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  • 9moon
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Seems to me this whole situation has worked out pretty well. Jones skill set seems to fit the scheme pretty well and we have him in a two-year deal. We have Rourke waiting in the wings, who seems to have similar skill set. If it turns out he can bring the same ability to the NFL that he showed at Indiana, then he becomes a solid, low-priced back-up for the next four years and Jones becomes trade bait. Win-win I'd say.

You do have to love how guys like Cowherd and Wright are now falling all over themselves saying, see you can get a $7 million dollar QB to do this job and didn't have to pay Brock $50 million. I think it was Cowherd who said, that if they had drafted Jones instead of Lance, they'd have a Super Bowl by now. Maybe, but if that was the case than Jones would have become the $50 million a year QB and Brock would be the best back-up in the league, or he may have beaten Jones out as well. $50 million seems to be what decent QBs get paid these days, not sure why, they keep harping on that except for that fact that Brock isn't the biggest QB in the league or have the best arm and was the last pick of the draft. If he was four inches taller and had been a 3rd rounder, with his resume since he came into the league, I doubt anyone would be saying he wasn't worth the money.

I looooove all the talking heads completely exposing themselves this week with this absurd take.

It proves that they don't watch the games. At all. Period. You and I watch the games more than they do and could do a better job than them, honestly!

Like seriously. All I did was actually WATCH our Week 1 game against Seattle and our Week 2 game against New Orleans, and it was all the evidence I needed to know that Mac is good, but he can't make all the throws that Purdy can. You honestly could watch the HIGHLIGHTS and figure this out. Talking heads who get paid millions to talk sports are so lazy these days

Yea we've seen Matt Flynn play well in place of Rodgers, Jimmy G and Matt Cassel play well in place of Brady, Huntley play well as Lamar's backup, we've seen Browning play well for Burrow and Rush play well for Dak

Using their logic none of those starters are worth paying

The biggest difference between most backups and NFL starting QBs is consistency and resilience.

Good QBs don't get scared after being pressured all day like brock was in week 1 and fold and just get sacked at the end of games when things get tough.

Additionally they are more consistent overall week to week.

Any backup or third string QB can look good when the other team is melting down the defense is giving points and turnovers to the offense. It's easy for them to manage the game up 3 scores.

It's why you pay brock 50 million. Not because he had a great game in week 1 but he never got rattled and imploded and found a chance for the team to win.

If the games tight and Mac is playing vs the cards I fully expect the cards to win and Mac to either lose the game off sacks, interceptions, or fumbles. That's what happens to backups. They melt when pressured all day.

Air Mac 10 may just be the version of Nick Foles... Heck, we can be happy with that.. One who can play and put up nice numbers when needed, but shows why he a BACK UP ONLY when he has to play the entire season.

Air Mac Attack for MVP !!!
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Originally posted by genus49:
Next time Grant Cohn wants to troll about Mac being just as good as Purdy he should look at this


or this


...or numerous other charts/metrics that show Purdy playing better vs a much tougher defense.

Wow, people are awfully defensive.. purdy is our qb1. He got paid. He will start when healthy. But.. just based on 1 game we have to admit there was no appreciable drop in qb play. Mac played well. He was accurate, he found open receivers and he protected the ball well. The strip sack was the exception. Almost interceptions don't show up on the stat sheets.. Brock has a ton of them. We won't always be as lucky…. Last week Brock got bailed out by our third string te. That should have been an int. I am not a Mac fan. I am a purdy fan but we have to give Mac the credit he is due. Maybe this will spark purdy to play a bit smarter.

Awfully defensive or simply reminding people why Brock is QB1? No reason to put your head in the sand and pretend that there wasn't a narrative AFTER the game that Mac Jones is just as good as Purdy. That leads everyone to the lazy "Shanahan can make anyone good" rationale.

Fact is Purdy played a much tougher defense/team and had to do so losing one of the key pieces of our offense and huge part of the game plan for that week in George Kittle and didn't even have Jennings on the field for the game winning TD drive. Nor did he have Kendrick Bourne out there.

You literally claimed almost interceptions don't show up on the stat sheet and in the same post manage to bring up Purdy's "should've been an int"

I'm not going to knock Mac Jones. He played well and made some big throws and we won. However we don't need to pretend there wasn't plenty of bad plays on that field including the terrible fumble. Purdy's pocket presence is miles better than Jones.

