

— Ranger222 (@Ranger222) September 6, 2025

As many as his 23 and 24 combined on 3 consecutive plays.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Silky:
People make fun of that play, but I thought it was a smart move. Jayden would have probably juked him if he ran full speed and try to sack him. He got big and put his hands up and contained him. The result was a throw out of the back of the endzone

It was a free rush lol

I know and how many times do we see a skinny fast QB easily evade it. I'd rather my defender put that stress on him. I think Daniels would have probably welcomed him coming full speed ahead. I know it sounds dumb but I've seen prime Russell Wilson easily make defenders miss in that exact situation

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Silky:
People make fun of that play, but I thought it was a smart move. Jayden would have probably juked him if he ran full speed and try to sack him. He got big and put his hands up and contained him. The result was a throw out of the back of the endzone

They should make fun of it. If you're scared you will be juked by a running QB I guess you should never try to sack a running QB for fear of being juked

I get it, but there should also be nuance to who you're rushing. You all act like you've never seen a free rusher miss. I am, however, done with this because I realize it's dumb and about a Giants player

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Some of the grading system is not fully trusted. It's not all just stats. I mean watch the game and you can see Brendel is bad. I don't htink Mykel Williams is terrible. In fact some of the highlights showed him setting the edge with a lot of power and violence. Plus he occupied blockers. Didn't make splash plays. But probably not as bad as his grade. The grades are not to fully be trusted. What is the player doing according to scheme. What is their job. That comes into play. Watch the game. What does that tell you. It's not all some subjective grading system where this or that is weighted to that level.

That is one thing that PFF doesn't know about the trench evaluations - responsibility on the play.

It's easy to grade wins vs OLmen. Guy beats his blocker - win grade wise.

But some teams may ask for guys to take on blockers, plug up gaps, keep contain and stuff that's not as sexy or easy to identify as a guy actually doing what he's coached to do.

Hassan Reddick had a pretty good grade in 2023 by their metrics. Turns out he was freelancing constantly and the Eagles got rid of him after a bad season for their standards.

Either way I think week 1 grades won't define the guy. I expect consistent growth from the young man.

Say what you want about your exceptions for a top 10-ish draft pick...but the dude has a super power when it comes to playing in space.

how many years have we seen selfish play after selfish play after selfish play....guys go-in to get their stats even if that means they run themselves out of the play. At least Williams is not that.

If you think about it, the hallmark of the Salah years was always swarming defense, rally to the ball. That makes Williams' best trait (as I see it) even more valuable. You. have a guy who does not NEED to show up on stat sheet, and plays extremely well in space...he controls the edge and waits for backup.

Even last year how many times did we see Bosa as great as he is...loose contain going for a tackle? How many times did he run himself out of the play. I love Bosa and I am sure Bosa felt like if he didn't do it...it might not get done...but still. Being able to plant your flag and not have the offense move you to where they want to move you is a hell of a super power.

Reminds me a little bit of Russel Maryland out of Miami. Both dudes have really long arms both guys around 270...of course Maryland was a pure DT...but still...they both had very unselfish games and did a ton of Dirty work.

Would I have liked Dee Ford 2.0? Hell yeah.....but I really like the potential and the floor we got in Williams too.. he seems custom made for this defense.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Say what you want about your exceptions for a top 10-ish draft pick...but the dude has a super power when it comes to playing in space.

how many years have we seen selfish play after selfish play after selfish play....guys go-in to get their stats even if that means they run themselves out of the play. At least Williams is not that.

If you think about it, the hallmark of the Salah years was always swarming defense, rally to the ball. That makes Williams' best trait (as I see it) even more valuable. You. have a guy who does not NEED to show up on stat sheet, and plays extremely well in space...he controls the edge and waits for backup.

Even last year how many times did we see Bosa as great as he is...loose contain going for a tackle? How many times did he run himself out of the play. I love Bosa and I am sure Bosa felt like if he didn't do it...it might not get done...but still. Being able to plant your flag and not have the offense move you to where they want to move you is a hell of a super power.

Reminds me a little bit of Russel Maryland out of Miami. Both dudes have really long arms both guys around 270...of course Maryland was a pure DT...but still...they both had very unselfish games and did a ton of Dirty work.

Would I have liked Dee Ford 2.0? Hell yeah.....but I really like the potential and the floor we got in Williams too.. he seems custom made for this defense.

Honestly I see his game and how he will be used similarly to how Den uses Franklin-Myers and Zach Allen. Those guys make that DL go. Like Hero said he thinks he's bigger than 260 right now. I can see him being around 280ish and playing up and down that DL when he's in his prime.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Some of the grading system is not fully trusted. It's not all just stats. I mean watch the game and you can see Brendel is bad. I don't htink Mykel Williams is terrible. In fact some of the highlights showed him setting the edge with a lot of power and violence. Plus he occupied blockers. Didn't make splash plays. But probably not as bad as his grade. The grades are not to fully be trusted. What is the player doing according to scheme. What is their job. That comes into play. Watch the game. What does that tell you. It's not all some subjective grading system where this or that is weighted to that level.