Those charts basically show Purdy had the tougher matchup and played better overall. Nothing defensive to acknowledge that if some want to make stupid narratives how Purdy shouldn't have been paid.

Horrible fumble is a bit harsh. Strip sacks happen especially with missed blocking assignments and an inconsistent OL. Brock threw two interceptions last week and one of them was truly horrible. He has to protect the ball better and if he is not more careful with the scramble drill we could be seeing a lot more of Jones this year. Availability is becoming an issue with him. We need him to Play safer and smarter. The noise about paying him is just noise. He is qb1 and that ain't changing but he is capable of better performances than he put on last week So again there was no real drop off between week 1 Brock and week 2 Jones. We all know Brock is capable of much more. He just needs to show us. If he doesn't then the critics will most certainly say we overpaid for a system qb and that's the last thing anyone wants to hear.
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Horrible fumble is a bit harsh. Strip sacks happen especially with missed blocking assignments and an inconsistent OL. Brock threw two interceptions last week and one of them was truly horrible. He has to protect the ball better and if he is not more careful with the scramble drill we could be seeing a lot more of Jones this year. Availability is becoming an issue with him. We need him to Play safer and smarter. The noise about paying him is just noise. He is qb1 and that ain't changing but he is capable of better performances than he put on last week So again there was no real drop off between week 1 Brock and week 2 Jones. We all know Brock is capable of much more. He just needs to show us. If he doesn't then the critics will most certainly say we overpaid for a system qb and that's the last thing anyone wants to hear.

McKivitz didn't miss his block. He put the defender on the ground. That's a win EVERY time. Mac has to move up in the pocket or get the ball out. Defender pulled McKivitz down with him and used him to pop back up but that's not a fumble you can take as a QB. Terrible.

Seattle defense is a hell of a lot better than the Saints and Purdy felt he needed to play hero ball to get it done(he did, though I wish he wouldn't unless it's do or die situations)

Regardless there is nothing wrong reminding folks that Purdy played as well as he did in tougher circumstances vs a tougher opponent. Some people forget stuff like that too easily cuz they have their biases in place.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Horrible fumble is a bit harsh. Strip sacks happen especially with missed blocking assignments and an inconsistent OL. Brock threw two interceptions last week and one of them was truly horrible. He has to protect the ball better and if he is not more careful with the scramble drill we could be seeing a lot more of Jones this year. Availability is becoming an issue with him. We need him to Play safer and smarter. The noise about paying him is just noise. He is qb1 and that ain't changing but he is capable of better performances than he put on last week So again there was no real drop off between week 1 Brock and week 2 Jones. We all know Brock is capable of much more. He just needs to show us. If he doesn't then the critics will most certainly say we overpaid for a system qb and that's the last thing anyone wants to hear.

McKivitz didn't miss his block. He put the defender on the ground. That's a win EVERY time. Mac has to move up in the pocket or get the ball out. Defender pulled McKivitz down with him and used him to pop back up but that's not a fumble you can take as a QB. Terrible.

Seattle defense is a hell of a lot better than the Saints and Purdy felt he needed to play hero ball to get it done(he did, though I wish he wouldn't unless it's do or die situations)

Regardless there is nothing wrong reminding folks that Purdy played as well as he did in tougher circumstances vs a tougher opponent. Some people forget stuff like that too easily cuz they have their biases in place.

It's also ok to give Mac his props and say Brock can do better than last week. And when you step back and really look at the team performance, the defense was the difference. The offense needs to be much, much better if we want to win against above average teams.
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Its funny how some fans are so insecure. They should be happy we have a good backup. But instead they are insecure for brock lol
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Its funny how some fans are so insecure. They should be happy we have a good backup. But instead they are insecure for brock lol

Only the uninitiated can't see this
Curious as to how far we can ride with Mac on his progression. If he can do more anticipation throws and better timing, he could be very good.
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Originally posted by q0c0p:
Its funny how some fans are so insecure. They should be happy we have a good backup. But instead they are insecure for brock lol

100%
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Curious as to how far we can ride with Mac on his progression. If he can do more anticipation throws and better timing, he could be very good.

Brock back at practice ... so may not be much longer.

Mac is a good backup, glad the 49ers have him. The line played MUCH better in week 2 than week 1, hopefully that continues and over the next few weeks the team actually gets healthy and Juice, Brock, George, Aiyuk, and Robinson all come back and they really put it all together.