That is one thing that PFF doesn't know about the trench evaluations - responsibility on the play.

It's easy to grade wins vs OLmen. Guy beats his blocker - win grade wise.

But some teams may ask for guys to take on blockers, plug up gaps, keep contain and stuff that's not as sexy or easy to identify as a guy actually doing what he's coached to do.

Hassan Reddick had a pretty good grade in 2023 by their metrics. Turns out he was freelancing constantly and the Eagles got rid of him after a bad season for their standards.

Either way I think week 1 grades won't define the guy. I expect consistent growth from the young man.

Yeah if you don't know the scheme or what the guy is called to do out there it's hard to say he's good or bad. He could be called upon to occupy blockers and plug up gaps. Our run defense seems dramatically better. So I'm glad for that. He sets the edge with a lot of force and violence. I like some of what I see from him. Just wish he would develop some more pass rush moves. His potential is enormous. He's just not a pure pass rusher yet. May never be that but I'd like to see him get better. He's already good at run stopping and we needed that. We were so bad at that last year.

HIs tasks in the early games is now known: set the edge on run plays, on passing downs move inside and occupy as many OL in pass pro as possible to free up Bosa and Huff for one on ones.... I thought he did his job well.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Say what you want about your exceptions for a top 10-ish draft pick...but the dude has a super power when it comes to playing in space.

how many years have we seen selfish play after selfish play after selfish play....guys go-in to get their stats even if that means they run themselves out of the play. At least Williams is not that.

If you think about it, the hallmark of the Salah years was always swarming defense, rally to the ball. That makes Williams' best trait (as I see it) even more valuable. You. have a guy who does not NEED to show up on stat sheet, and plays extremely well in space...he controls the edge and waits for backup.

Even last year how many times did we see Bosa as great as he is...loose contain going for a tackle? How many times did he run himself out of the play. I love Bosa and I am sure Bosa felt like if he didn't do it...it might not get done...but still. Being able to plant your flag and not have the offense move you to where they want to move you is a hell of a super power.

Reminds me a little bit of Russel Maryland out of Miami. Both dudes have really long arms both guys around 270...of course Maryland was a pure DT...but still...they both had very unselfish games and did a ton of Dirty work.

Would I have liked Dee Ford 2.0? Hell yeah.....but I really like the potential and the floor we got in Williams too.. he seems custom made for this defense.

So Justin Smith?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Some of the grading system is not fully trusted. It's not all just stats. I mean watch the game and you can see Brendel is bad. I don't htink Mykel Williams is terrible. In fact some of the highlights showed him setting the edge with a lot of power and violence. Plus he occupied blockers. Didn't make splash plays. But probably not as bad as his grade. The grades are not to fully be trusted. What is the player doing according to scheme. What is their job. That comes into play. Watch the game. What does that tell you. It's not all some subjective grading system where this or that is weighted to that level.

That is one thing that PFF doesn't know about the trench evaluations - responsibility on the play.

It's easy to grade wins vs OLmen. Guy beats his blocker - win grade wise.

But some teams may ask for guys to take on blockers, plug up gaps, keep contain and stuff that's not as sexy or easy to identify as a guy actually doing what he's coached to do.

Hassan Reddick had a pretty good grade in 2023 by their metrics. Turns out he was freelancing constantly and the Eagles got rid of him after a bad season for their standards.

Either way I think week 1 grades won't define the guy. I expect consistent growth from the young man.

Yeah if you don't know the scheme or what the guy is called to do out there it's hard to say he's good or bad. He could be called upon to occupy blockers and plug up gaps. Our run defense seems dramatically better. So I'm glad for that. He sets the edge with a lot of force and violence. I like some of what I see from him. Just wish he would develop some more pass rush moves. His potential is enormous. He's just not a pure pass rusher yet. May never be that but I'd like to see him get better. He's already good at run stopping and we needed that. We were so bad at that last year.

I remember people being critical of Keena Turner back in the day because he wasn't "doing something" against some teams ... but he was doing exactly what was his job when he was a spy on QBs like Randall Cunningham.

The 49ers were one of the best teams against Barry Sanders because they didn't have players stat hunting but because they were maintaining their responsibilities. It looks boring but it wins games.

Much like internet companies don't publish their algorithms, teams don't publicize what they expect players to be doing in plays.

Like genus said ... I just want to see progress, and I think we will across the board.

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Robert Saleh on Mykel Williams:

"On the 40 yard play at the end of the game, he's about to end it and the center for Seattle makes an unbelievable play to save it."

Saleh on where Mykel will play on the line:

"He's going to make his living being a run defender on first and… pic.twitter.com/VholuVuVYE

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) September 11, 2025

This is the play he's referring to. Dee Winters destroys the guard lol.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

pic.twitter.com/y40GcwSwLA

— jake (@SourdoughSpam) September 11, 2025

This is the play he's referring to. Dee Winters destroys the guard lol.

I remember people saying the little LBs would be dominated by the guards :)