I think, much more than QB play, the most concerning thing is the running game ... and it's not the running backs but the blocking that is the issue. And not just the line.

Top 11 performance.
Statistically better than Darnold so for right now it seems to be a correct decision to let Darnold go and resurrect M.Jones into a good backup role.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Horrible fumble is a bit harsh. Strip sacks happen especially with missed blocking assignments and an inconsistent OL. Brock threw two interceptions last week and one of them was truly horrible. He has to protect the ball better and if he is not more careful with the scramble drill we could be seeing a lot more of Jones this year. Availability is becoming an issue with him. We need him to Play safer and smarter. The noise about paying him is just noise. He is qb1 and that ain't changing but he is capable of better performances than he put on last week So again there was no real drop off between week 1 Brock and week 2 Jones. We all know Brock is capable of much more. He just needs to show us. If he doesn't then the critics will most certainly say we overpaid for a system qb and that's the last thing anyone wants to hear.

McKivitz didn't miss his block. He put the defender on the ground. That's a win EVERY time. Mac has to move up in the pocket or get the ball out. Defender pulled McKivitz down with him and used him to pop back up but that's not a fumble you can take as a QB. Terrible.

Seattle defense is a hell of a lot better than the Saints and Purdy felt he needed to play hero ball to get it done(he did, though I wish he wouldn't unless it's do or die situations)

Regardless there is nothing wrong reminding folks that Purdy played as well as he did in tougher circumstances vs a tougher opponent. Some people forget stuff like that too easily cuz they have their biases in place.

No one was open.
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
It's also ok to give Mac his props and say Brock can do better than last week. And when you step back and really look at the team performance, the defense was the difference. The offense needs to be much, much better if we want to win against above average teams.

I think the offense has been pretty good considering all the injuries. Right now they are 8th in the league in yards per game. 5th in the league in passing yards per game. Now the running game we need to improve on as the Niners are 22nd in the league. But the fact we are 5th in passing with our running game struggling abit and all our weapons missing such as Purdy(1 game), BA, Robinson, Kittle, and non Healthy Jennings is pretty encouraging. Not to mention Puni is not 100% and neither is Trent.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Horrible fumble is a bit harsh. Strip sacks happen especially with missed blocking assignments and an inconsistent OL. Brock threw two interceptions last week and one of them was truly horrible. He has to protect the ball better and if he is not more careful with the scramble drill we could be seeing a lot more of Jones this year. Availability is becoming an issue with him. We need him to Play safer and smarter. The noise about paying him is just noise. He is qb1 and that ain't changing but he is capable of better performances than he put on last week So again there was no real drop off between week 1 Brock and week 2 Jones. We all know Brock is capable of much more. He just needs to show us. If he doesn't then the critics will most certainly say we overpaid for a system qb and that's the last thing anyone wants to hear.

McKivitz didn't miss his block. He put the defender on the ground. That's a win EVERY time. Mac has to move up in the pocket or get the ball out. Defender pulled McKivitz down with him and used him to pop back up but that's not a fumble you can take as a QB. Terrible.

Seattle defense is a hell of a lot better than the Saints and Purdy felt he needed to play hero ball to get it done(he did, though I wish he wouldn't unless it's do or die situations)

Regardless there is nothing wrong reminding folks that Purdy played as well as he did in tougher circumstances vs a tougher opponent. Some people forget stuff like that too easily cuz they have their biases in place.

No one was open.

QBs are allowed to throw the ball away. Shanahan agreed. We can't have turnovers like that vs more dangerous teams. I'm sure Mac would also agree that's not a fumble he can take.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
It's also ok to give Mac his props and say Brock can do better than last week. And when you step back and really look at the team performance, the defense was the difference. The offense needs to be much, much better if we want to win against above average teams.

I think the offense has been pretty good considering all the injuries. Right now they are 8th in the league in yards per game. 5th in the league in passing yards per game. Now the running game we need to improve on as the Niners are 22nd in the league. But the fact we are 5th in passing with our running game struggling abit and all our weapons missing such as Purdy(1 game), BA, Robinson, Kittle, and non Healthy Jennings is pretty encouraging. Not to mention Puni is not 100% and neither is Trent.

Good point, the running game is our bread and butter.. it has to improve. Teams will continue to load the box until they get burned. Hopefully we get some receivers back soon.
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